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[NotMyRealName]

Ms C, from Fujian, 22 yrs old, come from a small town near NingDe, studied 3 yrs accountancy degree at Fuzhou University (专科 not 本科), and it was only later that I know that 4-years 本科 is higher than the 3-years type.


C is also 1.62m tall, 50kg, slightly 丰满, D size. Only now I realised that I have a certain preference to Fujian gal, which explains why my later attempts to look for fujian gal.

She worked as a book keeper for less than a year in Fuzhou, and then was jobless. Borrowed money and came to Singapore on KTV singer pass. The lounge she work as, only starts from 9:30pm, so she butterfly in KTV lounges at Peace ctr during the HH.

When I saw her, she is already in the fourth month of her singer pass permit, and she said that she only pushed door during the first month, and subsequent two months she didn't dare to because she has put on weight and her confidence was low. But no choice, she couldn't meet her target in her lounge and she has to pay fine, so she starts to push door again.

She came to SG with her best friend FF (same town, one street away, since primary school until Uni), but FF is posted by her SG agent to another lounge and stays in a different accommodation.

I've learnt that I shouldn't try to KC a gal with good friend, sisters who are also here in Singapore. They have a wider social circle and will check with each other for information or on how to get their guy to give up their money.

Ms C is a bit better, in that she felt that she needed help with her monthly lounge target, and she wants to learn a skill when she is back in China because she felt that she cannot do well using her accountancy degree can only get her a job of around 1.5k to 2.2k rmb.

For two months, Ms C and I got closer and I helped her with her lounge target via hanging flower. We didn't do it while she is here. When she got back, I arranged a trip to Xiamen and she was there to meet me.

[Rain-Men]

Bro...great stuff you are posting here. Absorbing the invaluable experience that you are imparting......

[wonderbeezz]

That is really informative!
Thanks bro

[NotMyRealName]

Originally Posted by Rain-Men

Bro...great stuff you are posting here. Absorbing the invaluable experience that you are imparting......

Thanks Bro Rain-Men.

Originally Posted by wonderbeezz

That is really informative!
Thanks bro

Thanks Bro wonderbeezz.

It gives me motivation to write my story.

[NotMyRealName]

By the time I go and visit Ms C in Xiamen in May 2011, I still have WF in SG but the feeling has waned and we hardly see each other like once in two weeks.

Anyway, back to Ms C. First time visiting a gal in China, and we choose Xiamen because I'm unfamiliar with Fuzhou where she lives with her cousin. Her sister is studying in a unversity in Xiamen, and her good friend FF also came. I though, hmm, three gals, but I did book two rooms, sigh so no hope for FFM.

We visited GuLangYu, the touristy little island very close to Xiamen and a huge botanical garden near JiMei of Xiamen. C is very sexy in red pajamas and we only had heavy petting and she wasn't very responsive nor proactive to my advances so I didn't move beyond 3rd base with her. Sigh. Stupid of me.

Anyway, short trip and over in 4 days. She and FF sent me to the airport and I promised to see her again in about two months.

[NotMyRealName]

Ms C and I agreed that I'll give her allowance of 6K RMB and she will live in Fuzhou and I'll probably visit her once every six or eight weeks. She will take up a nail-artist (is this the right term for 美甲) which she will take about 4 months to learn.

In one month, I've an opportunity to visit HangZhou for business and I asked her to join me there, plus I'll extend my stay in Shanghai and she can visit Shanghai for the first time as well. She asked if her sister can join us for the trip because her sister "Y" had never been outside of Fujian province and I said I'll book a room for her sister while C has to stay in our room. She said ok.

She and her sis join me in HangZhou, she was tired on her first night and I from the flight and meeting, she slept with her sister in the room I book for her sister. The next day, I told C that the second night she has to accompany me and she said why not she be in my room while in Shanghai. I relented.

We went to Shanghai on the 3rd day, and surprisingly it was windy and cool at about 17 degC while HangZhou was 28 DegC. We checked into the hotel, get our two rooms and C accompany me that night. Still, no success beyond 3rd base and she still wasn't very responsive to my touches or kisses. I asked her and she said give her time as she long time has not had sex.

