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Old 24-05-2004, 10:50 PM
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Re: Stephen Leather's Private Dancer

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NEVER GIVE IN, cos ONCE YOU DO, THERE WILL BE A 2ND, 3RD and MANY MANY MANY MORE TIMES.

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This wan I agree. They will develope a habit call "Take for granted"!
I actually learn it from my own personal experience
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Re: Stephen Leather's Private Dancer

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i dun think they con $$... afterall we are paying for a service. as for affairs of the heart, men normally fail to draw the line between serivce and think it for real (esp TG service)... so we actually willingly give our heart... they also no need to con. of course there are those that are out to con... but it takes 2 hands to clap so we are also guilty to a certain extent.
True..If we could not differenciate Service or Love..We will end up to be losers...BTW when is the next happy hour???
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Old 24-05-2004, 11:58 PM
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i dun think they con $$... afterall we are paying for a service. as for affairs of the heart, men normally fail to draw the line between serivce and think it for real (esp TG service)... so we actually willingly give our heart... they also no need to con. of course there are those that are out to con... but it takes 2 hands to clap so we are also guilty to a certain extent.
For newbie they tend to be confused. Maybe this is also a learning curve for the 'art of cheonging'. Haha...
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Old 25-05-2004, 12:51 AM
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Re: Stephen Leather's Private Dancer

Just my own personal views:

"Cheonging" is NOT throw money and the girl takes it up and bonks with the guy. "Cheonging" is courting the girl into bed and preferably with minimum cost or no cost at all.
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Old 25-05-2004, 04:04 AM
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Re: Stephen Leather's Private Dancer

Been away from my favourite forum for awhile, busy with work and all that. A BIG HELLO to all Bros.

WOW! This thread still going strong, took me a long time to catch up (although its mostly the same issues and the same nice guys still giving out the same advice). Aiyah, bring your wallet and leave your heart at home ler. Easier said than done eh?

Just got back from an unexpected visit to Bangkok. Got together with a TG from cupidy MP I met there on my last trip, which seemed like ages ago...wow, she still has those awesome big neh-neh, she more expensive now, magazine model or something like that, no more in Cupidy. We ate like pig, drank like fish, party like animals and fuck like rabbits for 3 days straight. She said best "holiday" she ever had...heh heh...me too tirak...me too . When I was due to go home, she said "U call if u come to bkk again, let's holiday together". Smile, hug, rub nose like eskimo, board flight with big smile (and tinge of sadness).

I had a point to make when i started this post, but I am rather distracted now remembering her sexy figure and her awesome appetites. Oh, rite! Tis all about vibes bros. I noticed when I go out to entertain or cheong with friends that there are some men and women who seem to get all the luck in the buyer-seller relationships, and some who always seem to get all the raw deals.

But it all goes well when the right vibes are sent out...usually the initiative must be taken by the buyer. What is the right vibe? It's the "I have some money, you have some time and what I want...let's forget the world exists...for a short while..and have loads of fun" vibe.

Leave your heart at home bros. I know its easier said than done, especially when you are young and full of fire and the desire to love and be loved. Love is for that special girl you set your eyes on at home, not for the sex worker abroad while u r on holiday. If you wanna play in LOS, you must control your tender side and let loose your wild side. Be the D-evil.

P.S Know that you are not the only one, you will never be the only one. Realise that if you are not paying money...then the price is too high. Working Girls are just that, if you bring emotions into the deal, you will only receive pain in the end. And this is barring those special cases, and believe us when we tell you, they are few and far between.
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Old 25-05-2004, 10:18 AM
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Re: Stephen Leather's Private Dancer

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Having a relationship with a WL or Ex-WL, there will be a point of time when the men gets held at "gunpoint". Meaning to say, the girl needs money. The guy knows it. Deciding to think whether to help out, not knowing whether its true or false.

The girl is always in a WIN-WIN situation.
While the guy is always in a LOSE-LOSE situation.

The girl works, she "WINS" the money.
The guy succumbs to the request, the girl don't work and she "WINS" the money.

The guy pays for the girl, he "LOSES" the money.
The guy don't pay and sees his sweetheart go back to the trade.

However, the guy can choose to "WIN". He can choose not to pay, and let the girl decide what to do. In this case the ball is in the girl's court.
If the girl choose to work, fine. The guy should know that he should move on and let the girl further her "CAREER", and he himself move on with his cheonging life, cos that is what he is, in the 1st place.

Remember, the girl has their own dreams to pursue, just that we can't be a part of it. Let them move on, while we do it too. As time goes, the pain fades. Eventually, you will not feel much about it too. By thinking indirectly, we ourselves as their tiraks is responsible for their future or rest of their fate, its all our own thinking. Cos in the 1st place, with or without us, life still goes on for everyone.

NEVER GIVE IN, cos ONCE YOU DO, THERE WILL BE A 2ND, 3RD and MANY MANY MANY MORE TIMES.

SC

well said bro! but many a times the guys choose NOT to belief the truth, and cannot accept that their teerak who goes to work, ie if he does not "help" her financially, so he wins but loses her lor.
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Old 25-05-2004, 10:23 AM
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Re: Stephen Leather's Private Dancer

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WLs point of view:-

First they are WLs, Mens knows but Mens are stupid enough to let WLs con, they are the survivor. So dun blame the WLs, Blame yourself, if the WLs have to work day to day how to get rich ? Which WLs like to get fuck my difference Mens everyday? If WLs dun con Mens heart then how the Mens will give them money. Money making for WLs is limited when age catches up unlike Mens.

