Guys with Wife or Good GF still look for pros or flings. Why

[bochapsing]

Originally Posted by Fauxpas

Hi bros ... my 2 cents worth ... I visit WLs for the excitement of fucking a stranger, with no strings attached. My wife only enjoys sex once in a while.!!).

i think most of us visit WL is to taste some new dishes different from homecooked dish.. some excitment, some services that we can't find at home..
as for my case, wife does bj, bbj, ar.. u may say i'm lucky, BUT she only enjoy or want sex once in a long while.. so am i a fortunate or unfortunate guy?! so i try to strike a balance lor.. go find some fast food outside, order, pay, eat and then throw n forget..
there's a hugh different btw gals n guys, most of them can survive sex, but we cannot..

[colins]

Originally Posted by leonard87

yes adultry is not a crime in commercial law but it is in marriage laws,sure the guy cant be send to jail or anything..but when get divorce he must give the wife alimony moneys and alot of things more..seriously think abt it u betray ur wife/gf just because she cant sastify you then your just an animal not even fit to be a human..to say the truth i know even my uncle is betraying his family..he's already near 70 got an accident before so he cant walk properly and has no income..but his wife and his children gave him money..and yet he goes to find prc did he think of how they work and gave him money seriously when i think of it i find it filthy and detestable as i say if your horny go and pcc yourself..because when we guys say what needs is all BS we just wants to shoot our load off thats all.then just go pcc

Wah, I really wonder why you are here in SBF and posting in this thread. Perhaps you like to have a talk with your dad, and your uncle as well. Tell them how you feel. And yeah, tell them its really very wrong to betray the family like that even if they have taken care of their family for the longest time in their hard young lives. Try to change their perception that prc is evil and pcc is good, pcc all you can, pcc is the one and only way to solve all issues that appear to be filthy and 'detestable'. Oh yeah, and tell them if they dun listen to you, you will bao toh their evil deeds to their wives and make them suffer becos they dun (actually can't) pcc anymore. And guess what, from a truly moral standpoint, you will be the role model!

Good luck kid.

[old_yet_horny]

Originally Posted by colins

Wah, I really wonder why you are here in SBF and posting in this thread..........guess what, from a truly moral standpoint, you will be the role model!

Good luck kid.

Bro Colin... Give that kid a chance la.

If he can say that again 20 years later especially after a rough and bumpy relaitonship with a gal, I make him a trophy or even a medal with the below title...


OUTSTANDING PERSERVERANCE AGAINST THE TEMPTATION OF F**KING AROUND.

[aces68]

Originally Posted by old_yet_horny

If he can say that again 20 years later especially after a rough and bumpy relaitonship with a gal, I make him a trophy or even a medal with the below title...

I remember when I was young I also had some ideals like staying faithful to one gal...I also wonder why men look for FL and sometimes bring STD back home...
but after 20 years later, all I can say is make sure your gal is a wild sex kitten in bed otherwise, you will surely end up in SBF like the rest of us

[aces68]

double posting; sorry

[colins]

Originally Posted by old_yet_horny

Bro Colin... Give that kid a chance la.

If he can say that again 20 years later especially after a rough and bumpy relaitonship with a gal, I make him a trophy or even a medal with the below title...


OUTSTANDING PERSERVERANCE AGAINST THE TEMPTATION OF F**KING AROUND.

Bro...believe me I tried man. Only now then I replied to this my-oldman-ain't-better-than-me kid. The last straw was his story abt the uncle nearing 70s, this one I cannot tahan anymore.

Seriously I had a discussion with my uncle on this topic once, these days suddenly my dad's brother is my best friend. He is in his sixties and a public servant btw. He said one thing that still register in my mind.

He said look at those people in their fifties and sixties sitting around in geylang coffeeshop. They are only looking for someone to talk to, some respect that they not only human, but a man in them who is still retaining their needs from their thirties. Look at some of the prc (no doubt MILF-type) and how they treat those men. Esp those older ones. The ladies sit with them, hold their hands, talk with proper manners, wave for a cab for them when they want to leave, ask the cabby to wait while she rushes back and accompany them to the cab (some of them need walking stick) and wave them off with goodbyes.

