Safe to travel alone with PRC GF back to China?

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Originally Posted by shanshen

Dear Bro DO_YOU_BJ ,

Read through yr life experience with great interest. Although my life isnt that glamorous as yours, (sigh!) u r de man, having 3 mistress and each knowing each other.

We all knows that tellilng white lies to get out of awkard situation is a way of life and everyone uses it. Those WL or KTV gals are here to money and once they made enough, the intelligent one knows how to invest their savings by buying houses back home or setting up retails shops. Some just go for easy money and think of landing a guy to feed them.

Given your status and KC experience, I wonder why u want to put her through a test by lying u r broke and allowing her go back to her old trade, knowing that as a KTV gal, she needs to sell her bodies to made lots of monies to keep up her previous life style. Just depending on tips along will not be able to feed her. You have unknowing put her in a state of unsecure mentality. Which honest man wants to live off a gals immoral earning?
This is normal and if I am a WL and my man is living of my immoral earnings, and if one comes along who is willing to take care of me..why not give it a try?

since u hve set up that mentality in her, she is feeling insecure as she thought u are broke and she would like to think of whether she has a future with you... so u convenient let her get back to a situation where she has to entertain many guys at nite and as a seasoned cheongster, we know that when one falls into the KC trap and the gal find him as good enough fish to bait, she goes for it, especially if that guy is showering her with love and care and maybe better than you leh (either being single or married with no mistress). That may sway her decision to go with that guy instead for a better future..PRC girls are very materialistic..

Bro, just my view and expressing out my thoughts the way i read into it.
Me too have similar short term relationship with PRC gals before but I am the one who always take the iniitiative to break up after i get tired of it. me hurt? to say no is a lie, yes i do feel miserable initially but it goes away in a matter of weeks.. hve not experience your level of miserable feelings yet..guess my feeling are not as deep as your involvement as I am into it just for the fun of it and get some real life experience of it.

No offence Bro, just speaking from my heart

Dear Shan Shan no offense taken......
When i got this chick, as per my sifu, YES, she's the 4th.....honestly then, i was delighted...in a way, it's the end...i can call it quits & full time keep these 4 wives by my side as be contended.
Problem here is this.....trust.....i for one, do not trust anyone...even my wives need to work very hard in order for me to give them 90% of my total trust......
Look, from the time i knew her here, the lying already started.......
After the 1st call that she received in the hotel coffee house, i already smell a rat but my emotions took the better of me.....
Yes, I had feelings for her, tot she was carrying my kid........I actually ask her, if you hv other strings...we part....if you want me then cut all strings....it's obvious wat her answer was......well one week later, she disappeared for a week...........

As time goes along, the doubts become sooo strong that no matter how you try to lie or cheat yourself, it just cant go in anymore.........i noticed something also.....things spoken or watever, can be forgotten in just a day......something fishy as well..........shows how unimportant things can be.....

Last, why did i tell her i'm broke.....well, i had 2 choices......1, be a carrot head that i am not & will never be......or play her game.......I chose the latter.........the ultimate test..........

2 days before she went back, we went to Labrador park......a place we go on many occasions to see the sunrise...damn romantic rite...hehehehe
Anyway, on the very nite, it started to rain....so we headed to that budget hotel by mount faber, cant remember the name liao.......
Anyways, we were so loving then, iremoved her top, ok...when i wanna pull down her pants...she stopped me????? I was like WTF........she said if you truely luv n want me...cum chengdu n look for me..................i tot then, ok to profess my true love for you....ok lor....didn't think any further.......

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Before i continue, i remembered some stuff..........so i'll pen it down & i'm sure it'll give the case of DOUBT a stronger sense.....

The day I went up, we moved to the new place...whilst they were unpacking, i saw a Royal Crown Plaza Chengdu paper bag...it still looked so new........i then remarked...this hotel nice to stay or not......caught her off guard and she actually replied...not as good as the 6star u always stay, then changed to say she got the bag when she went to buy mookcakes a few months back........ok but how u know the hotel not that nice unless you've stayed there???????? Matter kiv in the mind......but facial expression on me very calm...........
Few days later, i was searching for something...so i ended up at the toilet downstairs, a place that i hardly use and when i opened the cabinet, i saw it, Royal Crown Plaza Chengdu facial cleansing sponge, still in the box.........ya buy mookcake can get cleansing sponge........she was upstairs and didnt know.....i called her mom......Loa Ma, where this come from, oh, my daughter gave to me.....oh how many you got, she brought me to her room......not knowing wat was goin on, opened her vanity drawer, there were 5 more in there............being someone that flies often and stay in hotels, i know there's no other way to get these unless you stay there........asked her when she got it, Oh, i tink about a month after she came back...........a month after she came back was close to the disappearance of 1 week....................Here's 1

One day before she went back, we had an agreement, 9-3 you're not mine.......3-9 you're mine............that nite, she never called me at all......called her but no answer. Then i decided to call her bedmate, the one wif the 3 phones.....it was 4am.....well she picked up, obviously voice damn stone and i asked, eh, where's your neighbour, her phone spoil cannot get through..............she then passed the phone to her obviously stone stone as well and i told her your phone spoil cannot call in....nvrmind, go sleep, call me when u wake up tmr here's 2

Last one i recalled, one day, we were together during late afternoon, discussed where to go for dinner then head straight to her working place as i was goin there as well...........then a call came...she marikita again.......after that call, she said a customer called her for dinner...i said ok but we made plans liao, cant you shift that to another day..........SEND ME HOME! She alighted walked off and ner looked back to gesture bye or anything.........this happened exactly before connecting to the story above of not calling me.
Imagine, i dunno whether to then, drive forward and knock her ass down or drive off in the wierdest feeling of no status of my life..................and FYI, she never appeared for work that entire day as i was there till 330am

[DO_YOU_BJ]

The most unforgettable thing happened the nite before the abortion.......we were in the hotel room and she was acting really strange...smsing non stop....and very withdrawn.....then suddenly an outburst came...i must abort this baby.....i dun wan it....no no......i cant....i said relax, we've gone thru this already...you were happy why suddenly so stressed out.....she then started to whack her own tummy....many many times....it was hard...could hear the thumping.....man, i wouldnt even hit myself like that...the pregnancy obviously is stressing her out....and not so simple..........can see from her eyes she's really desperate........

