I get a sense that people seems to misinterpret vanilla ML as ok to do less at same price. To older readers it just means no blowjob, period. Gotta remind people, Tian Niu. Menu listed is considered vanilla. But what she delivers, top notch. For those who wish to accept that market has changed so we should lower the bar for vanilla ML, then here's what is happening now. Blowjob service up price. To be fair to TT, some already up price during CB simply because they blow while others don't. Like Piao Piao.
The Vanillas of old are FN just no BJ, BBBJ and FJ?
After all the complaints, continue to patronize or not?
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Haha, the tiny minority complaining here probably does not even make up any sizable portion of their client base, so yea, they will continue to do as they please because of the market situation, and people will still go. Market forces, can't do anything about it.
90mins is a long time, meaning you probably spend 45-60mins trying to small talk, which can be awkward if there is no chemistry and the ML can't massage. So ending earlier would psychologically not feel as bad for all those introverts and so they continue to patronize
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Naturally, most of us want to earn more and do less.
Hence, can’t fault the ladies.
Naturally, most of us want to get more for the least money we spent.
Hence, can’t fault the guys.
After all the complaints, continue to patronize or not?
Most of us know the answer. Singapore Lang
Good summary bro
Always about perspective
No point saying who taking advantage of the situation or who is overhyped
Every bro have their favorites and if they think is worth it then okay already
How unhappy we are as a small and not united group also cannot change market forces one
just an avenue to relax guys, not need to get overly upset just find alternatives if you don't like it its not that hard. tbh as long as WL slots are sufficiently full to their own kpi nobody is going to give a fk about your grievances. We just need to FR and highlight worth it or not. $$ is not the problem, its just if the service can match up.
btw i think comments here do have some small effect lah, just recently a ML told me her business plummeted after a series of bad reviews on forum. But took just 2 weeks to go back to normalcy.
Haha, the tiny minority complaining here probably does not even make up any sizable portion of their client base, so yea, they will continue to do as they please because of the market situation, and people will still go. Market forces, can't do anything about it.
90mins is a long time, meaning you probably spend 45-60mins trying to small talk, which can be awkward if there is no chemistry and the ML can't massage. So ending earlier would psychologically not feel as bad for all those introverts and so they continue to patronize
Well said. Someone can cheong for many years and feel that HJ and roam on outside is the best thing since sliced bread.
90m is great for genuine massage. I have only tried 90m once with the home based MLs and it wasn't so good, even though it was with one of my favourite gals. Better to fire and move on.
The Vanillas of old are FN just no BJ, BBBJ and FJ?
This term was kind of thrown out for ease of differentiating those whom don't list services like BJ as compared to those who does. As always, a double edged sword when we opt for convenience.
But yes, in general thats the gist. So the previous batch of Angel, Zhu Zhu, Xiao Xiao won't fall under vanilla. The Tian Niu, An Xin v2, Song Song are the vanilla flavours. Of course how far some bros can breach the threshold is not factored in. We purely use what was listed as the gauge. But in no way do we feel vanilla means us as customers should be more forgiving, judge them on a lower bar.
Even for vanilla, there are certain aspects of this service that will shine. The kind of stunts and service levels provided by this curreNt batch, sorry I rather keep my wallet healthy.
This term was kind of thrown out for ease of differentiating those whom don't list services like BJ as compared to those who does. As always, a double edged sword when we opt for convenience.
But yes, in general thats the gist. So the previous batch of Angel, Zhu Zhu, Xiao Xiao won't fall under vanilla. The Tian Niu, An Xin v2, Song Song are the vanilla flavours. Of course how far some bros can breach the threshold is not factored in. We purely use what was listed as the gauge. But in no way do we feel vanilla means us as customers should be more forgiving, judge them on a lower bar.
Damn i started thinking Vanilla is panties on and HJ only. This is how standards erode.
Looking at the current market, these MLs, Carrie, TT, whoever, are taking advantage of the lack of supply to push up the prices while providing sub-standard services, shortchange of time etc. They able to do because they know they have the power because most sillyporean bros are easily satisfied. They realize they are able to provide lesser and lesser for the same amount of price without much repercussion.
As much as we are here in this forum saying we should not go, boycott etc. They don't need us to survive, there are still many sillyporean bros every single day out there for them to chop. This trend will continue until new blood comes in.
Long gone are the days whereby there are top notch quality for us to choose every single day like Wawa, Hope, Lemon etc. Back then, we have a positive dilemma
Agree that it's all a matter of supply and demand. Without GL (and even Pertain) as a stable (regulated price) supply base, there are not much other convenient alternatives.
As long as there is excessive demand and supply shortage (not only in terms of ML/FL population but also on service offerings/quality), the price will continue to increase. The price increase also helps the ML/FL weed out the lower spending power customers and work on the higher ones which could more likely give them good tips.
For the high spending power customers, they might welcome the change as it could result in easier booking for their favourite MLs/FLs. Not forgetting that the travel ban has forced many of these higher population to be stuck locally.
So the golden question is: what can we do? Unfortunately, not much other than hope for GL and travel to resume. For a lower spending power customer, like me, it makes no sense to squeeze my wallet dry or to accept an unsatisfying service with the same cost.
So I chose not to be a carrot and look for some other hobbies/lifestyle for now.
Agree that it's all a matter of supply and demand. Without GL (and even Pertain) as a stable (regulated price) supply base, there are not much other convenient alternatives.
As long as there is excessive demand and supply shortage (not only in terms of ML/FL population but also on service offerings/quality), the price will continue to increase. The price increase also helps the ML/FL weed out the lower spending power customers and work on the higher ones which could more likely give them good tips.
For the high spending power customers, they might welcome the change as it could result in easier booking for their favourite MLs/FLs. Not forgetting that the travel ban has forced many of these higher population to be stuck locally.
So the golden question is: what can we do? Unfortunately, not much other than hope for GL and travel to resume. For a lower spending power customer, like me, it makes no sense to squeeze my wallet dry or to accept an unsatisfying service with the same cost.
So I chose not to be a carrot and look for some other hobbies/lifestyle for now.
When I first see the Trinity tag bestowed upon them I was speechless too. Perhaps it started out in jest but for readers with no knowledge how this tag was associated with the trio, they will likely assume is a solid trinity, like how we link trinity to other aspects..marvel/ dc comics trinity, football/basketball big 3.. and all the hyped FR for them only serves to mislead unsuspecting readers further.
I get a sense that people seems to misinterpret vanilla ML as ok to do less at same price. To older readers it just means no blowjob, period. Gotta remind people, Tian Niu. Menu listed is considered vanilla. But what she delivers, top notch. For those who wish to accept that market has changed so we should lower the bar for vanilla ML, then here's what is happening now. Blowjob service up price. To be fair to TT, some already up price during CB simply because they blow while others don't. Like Piao Piao.
If I don't remember wrongly, the term Vanilla was first used by bro Franco or a few others. Can ask him what it is suppose to mean originally.
I take the meaning to be SN, no hardcore stuff like BJ, BF, AR. Dunno when it evolved till being fully clothed and chit chat service. Lol. Guess our own folks simply don't chiong for sex anymore, haha.
Now we supposed to read MRs with a bag of salt, don't you realized?
Anyone got contact for spa with good massage and solid HDLY? Best if can topup for full if got mood. To be honest the Massage Holy Trinity in SLG I also find a bit lacking.