You can say that the MILF just want money. But look at it this way, can the old man pay his own sons and daughters to do this? The same old man, when he reaches home, will only hear complains after complains from their wives, like why my 老不死 dun want to stay home, play some chess or do some taiji shit. My uncle said his friend once told him, that if he pass away one day, he dun mind giving his cpf to his prc lady who is possibly the only person to treat him like a proper human. No regrets. His own sons dun support him, visit him like once a quarter year, his wife has a bad mouth and scolds everybody including the neighbour's dog.

Is he senile? My uncle said no, he is also in his sixties and he understands why. Of cos the old men know that prc wants money, but the ladies gave them what they wanted. In fact, its EVERYTHING they wanted at their age. These men dun give their prc gf just money, its gratitude. They can die without regrets, thats the exact words my uncle heard.

And now, all we need is some young punk to come to them, talk about self-righteousness and morality, give them a piece of their mind with their marriage laws and happy marriage counselling. Yeah leonard87, this is how your fairy tale stories end happily ever after, you the knight in shiny armour taking the day where all old men listen to your sermons that extra-marital friendship is evil and pcc will give them all companionship they sought.

[aces68]

Originally Posted by colins

You can say that the MILF just want money. But look at it this way, can the old man pay his own sons and daughters to do this? The same old man, when he reaches home, will only hear complains after complains from their wives, like why my 老不死 dun want to stay home, play some chess or do some taiji shit. My uncle said his friend once told him, that if he pass away one day, he dun mind giving his cpf to his prc lady who is possibly the only person to treat him like a proper human. No regrets. His own sons dun support him, visit him like once a quarter year, his wife has a bad mouth and scolds everybody including the neighbour's dog.

Is he senile? My uncle said no, he is also in his sixties and he understands why. Of cos the old men know that prc wants money, but the ladies gave them what they wanted. In fact, its EVERYTHING they wanted at their age. These men dun give their prc gf just money, its gratitude. They can die without regrets, thats the exact words my uncle heard.

bro, this insight is refreshing..I never looked at it that way but I can emphatise with the "old men"..I would probbaly do the same if I was in their shoes..

[weeklys]

i totally agree with what bro colins say. i mean that kid (i dunno really how old is he) is not wrong but probably didnt see it from another angle. my dad told me once (not abt sex of coz) that he go back yearly to china and visit relative and my distant uncle over there will accompany him every day, every hour till he come back. my distant uncle has money so it is not abt money ad he give my dad respect, make him feel comfortable, always there for him which is what my dad sought after so many years working for this family. sometimes i felt ashame not accompany him enough as i also have my commitments.

likewise, everybody knows prc, thai whatever is all for money but they are already so old, they wanted comfort, respect, or whatever reason after so many years working to raise this family...is that wrong. can we go them comfort, respect and be there always for them. i guess not. of coz....if you are talking abt ppl who has never do anything for their family and still getting money from them to have fun then i would say it is wrong.

no offense

[hoho99]

Originally Posted by colins

Of cos the old men know that prc wants money, but the ladies gave them what they wanted. In fact, its EVERYTHING they wanted at their age. These men dun give their prc gf just money, its gratitude. They can die without regrets, thats the exact words my uncle heard.

And now, all we need is some young punk to come to them, talk about self-righteousness and morality, give them a piece of their mind with their marriage laws and happy marriage counselling. Yeah leonard87, this is how your fairy tale stories end happily ever after, you the knight in shiny armour taking the day where all old men listen to your sermons that extra-marital friendship is evil and pcc will give them all companionship they sought.

