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14-02-2008, 02:03 AM
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Spoiling the Massues
Iv been cheonging for the last 10+ years.
Im just sharing my 2c worth. A lot of guys may or may not agree with me. But id still like to stay my 2c worth. Honestly i dun think its fair to reward a masseue with $ 50 for HJ, $ 80 for BJ and $ 100 for FJ when they hardly spend less than 15 minutes on the special If you look for legal thai chicken its $50 for 20 minutes and that includes full service including 2 showers. So im perplexed as to why we pay extraordinary rates for the PRCs when we could have paid them much lower and stretched our dollar to cheong on a rainy day. IF you look at Sam Leongs write up you will note that he has said that working at a health centre is a fantastic job where returns or income are far superior to time spent on working. Look forward to hearing opinion of other bros. 
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#2
14-02-2008, 09:00 AM
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Re: Spoiling the Massues
I know wat u mean, but really u can't compare things this way though i admit sometimes i also tink this way but i guess everything has its "market price".
But its quite normal that PRCs are more expensive than say Thai or Indon. Just walk around GL and u will know. For PRC prices start from $60 to $100, for Indon can get as low as $30 or $40. Service wise though, it doesnt mean the $60, $80 or $100 PRC is always better than the $30/$40 Thai/Indon. In fact i often encounter the reverse. I will also point out that there is a famous Queen in Petain with the most mind blowing service plus good looks for just $50. But as I said can't really compare this way. For TN/HC, normally is PRC, Malaysian or even local so definitely won't be as cheap as Thai or Indon. And apparently, they get little or even zero from "entrance fee" which is for the boss to pay rent/utilities, etc. So they only make from the specials. HC/TN is not like GL. They usually dun get high volume of customer. Maybe only a handful a day. So i dun tink the money is that great. Afterall they are so many TNs around. And dun forget they have living expenses too and some of them may have had to pay a tidy sum upfront to get themselves here....
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#3
14-02-2008, 09:37 AM
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Re: Spoiling the Massues
Hi, I agree with bro too hot...
I dun think we can become so calculative towards the rates we pay in the TN. I'm the sort of guy that frequent TN instead of GL coz I like to have a rub down before action. Imagine that the gal has to give you a massage so as to fulfill your purpose coming to a TN and might be paid little or non of the 'entrance fee' . And during the 'action', there is only the clock you have to check with. If you are there only for the sake of unloading your load, you can jolly well tell the gal upfront so you got more time to play.....Thats of course if the place is a fuck shop or a joint you have visited before n know whats on the menu. Well, that also depends how long you can last...heheheheh. Lastly, there are so many joints out there.... good ones bad ones. If we don't reward the good joints, the gals would not return to our sillyland to give us better services. Hence to reduce the chance of hitting a bad joint, do your homework and read through the treads. Although one man's meat might be other man's poison, it can't be too far. Thats my 10 cents worth(inflation).
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#4
14-02-2008, 10:57 AM
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Similarly, legal chickens be it at Keong siak,desker or other back lanes going for $50 a pop with 2 - 3 showers thrown in ,the quality and service remains unjustified. If value for money is your aim, den better pcc for free or go sperm bank and donate your eggs for many desperate childless couples. You say u cheong for 10 years leow, then sad to say u probably cheong on the wrong end of the scale . It all boils down to whether u determine the worth of the girl doing the special for u.If the offer is too steep U can always reject.
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#5
14-02-2008, 11:28 AM
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Brudders i started this not to flame anyone nor to abuse anyone verbally.
Honestly i am pleased with the replies of Bro toohot and Bro procum. That things are sometimes not the way they seem. As in you must be paying lower but you end up paying higher. Honestly i do not Begrudge local or Malaysians being paid that sort of a price. Also i do not begrudge those working in the upscale HCs being paid that sort of a price. But i definitely am against paying upmarket HC rates at low end TNs. Anyway i was trying to seek peoples opinion and get people to moderate prices. To be honest, most of the time i get a fair deal much better than what most brudders post here in terms of pricing. And i visit TNS for the same purpose as bro procum mentioned. A little bit of rubdown before action. However I cheong far too often amidst the economic ups and downs. I have been fairly successful in getting very good rates. Guess its all how you handle the situation. I respect the opinion of Bro too hot and bro procum. Now Bro Maituleow, I know that you are not a newbie and if you do respect me you should not say things such as "If value for money is your aim, den better pcc for free or go sperm bank and donate your eggs for many desperate childless couples. You say u cheong for 10 years leow, then sad to say u probably cheong on the wrong end of the scale ." I just opened a thread to moderate opinion. The thread was not directed at you. Why get so upset? Bro Maituleow please dun call people desperate childless couples. That shows that we despise certain types of human beings. Its not fair to anyone. Being a wiseman please apologise to all the childless couples who go all out to try and have a child of their own. "Living beings reproduce to have continuity. To have one of their own". If the PRCs can go all out just to earn a living why cant you apply similar strokes of the pen to Childless couples who go all out to have one of their own? Bro MAituleow, maybe you are one of those fortunate people who has everything right going in your way. Please do not look down on less fortunate people. Bro Maituleow, you said "If value for money is your aim, den better pcc for free or go sperm bank and donate your eggs ..... You say u cheong for 10 years leow, then sad to say u probably cheong on the wrong end of the scale ." i do not think it befits an old cheongstar like you to pass rude comments like this. if you doubt my cheonging capabilities leave me a private message and il share with you my experiences. Maybe after a man to man talk we can be good friends. Up to it Bro Maituleow?