I left Shanghai on my fifth day of the HangZhou-Shanghai trip while the sisters stayed another night to explore Shanghai. I heard from them that they enjoyed the exploration bit very much.

By the way, her sister Y is still in contact with me even after C and I broke-up but Y and I are just friends.

[NotMyRealName]

In June 2011, C message me urgently to say that her mother's back-ache had gone worse (she told me before that her mother suffers severe back ache) and cannot get down from bed. She asked me for money and I sent her 20k rmb. Her mother had an operation and C stayed in their old home town near NingDe for a month and this disrupts her 美甲training.

She went back to continue her training. She now said that her bed room with her cousin is now rented out by her cousin's husband and she wanted her own place. Instead of settling on a master-room, or a one-room apartment, she asked if she can get a two-bedroom apartment so that she can invite her friends over. I gave in and said ok. I think with hindsight, I gave in too much to her wants. The apartment costs 1.5K rmb, and now my allowance to her has been upped to 8.5k rmb. And her course fees are paid by me as well.

In the mean time until Nov 2011, I visited her in Fuzhou 3 times. Only the first time she came to the Fuzhou airport to fetch me. It coincide with her move from her cousin's place (she was sleeping on the sofa since the room was rented out to a family), buy household items from the nearby Carrefour and carry them to the new place (500m walk), help clean the place. Fortunately, we make out this time. Although, she is still very reactive, and despite her large D size breasts, she asked that I don't grab them or shake them as she felt dizzy when I did that. She also said that she has not much excitement from the insertion into her vagina and only felt stronger sensation when her clit area is touched rapidly. Until now, I still think that she is cool towards me because she doesn't really have strong feelings for me. I am just an ATM to her.

The next two trips, she had to attend training (although she can easily skip the training and pick up the training again another day) and I make my way to the apartment or from apartment to hotel.

She is lazy, she sleeps late like 1am, wakes up at 10am, doesn't buy breakfast, and she always qq chats on her phone even when we sat beside each other. I only told her that she is not paying attention on my second trip to Fuzhou and she promised she will pay more attention to me.

By my third and last trip to Fuzhou, she didn't improve in any area, either in responsiveness or tenderness towards me or in paying attention to me. I only felt heart warm once when she make lunch for me once. Other time, we call for food to be delivered.

After I came back, the last straw is she said despite her finished her nail training, she wants to open a nail beauty shop right away. I said she should build up a network of clients. She does not listen. She wants to make more money fast and she stubbornly thinks that just open a shop and it will make money. I tried my best to tell her in the nicest way that it doesn't work that way. Summing up my not-so-good memories with her, she has gone from attentive and nice while she was in Singapore to colder-and-colder attitude when she is back in Fuzhou, I told her we are not suitable for each other.

That's the end with C. She opened a tabacco and wine shop with two of her friends and learnt the lesson that good friends cannot be good biz partners plus opening a shop doesn't guarantee success. Then she turned to be married to guy from her old home town and they lived with her parents.

My lessons learnt this round, I'll share in the next post.

[NotMyRealName]

After the boayang of C, my lessons learnt are:

1. Make your intention known earlier. You want to have her, have her while in SG, taste the good.

2. Trust your instinct and logic, if you is not warm towards you while you're there. Don't spend anymore time or money with her.

3. Don't try to advice them too much, if they are young and unexposed to the harshness to the reality of work-life-business, all your energy spent on worrying for them is wasted in the end.

4. Baoyang in China is possible, even an ex-singer that came to SG before, at a budget of below 10k rmb.

C's friend - let's call her B, a lady at her same age and same qualifications, works in PCB design and travels abit in and around China, going to HangZhou, ShenZhen, Shanghai, and she is paid salary of about 5k RMB. B is articulate and dresses well because of her work exposure which deals with other professionals/engineers. To me, I regret not knowing B earlier than C because I sensed that B likes me, although at that time B has a PRC BF. C's other friend, FF, has came to Singapore a second round using singer permit, and FF had asked me before how much allowance I gave to C, FF was surprised C didn't give me full attention or pick me up from Airport etc, and FF said if she has a BF that give her 7k rmb a month, she will be very grateful and take good care of the BF. Btw, B, C, and FF are all from the same small town near NingDe.