Well thanks for bringing more insight into the minds of the older folks. Hmmm it seems that many are cash rich but poor in soul. Its sad man

[colins]

Originally Posted by hoho99

Well thanks for bringing more insight into the minds of the older folks. Hmmm it seems that many are cash rich but poor in soul. Its sad man

To be frank, guys, we all have fathers and uncles. While I am not saying that what I said is absolutely what they are thinking, my point is to understand things at their standpoint. My dad and uncle and I din used to be close until we discuss such topics, to me it gave my dad a way to tell me that I am not spending enough time & attention for him.

Sometimes its sad when you get into the life of a closed one whom you are not staying with. You may think that they are having a happening life when in fact, they go dinner alone everyday and their friends are dying off one by one. Its not just a sunday headache, its gonna be the way they live until they die, so its a lot to reconcile with if you see it from their eyes.

[EtherC]

Right and wrong is not exactly like black and white in the real world. Most of it is just grey. Many of us were brought up with "good/white" values and eventually develop a moral compass but during our journeys in life we may find that the direction of the moral compass leads to some deep ravine.

Sometime ago a WL related to me that she had a client who was a doctor in his fifties. He books her just to talk and cuddle. The guy doesn't even fuck her because he can't really perform and doesn't enjoy it anymore. So technically it wasn't paid sex. A man who dedicated his life to curing people of diseases ends up having no one to talk to and resorts to hiring a hooker. Should his children blame him if they should discover this "shameful liaison"?

Being perceptive is good but sometimes for the greater good certain things should be kept to ourselves. Truth often hurts and sometimes a white lie is the healing balm.

[weeklys]

Originally Posted by colins

To be frank, guys, we all have fathers and uncles. While I am not saying that what I said is absolutely what they are thinking, my point is to understand things at their standpoint. My dad and uncle and I din used to be close until we discuss such topics, to me it gave my dad a way to tell me that I am not spending enough time & attention for him.

Sometimes its sad when you get into the life of a closed one whom you are not staying with. You may think that they are having a happening life when in fact, they go dinner alone everyday and their friends are dying off one by one. Its not just a sunday headache, its gonna be the way they live until they die, so its a lot to reconcile with if you see it from their eyes.

totally agree

[84gunner]

Originally Posted by colins

Bro...believe me I tried man. Only now then I replied to this my-oldman-ain't-better-than-me kid. The last straw was his story abt the uncle nearing 70s, this one I cannot tahan anymore.

Seriously I had a discussion with my uncle on this topic once, these days suddenly my dad's brother is my best friend. He is in his sixties and a public servant btw. He said one thing that still register in my mind.

He said look at those people in their fifties and sixties sitting around in geylang coffeeshop. They are only looking for someone to talk to, some respect that they not only human, but a man in them who is still retaining their needs from their thirties. Look at some of the prc (no doubt MILF-type) and how they treat those men. Esp those older ones. The ladies sit with them, hold their hands, talk with proper manners, wave for a cab for them when they want to leave, ask the cabby to wait while she rushes back and accompany them to the cab (some of them need walking stick) and wave them off with goodbyes.

You can say that the MILF just want money. But look at it this way, can the old man pay his own sons and daughters to do this? The same old man, when he reaches home, will only hear complains after complains from their wives, like why my 老不死 dun want to stay home, play some chess or do some taiji shit. My uncle said his friend once told him, that if he pass away one day, he dun mind giving his cpf to his prc lady who is possibly the only person to treat him like a proper human. No regrets. His own sons dun support him, visit him like once a quarter year, his wife has a bad mouth and scolds everybody including the neighbour's dog.

Is he senile? My uncle said no, he is also in his sixties and he understands why. Of cos the old men know that prc wants money, but the ladies gave them what they wanted. In fact, its EVERYTHING they wanted at their age. These men dun give their prc gf just money, its gratitude. They can die without regrets, thats the exact words my uncle heard.

And now, all we need is some young punk to come to them, talk about self-righteousness and morality, give them a piece of their mind with their marriage laws and happy marriage counselling. Yeah leonard87, this is how your fairy tale stories end happily ever after, you the knight in shiny armour taking the day where all old men listen to your sermons that extra-marital friendship is evil and pcc will give them all companionship they sought.

