Batam Info / Interest / Help Thread

[nono1973]

Originally Posted by miumiu6464

We are staying in a 2 br landed house now. Fan in 1 br and ac in another br. No TV as not provided by landlord. Other things like fridge and washing machine applies. AC is on average 16 hours a day. Our electricity bill never go beyond 200k per month. But, of course, we are not staying in an expensive city like Batam. FYI.

Hmm...this is helpful and note taken down for future reference.

In Sillypore, big home, big bill..ok,i get that but in Batam small home, big bill and big home small bill. Something that i believe that would puzzle most who are reading. Batam has never fail to amaze me, just like when i read fresh live sea food cost lesser than refrigerated sea food. Seriously...

That not counting their culture of paying less to get better service and paying more for not-so-good service i mentioned in the past,hehehe... thats my very own understanding of Batam.

Crazily amazing indeed.

Originally Posted by miumiu6464

I'll try to look around my laptop. Have a copy of Nagoya Homestay electricity bill from a few years back that you might find useful.

Thank you.

[retirebatam]

Originally Posted by ndnd

Yes status. The only good things about staying in apartment. Of coz security and privacy also. Human being all like to have or feel the status, but when come to reality of buying, many normal locals will think twice on that. Buy a apartment unit is not difficult, but to resell it is not easy, if want to earn from it, will be a challenge.

True, now is the buyer's market, buying is easy (many options) but selling is difficult (supply more than demand)

Most of the local batam residents (indonesian) would rather buy landed property than apartment for the following reasons.

1) They can own the landed property as they are indonesian citizen

2) There is no need to pay for maintenance fee unlike condo/apartment with facilities. To them, status may not be an essential thing but the convenience to park their car infront of their house in a landed property is one of their consideration.

Car is cheap and many Batam residents can afford. Brand New Toyota Agya 1.0E A/T small size car cost only 122 Juta = Sing $12,000 which is almost as cheap as msia car given that it is Toyota brand. Petrol, insurance, parking, maintenance, etc comparatively is much more cheaper here than spore.

3) Landed house utility bill (water/electricity) usually is cheaper than high rise apartment.

The reason could be due to water pressure is stronger in high rise apartment using booster pump and gravity flow from rooftop water tank as compare to direct water supply to the landed house from the garmen water agency. Thus more water flows out from the apartment water tap per min than the landed house water tap which resulted a higher water bill.

As for electricity bill, heresay that highrise apartment more expensive than landed house probably because the electricity meter in the new apartment is new tends to run more accurately.

Foreigner retiree / new immigrants on the other hand may consider apartment/condo over landed house for the following reasons:

1) Foreigner can only buy condo/apartment under hak pakai (right to use). Unlikely that the foreigner willing to purchase a freehold landed property by allowing a nominee Indonesian national to own the freehold title but signs over power of attorney as this could be quite risky for him in case anything happens.

2) Foreigner who doesn't drive or do not have an international driving licence or not familar with Batam road direction may opt for apartment because apartment are mostly located near the city centre or ferry terminal as compared to landed house location which is further away at the outskirt which rely more on private/public transport.

3) Foreigner who consider security and safety as their first priority but then again security guards in the condo can be bribed..

4) Foreigner who enjoy staying at high floor which is windy and also allow them to look at the beautiful view of batam city.

5) Foreigner especially bule/masaleh/farang/angmo who loves to have swimming pool and gym more than asian which condo can provide.

6) Convenience to buy daily necessity grocery items as most apartment location are surrounded by many convenience store nearby like alfamart, etc

[blk437]

on the way batam. anyone wanna meet up for a drink can message me

[klip2345]

Guys, haven’t had sex for 4 months. Could you tell me where it’s best to pickup a chick ?

Which hotel should I take if I want to get a girl ?

[HeatguyAlvin]

Originally Posted by nono1973

Hehehe...Batam used to have. Just dont know if they are still around.

How i wish someone would bring Shenzhen salon concept of the 80s/90s to Batam.

ohhhh wahhhh SZ. Those good days. don't have to go so far back but it was really a nice playground

[HeatguyAlvin]

Originally Posted by klip2345

Guys, haven’t had sex for 4 months. Could you tell me where it’s best to pickup a chick ?

Which hotel should I take if I want to get a girl ?

you can click on the links on bro NONO's signature. I'm not the tabao type, can't help.

[ndnd]

Originally Posted by retirebatam

goldbird/sedona or another neaby booking joint

Near to sedona is Jingle

[ndnd]

Originally Posted by retirebatam

Bro ndnd, understand that you have migrated to Batam 25 years ago. I believe similarly for bro newyorker and bro BFOMF5...

Bro ndnd, since you have migrated or retired in batam, have you obtained indonesian Permanent Resident (PR) or Indonesia Citizenship.

Have you also obtained Batam Kartu Tanda Penduduk ?

Understand that singapore citizen can only renounce his/her Singapore citizenship if he/she has acquired citizenship of another country.

No, i didnt apply for any long term stay in indonesia.
Just make an U turn will do.
Go back SG once awhile for KTV session or go malaysia for holiday.
I doubt anyone will renounce SG citizenship for Indonesia citizenship.
I used to have one batam KTP. Those provinsi type which valid for 5 years. The old KTP. Just 300k that time.
I used it as a discount card as i used to travel JKT and Jawa area. Many hotels charge lower rate if using an Indo KTP to check in.

[ndnd]

Originally Posted by retirebatam

3) Landed house utility bill (water/electricity) usually is cheaper than high rise apartment.

As for electricity bill, heresay that highrise apartment more expensive than landed house probably because the electricity meter in the new apartment is new tends to run more accurately.

Landed house pay to PLN. Base on PLN rate.

Apartment pay to property management. Base on the property's rate. Thats the different.

@ NONO, solar system for landed house is ok. For apartment, i doubt the management will approve even you own the unit. Better double check before purchase.

[ndnd]

Originally Posted by sohbuckkong

Wed night followed my friend to Morena pub, went at around 11pm, its a very happening place, lots of girls inside. It was my first time to Morena pub. As its still within ramadan, so the pub close at 2am

Nice report on Morena pub.
Went there recently but to the KTV.
3 bottles of Black Label at 2.8juta
Sitting fee at 400k / 500k per gal.
Quite a good place for enjoy with reasonable price.
Will visit again very soon...

[Bigkuss]

Bars closed for public holiday. Looks deserted. Wechat selection is less too.

[DDAMn]

3) Landed house utility bill (water/electricity) usually is cheaper than high rise apartment.

The reason could be due to water pressure is stronger in high rise apartment using booster pump and gravity flow from rooftop water tank as compare to direct water supply to the landed house from the garmen water agency. Thus more water flows out from the apartment water tap per min than the landed house water tap which resulted a higher water bill.

As for electricity bill, heresay that highrise apartment more expensive than landed house probably because the electricity meter in the new apartment is new tends to run more accurately. 



Nono pls also dun forget Batam have certain times Water rationing & Power Shutdown..hahahaha

[ChiongBalai]

Is there a link/guide to the ferries and their departure timings from HBF?

[Naka_Timo]

Originally Posted by ChiongBalai

Is there a link/guide to the ferries and their departure timings from HBF?

Please go to their website to check.

Batamfast and horizon ferry. Inside tell you everything

[BFOMF5]

Originally Posted by ndnd

I used to have one batam KTP. Those provinsi type which valid for 5 years. The old KTP. Just 300k that time.
I used it as a discount card as i used to travel JKT and Jawa area. Many hotels charge lower rate if using an Indo KTP to check in.

That interesting
Could use for ferry..?