[NotMyRealName]

After break-up with C, I had two other singers consecutively as GF but for very short time a month or two. Their demand are higher, like S$2.5k or S$3k. When they went back, this allowance amount plus my travel/hotel cost means at least S$3k+ each month on average.

I find that young gal and singer type means they are exposed to the high amount of money as they have seemed other singer take care by very rich guys.

So I changed my thinking, why only tackle singer who came to Singapore, let's go to the source and try to baoyang a PRC gal in PRC.

[NotMyRealName]

I think it will be last few more posts about past baoyees. This few rounds are 2 PRC gals who are in China, i.e. they are based there and never been here.

Side track a bit. There are a lot of China shangban (商伴） website, most are run by small syndicates or a boss/boss-lady have girls/contacts and they keep changing their photos (either real or copied from other websites) and they send whoever available to your hotel. After I tried 3x with these sites, I gave up and these gals are pro, they have seen all kind and they will talk to try and wring additional tips from you.

Back on track, out of the many China qingren （情人）website, if you have the patience to sieve through them, there are a few that are operated by more professionally-minded company or people. I register to three of them and surf the site for couple of months. Although these sites are better run, they cannot filter out gals/syndicates that pose as potential baoyee and then bring you to cafes/pub which they have arrangement to make you pay an inflated drinks/dinner bill which they'll split between themselves and the cafe/pub, or they ask you to transfer money for them to buy air-ticket/train-ticket for them to go and meet you but you know they'll disappear and come back on-line with new ID.

[NotMyRealName]

Found that there are many gals in China are open to be baoyee, and some goes for money+KC, some for KC+money, some for Money and they'll pretend to give you KC, they state quite openly or just add QQ and ask each other directly but not rudely.

They are less open for sugar-dad from overseas or across different cities although a few is open to meet once a month if you 出差 meaning you visit her city for work regularly, and some prefers it that way so that the chances of them being found out is less.

The site has minimum age at 18, although there were gals that put that age, but are actually just 17, once I almost tempted to chat further with one such girl from GuangDong, bust after her opening asking monthly allowance of 30k rmb and a rental apartment and a car, I backed out very quickly since it's way out of my budget. Later, she must have found out that no man will meet that price that she backed down to I think 20k rmb and a rental apartment but that's another story.

Many targets and chats later, after a month plus, I settled on two potentials, one backed-out because she was unsure about becoming baoyee after all and I didn't pursue. Left one finance graduate JiangSu lady working as customer service manager for a stock-broking firm in Xiamen, 23 yrs old. She can read English easily. She asks for 10k rmb a month. Can meet anytime weekday or weekend. Chatting online with her for two months, she said early on that I sounded cultured and she is okay to meet up. I arranged to fly to Xiamen and she will meet me at the airport.

[12121212]

Great sharing...continue pls TS

[studdyme]

camping for more!

[NotMyRealName]

Sorry, I've to go back one step to say about one of the two singer girls, M, she comes from Fujian as well, like Ms C. But her place is even more ulu. She lost her dad when she is young. Her mom brought her elder sister, M, and a younger sister, and twin brothers to FuAn town. She didn't finish lower secondary and the highest educated is her young twin brothers currently in high secondary.

M is not very articulate, 26 yrs old, worked as factory worker and clothes stall and 7-11 type convenience store cashier. She has very sweet face, good height at 1.65m, good figures and C boobs. However, talking with her is much difficult because she education is low. I sometimes felt like talking to a secondary school student literally.

She was here on singer pass but do not need to sing at her company/pub. But barely here one month, one of the lady of her batch was caught prostituting in a hotel raid by anti-vice and her batch of eight girls who came here on singer pass were all cancelled and sent back.

When she go back, she laments that she has to settle her debt that she incurred when she borrowed to pay the agent fee, about 25k rmb. She went to walk in KTV joints in PuTian and GuangZhou to try and earn money to repay her debt. She said she don't sleep with people.

I offered to help her in her debt and she said she wants me to be her BF, and asked to meet me after I sent her the money. I took a chance since she is simple minded which didn't turn out to be false, unlike most cases. She asked for monthly allowance of 5k rmb and she said once she settled in her regular job, she doesn't need money from me.