This reminds me of a posting in some thread, about an old man crossing the road in GL, helped by a MILF PRC woman. When asked, he said he felt like Jay Chou crossing the road with his lover (in a movie)! He said there wasn't any sex involved between him & that PRC woman (cos he can't perform oredi), but it's that caring, lovey-dovey feeling that he's after. He cant even remember, when it was that he had that lovey-dovey feeling he last had before that PRC woman!

Oso, in another thread, there's complaints about young, arrogant people bullying old folks, scolding them, blaming them for being slow, clumsy, etc etc. It's natural that older folks' movements are slower & clumsier, but these are the very people, who, in their younger & more active days, contributed to building the society in 1 way or another! They worked hard, toiled with their sweat & blood, to contribute to society & brought up their children. Now, they are being bullied by youngsters young enuf to be their children, or even grandchildren! These ignorant, arrogant & ungrateful brats didnt think that it's the toil, sweat & blood these older people went through during their younger days that the society is enjoying the prosperity today!

How would u feel if other people bully yr parents, or grandparents? Oh, it's hard to say, cos many youngsters nowadays, even "no big no small" to their own elders at home!!!

In SGP nowdays, many, if not most pple, after getting married, move out of their parents' place. Some want privacy, 2-pple's world, etc etc. Many are oso because their wives dont like 2 stay wif parents-in-law, dont like 2 stay wif old folks. Kids are very observant and is likely to follow their parents' footsteps, ie, when these youngsters' kids grow up, they may think it's perfectly normal 4 them to treat their parents the way their parents treated their grandparents!

A typical example with a relative, my cousin-in-law "controls" my cousin (guy) & nephews so tight, many of us can see & feel, that my cousin can hardly breathe. So much that, my cousin is more like detached from the family already, Can only visit his parents occasionally. During CNY, his schedule to visit to his own family is managed by his wife, etc. When going on holiday with family, it's going with his in-laws. His own parents are not invited, nor welcome. Not because of affordability, cos my cousin's parents are financially quite fine. In fact, my cousin's Dad is a General Manager (SGP office) with a German MNC. My uncle only said, it's his own choice & decision (to choose to get married with this woman), happy or not, it's the consequence of his own decision, only he himself knows best. Many relatives said, she (my cousin-in-law) will have her retribution. Let's see when their children grow up.

Even many of my ang moh associates, when they are in Asia, they also show alot of respect to the ordinary old folks on the streets. Same simple reasons. We'll all grow old, and slow like them in time to come. They contributed to the society during their younger days. And mind u, my ang moh associates are all senior management personnel in MNCs.

[Injured]

Hi bros, dun mind me saying something,

perhaps sometimes in life alot of issues are inevitable. but i always bear this in mind, respect others to earn the repect you want to be given.

I believe this will help every to go a long way.

I am not preaching or saying flings are bad but man have each of their own needs.

I have been in SBF for long but doesnt mean that its unfaithful. Some knowledge on sex handed down by senior brothers are useful to my relationship and also well-being.

So everyone stay happy and play safe.

Cheers

[grant]

my 2 cents worth.

Guys tend to stray when wife/gf cant give them what they wanted.
example, out of 100%, perhaps wife/gf can give 70% of it. So therefore guys will be outside looking for the missing 30%. Most guys tend to forget though they found the 30% yet missing on the 70% which is found at home.

I've learnt from my past experience. I have a wonderful gf but i was straying outside to looking for the missing, i found a FB whom give me the best sex i had in my life. All my fantasy she fulfilled. She is lonely, which her bf is flying regularly due to work. So we met up 2-3 times a week. So no strings attached, i decided to have the fun for close to 2 yrs. Getting older, woke up and both of us decided to stop the fun.

I've learnt from my past. Time to move on.
Just hear to share my thoughts on this topic.