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#6
14-02-2008, 12:12 PM
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i agree with u bro CheongStar2000
100 for 15min bonk is lousy value . . who dun wanna pay just 60 for 30min bonl BUT is SUPPLY & DEMAND . . . If enough customers are willing to pay 100, why should they bring it down Some girls & HC want 120 . . .some bros are willing to pay some are not these days i'm doing HJ without usual SOP massage to increase value & VARIETY . . .but thats for another thread in future SIMPLY SUPPLY & DEMAND . . . . up to u pay or not cheers bros 
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#7
14-02-2008, 02:49 PM
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Just to further elaborate (cos i cheong widely) recently i was initiated into soapy "massage" but actually there is no massage at all. Buts its damn shiok. Damage was the same as normal TN/HC (around $140 incl fj). At one glance the soapy massage definitely more worth it cos got a lot more action, no fight at all. BUT i don't write off TN/HC altogether cos when i go to soapy, the whole "agenda" is already known. There is no element of "mystery". But sex is as much physical as it is psychological. When i go to HC/TN, especially one i never been before, there is an element of "mystery" that can be a very arousing too. How will the "massuese" seduce u into doing special? Some ask directly (no fun), some hint hint or persuade (a bit fun) but some without telling u start to touch all ur sensitive parts and u can feel being seduced by her which is very arousing. I had one experience where the lady halfway during the massage, let go her nice long hair which drop over her shoulders then took of her top and bra and started giving BM on my butt followed by AR. The unannouced treatment made me damn steam! Some others during massaging ur thighs start to give u "devil claw" treament also damn arousing...although i will say that for TN i normally only opt for HJ @ $50 which total up to $80 to $90 so its cheaper. So different type of commercial sex got its own "thing", who is to say which one is deserving of higher price? In the end, variety is the essence of life. So dun tink too much, keep bonking & have fun!
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#8
14-02-2008, 04:10 PM
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#9
14-02-2008, 04:15 PM
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Totally agree with bro too_hot He very wisely reminded us that mystery is one element of fun . . . thats why even after a very good session i sometimes lack the will to RTF cos i know what i'm going to get next . . . unless of course we change the pattern of seduction . . . key here is variety cheers bro
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MEMENTO MORI - "remember that we are all going to die" come wit notin, leave wit notin. all we have r our experiences. make them da best. b true to yourself
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#10
14-02-2008, 04:30 PM
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I will neither agree or disagree with the above. If you think is veri x, then dun go to TN/HC,it also depend on the gal sve too, if the sve is good, then $100 is a value for money,other wlse, we can look for GL $30/$40 forthai and indo. after all we bro here same of them like me just want to unload the stress as part of it,be it a prc,thai,indo or m'sia gal.GL also have m'sia gal who cost us $150, so do u think is it too costly for 45mis?Like one bro said, if fan wong cost $5000, how many will go for it? it depend too
At the end of it, it take two hand to clap, for me is x and sve not good, for sure i wil not rtf even is cost only $30...If you have spare $, then many you can just go fot it....it not save it for better use if you think it not value for $ bro.... happy cheong all bro....  
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#11
14-02-2008, 05:06 PM
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I agree lah....that's why I never do FJ with girls I am trying for the first time....because of the increased excitement...sometimes...."Game over" very quickly....
So these days....I stick to my regular and skip the massage....that way...I can get all the teasing and foreplay before the actual "action"... I personally feel mre value for money for me this way lah....
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#12
14-02-2008, 06:42 PM
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ur avatar is damn farni
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#13
14-02-2008, 06:45 PM
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but bro, u say *we* change the pattern of seduction? i tot is they seducing us first? 
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#14
14-02-2008, 08:41 PM
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What i mean by seducing them. . .is sometimes instead of waiting for them i take initiative to see their reaction & keep pushing bit by bit trick is i try my best (if keen on the girl) to set rapport ASAP . . . been to her hometown, favourite foods, shopping, leisure, interest etc smile a lot of course, be gentle, cheeky, whatever works always interesting to see their reaction when i surprise them with my wandering hands its all about having fun & enjoying it right? cheers bros .
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MEMENTO MORI - "remember that we are all going to die" come wit notin, leave wit notin. all we have r our experiences. make them da best. b true to yourself
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#15
14-02-2008, 08:55 PM
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Re: Spoiling the Massues
u ask,they quote.
If u k accept,u take. Otherwise,u move on 2 other places 2 look. u buy a bottle of martel fr any shop,it cost less than SGD100. why u still go ktv,where it cost ard SGD200 during HH & SGD350 after HH?? a lot of factors will contribute 2 the situation/scenerio. tis kannot be the case of comparing apple 2 apple. they r diff type.................
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