So we arranged to meet 14 days after CNY in ShenZhen. I asked her to talk a flight and she said no, she will take long distance bus as it cost less.

We met at my hotel lobby and we had sex 3 times. I realise later that she and I totally cannot communicate, while she always think and worry about daily living and her mom, sister and brothers (eldest sister is married) and being put down by her aunt who came to her family's rented apartment to say how the aunt's family is and how filial her cousin is to help pay for down payment for her aunt's apartment, basically show off. It puts her down in mood for at least two weeks.

I told her I get GF to share my worries, but every other day she doesn't say anything of interest to me. And then one day, she said she had to travel back to her old home village to help her grandfather (mom's side) to pick tea-leaves. She arrived there and we chatted once a day because her phone sometimes no signal in the mountainous area.

But suddenly, there is nothing for 10 weeks. In between, I called her phone and no signal, sent countless sms, call her younger sister and sms her younger sister, all I got from them once in a long while is that she is with her grandfather.

I don't want to wait so long so I looked on the qingren website and shortlisted the two girls. Arranged to meet the first one that responded, i.e. the customer relationship manager from the stockbroking firm.

Well, eventually, on my second day in Xiamen after I consummated with the new girl, R, suddenly M sms me to say she is on a long-distance-bus and on the way back to FuAn. I didn't reply and only on the last day in Xiamen that I sms reply her that we are through, that we had a pact that she message me every day and she broke it. She said sorry, her sim out of money, and I said if she tried, she can get to nearest town to top up and sms me. She has no reply. She herself felt 委屈，I said this is a relationship that need her to work at it. She said give her a chance. I told her I gave her a chance for 10 weeks, it's more than I can take. From then on, I ignored her. But M returns on another episode to try to get me to sponsor her again, more on M a few posts later.

[NotMyRealName]

Back to the Xiamen meet-up with Ms Z. She had two previous arranged meet-up where the guys didn't turn up. And my plane was late, and she doesn't exactly match her on-line photo, 80% match lah.

So when I called her after I couldn't find her, she appeared in front of me and I recognised that I had passed her once after I walk through the checkpoint and walking around to locate her.

She talks well, graduated from a Sichuan university 本科, we went in a cab to my pre-booked hotel. After she entered my room, I passed her a small gift and she cried, joyfully. She said she was disappointed with all the failed meet-ups and her family needed money to settle debt (familiar story) because her father and elder brother back in her village home borrowed money to buy certain plant seeds but the sale price for the finished product was lower than the cost and they suffered huge loss to the tune of 300k rmb. She is not asking for help with the debt itself, but offer herself as baoyee at 10k rmb a month.

I agreed and passed her the money rightaway, she said how come I accepted her (in my mind, I think I already made the trip, might as well have her stay-in to accompany me, if it doesn't work out, so be it), I said let's try it out, she said she wants long term relationship and not a per trip per session arrangement, I said ok. We had sex several times and she is very responsive, shouting laogong and very easily aroused and climaxed.

Her character is between sunny and dark, so sometimes she can say nice and sweet things, and sometimes she is defensive and sharp in her sms/qq response. But, the trip was great and we both enjoyed ourselves. She said she cannot wait for my next visit. She keeps bugging me on qq when can I go see her, as she felt even more lonely after having met me and had such a good time that after I left, she felt worse.

I think what the hell, this sort of baoyee got a lot of KC demand. Secondly, she confided that she had waited for a rich guy who she has not met, but the guy is a rich businessman featured on JiangSu provincial TV and newspapers, and sent his driver to bring money to her village home to pass to her father and brother despite not having met her. They only chatted on phone/qq. But that guy was diagnosed with cancer and had to be hospitalised and his wife is accompanying him for six months at the hospital so she has not heard about arrangement for her to relocate to that guy's subsidiary company which he had promised.

I don't like to be compared. I think her sunny/dark mood switch it is a signal that she is emotional. And, she wasn't that great looking. I said I wish her the best and that guy she is waiting for will contact her to give her a better life.

I saw her ad post appeared on the qingren website for at least 3 months and then her ID gone silent. That's the end of story with Z.