WLs have this saying" Con Mens Heart and Money will not make Mens die"
bro, u've got the main point.!
end of the day, if wanna play must accept to loose as well.
unlike those PiiChais who plays on a different league but i think we SG guys still have long way to go before attaining this status.. so meantime.. money is only way to your REEL Love..
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Old 25-05-2004, 10:24 AM
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Re: Stephen Leather's Private Dancer

Haha....make love like rabbits...rub noses like eskimos...I like your posts.

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Been away from my favourite forum for awhile, busy with work and all that. A BIG HELLO to all Bros.

WOW! This thread still going strong, took me a long time to catch up (although its mostly the same issues and the same nice guys still giving out the same advice). Aiyah, bring your wallet and leave your heart at home ler. Easier said than done eh?

Just got back from an unexpected visit to Bangkok. Got together with a TG from cupidy MP I met there on my last trip, which seemed like ages ago...wow, she still has those awesome big neh-neh, she more expensive now, magazine model or something like that, no more in Cupidy. We ate like pig, drank like fish, party like animals and fuck like rabbits for 3 days straight. She said best "holiday" she ever had...heh heh...me too tirak...me too . When I was due to go home, she said "U call if u come to bkk again, let's holiday together". Smile, hug, rub nose like eskimo, board flight with big smile (and tinge of sadness).

I had a point to make when i started this post, but I am rather distracted now remembering her sexy figure and her awesome appetites. Oh, rite! Tis all about vibes bros. I noticed when I go out to entertain or cheong with friends that there are some men and women who seem to get all the luck in the buyer-seller relationships, and some who always seem to get all the raw deals.

But it all goes well when the right vibes are sent out...usually the initiative must be taken by the buyer. What is the right vibe? It's the "I have some money, you have some time and what I want...let's forget the world exists...for a short while..and have loads of fun" vibe.

Leave your heart at home bros. I know its easier said than done, especially when you are young and full of fire and the desire to love and be loved. Love is for that special girl you set your eyes on at home, not for the sex worker abroad while u r on holiday. If you wanna play in LOS, you must control your tender side and let loose your wild side. Be the D-evil.

P.S Know that you are not the only one, you will never be the only one. Realise that if you are not paying money...then the price is too high. Working Girls are just that, if you bring emotions into the deal, you will only receive pain in the end. And this is barring those special cases, and believe us when we tell you, they are few and far between.
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Old 25-05-2004, 11:00 PM
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Re: Stephen Leather's Private Dancer

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Just my own personal views:

"Cheonging" is NOT throw money and the girl takes it up and bonks with the guy. "Cheonging" is courting the girl into bed and preferably with minimum cost or no cost at all.
I think cheonging is like fake kum cheng,u fake she believe,u win.Thats the art of cheonging.
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Old 26-05-2004, 11:50 AM
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again its the problem with guys and their ego at times. knowing that pay can get u wat juz isn't enuff lor. sometimes juz want to "kao" a TG so that can say - look! she's in it for love, no $$. but it becomes scary if the relationship really develops and she demand more and more from it. eg, time and commitment. if we are attached or married, can we afford it?

its always the case of trying to eat the forbidden fruit. haizzzz...
Tirak69,

There is no such think as love without money. Love first than come the money part. I always pay although my TG love me very much and never demand for it. Its now 6 year n still going strong. But coming to an end very soon...sigh......
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Re: Stephen Leather's Private Dancer

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For newbie they tend to be confused. Maybe this is also a learning curve for the 'art of cheonging'. Haha...
Even some lao jiao often fall into the trap when they think they are "more" experience..
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Re: Stephen Leather's Private Dancer

This thread is just like a broken record. It repeats itself again and again and again........
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We r human beings afterall...haiz...
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Tirak69,

There is no such think as love without money. Love first than come the money part. I always pay although my TG love me very much and never demand for it. Its now 6 year n still going strong. But coming to an end very soon...sigh......
Dude thats really a heavy 'investment' of time.
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Re: Stephen Leather's Private Dancer

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I had a point to make when i started this post, but I am rather distracted now remembering her sexy figure and her awesome appetites. Oh, rite! Tis all about vibes bros. I noticed when I go out to entertain or cheong with friends that there are some men and women who seem to get all the luck in the buyer-seller relationships, and some who always seem to get all the raw deals.

But it all goes well when the right vibes are sent out...usually the initiative must be taken by the buyer. What is the right vibe? It's the "I have some money, you have some time and what I want...let's forget the world exists...for a short while..and have loads of fun" vibe.

Leave your heart at home bros. I know its easier said than done, especially when you are young and full of fire and the desire to love and be loved. Love is for that special girl you set your eyes on at home, not for the sex worker abroad while u r on holiday. If you wanna play in LOS, you must control your tender side and let loose your wild side. Be the D-evil.

P.S Know that you are not the only one, you will never be the only one. Realise that if you are not paying money...then the price is too high. Working Girls are just that, if you bring emotions into the deal, you will only receive pain in the end. And this is barring those special cases, and believe us when we tell you, they are few and far between.
There are just cheongster that don't listen to advise like that. They think that spending two days in a hotel is "in love". They start to fantasies about the future. Like getting married, live in a 4 room HDB and have 2 kids together.

Wake up, bros. The first obstacles you are going to face is your parents. As most Singapore older generation frown upon Thai girl due to their reputation in GL. Second obstacles is applying PR for you TG wife. I can tell you it is no joy ride. They will make you apply like 5 times before they approved. Thirdly, keeping her happy in Singapore. As they are alone and speak very english, it is hard for them to be integrate into our society.

I do not have Thai wife but still a foreign wife( sorry, not going to reveal nationality). I have to work double hard to maintain the relationship.

Just remember this. We go LOS to have fun not to get involve. I know we are all human and have feeling but you need a clear head that this is not going to work out.
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