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Old 21-07-2007, 01:07 AM
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Re: Mediacorp Actress Got Raped in Malaysia

Ok lah, first time posting here so I hope I don't get flamed for my comments.

I'm a Malaysian. Chinese, Malay, Indian, Eurasian, Portuguese, Iban, Kadazan.. whatever, who cares? I am one. And well, most of you guys are right on one thing, JB is one screwed up place. Seriously screwed up. Whenever I visit Singapore, which I do quite often, I'd try not to stop off in JB cos it's messed up.

But crimes, how do they begin and who commits them? Yeah yeah.. criminals. But who are the criminals? First off, we get lots of these snatch thieves here. They ride on motorcyles and try and steal the bags. Main culprits? Unemployed and unemployable Malay youths. Not that being a Malay is a bad thing k? I lived in Singapore for five years and the Malays over at your place don't seem to be as screwy as the ones we have here. But after being brought up in a world where you are given everything, I guess finding out that the real working world doesn't give a shit about you having 30% is rather hard to take. They get easy degrees (like toilet paper) and they can't get jobs cos their language skills are not good enough, they can't sell themselves. So no job and what do they turn to? Crime.

You know, over here we have these people called Mat Rempit. They are like motorcycle gangs. Go to the roads late at night and create a big nuisance. But UMNO Youth (which is like the Malay version of Young PAP) want to court them and make them UMNO members? Yeah, these thugs and ruffians become UMNO members. Why? Because the thugs are Malays and politics mah.

Actually, you guys are a bit wrong though. You might think that Malaysia has no laws. We have laws here. We have courts and things like that. But we don't have a good enough dedicated police force. Sad to say, even after their payrise, policemen in Malaysia are still paid very low. If I'm not mistakened it's like less than 1k ringgit. You want a policeman to risk his life on that pay? He'll say "FUCK YOU, PUKIMAK!" I know it may sound unprofessional but it's human nature.

End of the story. I don't know why sometimes (if not most of the times), you Singaporeans always complain about LKY and PAP. Believe me, I'd rather have LKY than AAB. You are lucky, you know. I know one of you said that Separation was one thing LKY got right. Dunno about that. I get very upset everytime I think about it. Upset because if it had never happened, maybe.. maybe LKY would have become PM of Malaysia and my country won't be so messed up.

Then again, must be thankful for small mercies. My grandparents could have landed in Indonesia instead. Then surely mati, lah.
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Old 21-07-2007, 10:19 AM
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Re: Mediacorp Actress Got Raped in Malaysia

Many of my malaysian friends, when coming to Singapore, bypass Johor and refused to shop or stop at Johor too because the crime situation is Asia's worst. You speak like any one of those people in KL ( not as if KL is safe but at least u dont have 4 malay youths pulling u off into the car to palm farms to gang-rape you )

Please see the youths being charged ( although i feel that these 4 are made the scapegoats )

Eight charged with robbery-rape

JOHOR BARU: Eight men were slapped with multiple charges of robbery, rape and forcing their victims to perform unnatural sex acts at two Sessions Courts here yesterday.

The eight, aged between 19 and 31, are accused of committing the offences at separate locations between May 22 and June 11.

Accused Mohd Fiadli Azman, 21, Mohd Iskandar Ahmad Sukmawati, 19, and Mohd Razie Abd Rahman, 22, were charged with raping and forcing an Indonesian woman to perform oral sex on them at a vegetable garden in Kempas between 6am and 9am on May 22.

Mohd Iskandar and Hafizullah Ismail, 22, were charged with raping and forcing a 35-year-old victim to perform oral sex in Jalan Denai Utama, Kempas, between 12.10am and 1.10am on June 6.

Mohd Harnizam Abdul Rahman, 24, and Salim Atan, 31, were charged with raping and forcing their 18-year-old victim to perform oral sex at an abandoned hut in Taman Tampoi Indah between 10.30pm and 12.30am on June 11.

Two others – Iskandar Jaafar, 29, and Norman Kembali, 27, – were also charged with rape and forcing the girl to perform oral sex.

Four of the accused – Salim, Norman, Iskandar Jaafar and Harnizam – were also charged with robbing and causing grievous harm with a parang to Ang Yew Lee, 22, in Jalan Persiaran Indah, Taman Bukit Indah, at 10.30pm on June 11.

Judge Muhammad Jamil Husin and Judge Zainal Azman Abdul Aziz denied bail to the eight on the grounds of public safety and interest.

The judges set Sept 26 for mention.
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Re: Mediacorp Actress Got Raped in Malaysia

Allow me to inject some humour into this thread please...

Overheard at a coffeeshop in JB...

Man A: "I keep hearing about the high crime rate in this city. I wonder what does statistics really say."

Man B: "Nobody knows for sure."

Man A: "Why not?."

Man B: "Somebody stole them."
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Old 21-07-2007, 06:21 PM
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Re: Mediacorp Actress Got Raped in Malaysia

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i don't hear any rape cases against Malay girls ah ????
Well it's usually called incest.

I believe in retribution which I hope comes real soon for these @#$^&@
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Old 21-07-2007, 09:37 PM
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I don't know why sometimes (if not most of the times), you Singaporeans always complain about LKY and PAP. Believe me, I'd rather have LKY than AAB. You are lucky, you know. I know one of you said that Separation was one thing LKY got right. Dunno about that. I get very upset everytime I think about it. Upset because if it had never happened, maybe.. maybe LKY would have become PM of Malaysia and my country won't be so messed up.
I will not deny the contributions of LKY. He is indeed an exceptional man. We Singaporeans are a pragmatic lot, for we would only accept facts and figures to guide us in life. And the facts & figures, the results & achievements do indeed shows LKY has done more good than harm as a human being. But he is still only a man, a mortal just like the rest of us.

So, for my msian bros, please do not be disheartened by current events. I am sure most msians are patriotic and love their homeland just as much as anyone else, no matter what community.

Living amongst you will exist a man of LKY's calibre, who is blessed with foresight and passion to give people a realistic better life, only waiting to be discovered or had been overlooked, for we humans are emotional beings and often prefer to listen to what we want to hear, rather than to cold hard facts until too late.

It may be too late for our generation, who had lost to tactics employed by devious power corrupt elements who used divide and conquer strategies to achieve their aims. The more we hate each other's community, the more votes they will garner with the major majority community thru the instrument of fear.

It hurts so much when one's child is born, innocent and naive, only to be forced to accept that their fate is already sealed, for they will have little or no place to reach education's pinnacle, have to work harder than others, play 2nd fiddle to those who have lesser merit, or denied of opportunities, or even get state's constitutional guaranteed protection.

But it is still not too late to win dignity and true equality for them, our next generation. We would need to reach out to ALL communities and do not allow hatred to fester, allowing that emotion to grow into fear as a wedge to forcefully pull us apart.

By reaching out and befriending, bonding with them, they would not have any cause to hate anymore. Disagreements are natural, but it can be solved by logic and reason. We dont need to reach out dauntingly to 22 million citizens, just to our neighbours and goodwill will exponentially grow.

In truth, most malays themselves are not stupid and do not want theocracy rule. For that would mean acceptance of archaic religious laws for daily life. While some of its law may be relevant, most arent for our modern present life.

But under a theocracy, society must adopt ALL its laws, there can be NO compromise to stay true to the 'leap of faith' required, surrendering all will to a leader or leaders whom claim to know and speak thru the mouth of an Almighty.

Most malays will accept it in the end, but only because of peer pressure and more critically, the fear element of minority communities taking political control, which the minority groups wont be able to because religion is what that will separate all others. Factions only serve themselves, without a care for the damage it will do to society as a whole.

Thus, for good progressive people to win, we will have to prove our intentions of goodwill by reaching out to other communities to deny the factions an opportunity to divide us.

The nation's forefathers had already signed a social contract - the constitution that guarantees a secular state. No man may tamper with the constitution without being branded a traitor and an anarchist, for the constitution was created by good men for the sake of future generations of diverse groups to live in harmony in a shared country. Any changes will require the approval of all groups.

By reaching out to our neighbouring communities, opening up of ourselves to them, we would show them there is nothing to fear, for we all share the common traits of life - to survive, to obtain a better life peacefully, rather than to annhilate one another, for beneath all our differences, we are similar humans with similar needs and wants. There is enough resources in the country for all.

The only difference of living beings on earth are human and animals...and ex-humans who choosed to become beasts.

By reaching out to them, over a cup of coffee, we can share our ideals and rationale, our common aims for the future and many will share in the belief of the need to progress beyond archaic laws, which was necessary during an ancient time but holds little relevance with the rapid progress the rest of the world is gaining and adapting to its changes beneficially for the good of themselves and society.

Humans have the ability to rationalize and can be won over by social behavioural & scientific facts, coupled with statistical mathematically rational figures of progress.

We need to evolve as our forefathers had - from cave dewellers to discoverers of habitable planets in the universe - and move with the times, or we will only disgrace and disappoint the One who gave us the miracle of life and opened our eyes to the wonders of daily discoveries in living.

Success for a peaceful change for good starts with only one person and grows exponentially. We must never give up for the sake of our future generations. An example of how the future would look like if we fail would be the state of Johor today.

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why so politics here huh? have fun and relax!
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Old 21-07-2007, 09:43 PM
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Re: Mediacorp Actress Got Raped in Malaysia

johor and malaysia has failed the Chinese.. the useless government and police are really dumb and hopeless. it would take malaysia another 500 years to catch up with Singapore at this rate.
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The nation's forefathers had already signed a social contract - the constitution that guarantees a secular state. No man may tamper with the constitution without being branded a traitor and an anarchist, for the constitution was created by good men for the sake of future generations of diverse groups to live in harmony in a shared country. Any changes will require the approval of all groups.
this is definitely not true in sg.. the PAP amends the constitution like drinking water..
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this is definitely not true in sg.. the PAP amends the constitution like drinking water..

errrm...only 5 times after our independence in 1965, with approval from members of parliament and with opinions from a 3-judges supreme court judiciary tribunal.

1. 1970 - to safeguard racial. linguistics and religious minorities thru the formation of a presidential council for minority rights.

2. 1984 - provide for non-constituency MPs.

3. 1988 - introduce group representation constituencies, so as to always include a minority race in the group instead of single candidates for voting MPs.

1988 - to provide for nominated MPs as credible voices in parliament, after poor showing by opposition parties.

1991 - to allow citizens to vote for President.

Its perfectly ok to amend the constitution in order to move with the times, but any changes must be approved by citizens thru all elected representatives or at least 2/3 of them after much careful considerations by the head of state

Politics is no fun, but too much racially motivated crimes and too many defenseless minority groups' women and children are sexually assualted in Johor, just sharing and see if something can be done to help.....we are all only humans after all, laugh or bleed the same.


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maybe LKY would have become PM of Malaysia and my country won't be so messed up.

I almost fell from my chair, a Chinese becoming the PM of malaysia? not possible lah, even if he is LKY...

Anyway the recent closed door meeting of the people with the politicianswill not have any impact la, cuz it is a problem of not enough pay. Why risk ya life for a miserable hundreds whne it is easier to get "handouts"?

They really need a radical change.
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why so politics here huh? have fun and relax!
Wow lao hey, if ur were to sit for essay writing exam, guarantee fail until jia-lat jia-lat one ... the topic is Mediacorp Actress and ur ended discussing abt LKY and ABB ... please lor ... teacher neber teach meh ... read carefully ur question before ur answer ... sibeh jia-lat
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so who got raped?
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nono, not Lynn poh. lynn poh 's car windscreen was literally smashed in JB when she went into a shopping centre. her car was parked outside in the open with people walking around.

the other actress who was carjack is not so popular.

anyway, someone posted this in the other forum..

malaysian chinese guys got charged for beating up a malay guy.

Why they wanna beat up the malay guy? This is a real story reported in the malaysia press.

This young Chinese girl from Perling, Johor was buying food in public. She passed by a lane and was FORCEFULLY DRAGGED into another backlane by hair and stripped of her clothes!

Malay boy wanted to fuck her naked but found that she having period. Therefore, turned off by this and scamper off when his attempted RAPE failed.

Shocked girl called boyfriend in his mobile. Shocked girl's boyfren arrived with several other Chinese men wanting to find the rapist and beat up the fucker.

They found him in an arcade. Whacked the hell out of him for trying to RAPE the innocent girls. Bystanders who knew the story joined in the assault.

The malay rapist made a police report. The Chinese guys were arrested and waiting to be charged in court.

Malay guy got off scot free for attempt RAPE, which could land him in jail if committed in Singapore to 20 years.

MALAYSIA POLICE BODOH!
should juz kill the fucker off...
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Politics is no fun, but too much racially motivated crimes and too many defenseless minority groups' women and children are sexually assualted in Johor, just sharing and see if something can be done to help.....we are all only humans after all, laugh or bleed the same.
Well said! Still be it majority or minority, all women and children should be protected from such crimes. What goes around comes around. Retribution will be round the corner.
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should juz kill the fucker off...
couldnt agree more
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