Ok, here's what my 3rd mistress told me that fixed the puzzle without a benefit of a doubt............

Seems like a trend and i know her style........when she goes out to be a whore...she'll come back...shower and sleep immediately and forget about what just happened cos tmr will be a new day again........remember i mentioned the time in s'pore when she didnt even go to work and didnt call me that nite and also the case when she said when she went to her granpa's bday came back showered wore clothes and slept..........makes darn good sense.

She started telling me, after the 1st incident in the resort hotel, she knows you're a very sensitive guy, that's why that nite at mount faber, she refused to let you penetrate......cos if i was the other regular guy, i'll be farking as her much as i can before she goes back.....damn, makes good sense again......and if she allowed me to penetrate, again cat will be out of the bag

At the motherland, she disappeared for a week, obvious beyond a benefit of a doubt that she was next to someone all the while..........also the abortion....she said that she already knows she preggers.....no doubt about it but she cant determine who's baby is it? This scares her bigtime......she prolly told her friends and all agreed that this baby had to go...too risky......Y...she knows the other dude or dudes F her and prolly give her maintainance or paid her and they're just in for the fark n if she tells any of them, they'll prolly say hey, you 1st time in this line is it??? Not my prob.......
If she pops the baby, and i accept it and DNA results shows it aint mine...she also farked...she'll be left wif an additional baggage for the rest of her life........

Why did she allow me to anal her???? Lao Gong, she's also in luv wif you...that's the only way she can proove it, to give up the only thing that has not been taken from her yet.............or has it?

All these while, when you chat wif her, you called the house number.....it's obvious now she has 2 numbers since you caught her when she came back, and when you go up, she only carries 1 phone and hides the other....imagine if you were one of the strings, you also wont be stupid....sooner or later, you'll also give up on her and find new blood..........that's what happened to her........that why she wanted the RMB250k...i believe this is her min amt to be on hand at all times to feel secure.......when all the strings left, she was only left wif you...yes you're her so called "MAN" but monetary wise, she is in distress
Of cos, you can say that you're giving her a comfortable life and such but by knowing her, her min expections are very high...she knows you got $$$$$ but also knows that you're a very stingy man.......and when tok about money, you'll change mode into the businessman you are..........so the only way is to try to make you give....which you didnt

She wanted to come back to see for herself how true it was that you're broke....and in the meantime, continue to get more strings before she goes back....she was never convinced...though you tried very hard....so there was a mind battle within her so as to ascertain that you were really broke......she must have gotten very tired of this internal battle that she finally called it quits....the call from home was actually a ploy...pre-arranged so that it can give her a grand exit.......without your suspicion
Remember the times you wanted to break up wif her, why did she cry & beg you not to go if you...well cos that's her heart talking...........the day she came back cold.....said here to take luggage.........that was her brain talking. Remember wat your sifu said about this person, she's got kinda like a split personality.......you fell for the real her...but the other person was & is stronger..........that's why u always say say before work, she's 1 person, after work, she's another...............quite difficult to live like that also.........

That's typical of the typical tricks PRCs use........but one thing she has learnt which me and big sis already knew long ago...is that, you're not so simple lor.....you always act but you're always scheming as well........she forgot your very nature and that was her downfall............

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Actually, since the time she went back, i've been telling her to start a small biz, i sponsor.......but till the day she came back...she never talked about it. Everytime i asked her, she just reply i'll think about it...guess this person wants everything easy........

[otur]

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

Before i continue, i remembered some stuff

bro, i might get zap for saying this but i just felt like saying la. in the spirit of sharing views.
in the 1st place dose this gal noe u already hv family n 2 other v close gals? if so, what make u think that u deserved her whole heartedly? u urself make a good example of having 3 woman (including wife) and family. just cos u have lot of money? PRC WL also human leh. normal kv sianing game in ktv all of us played. those r just short term with no strings after a while. agreed? here u r seeking a long term relationship. what makes u think any woman on earth will tolerate a man like u? consider yrself bery lucky that u not onli met 1, not 2, but 3!! so i guess what yr 师傅 said is valid. u r to pay back.
honestly i envy n jealous over your situation n capability. but that dosent mean i agreed with yr doing n actually i do think u deserve some form of punishment since life hv been so great n smooth for u. in yr killing games i not sure how many gal's heart were broken. but sure have some. so i guess no point for u to think abt her anymore. just move on.


as for TS the situation is diff la. he is single n sincere in planning a settle down. even if its a sg gal, wat make u think will not get conned? chances lesses cos sg ppl have better standard of living. not new that wives seeing o bf after marriage as well. right? and we man also F around after we married. so whats the big deal?

as i mention i m also facing some issue in my own marriage n abt to be a free man very soon. i too have a very deep kc with a prc gal. sometimes when i call her n mention abt this, she told me, when u come visit me i will accompany u no matter i married already or not. but i will not married u. cos of the plateform we knew each other. someday when we have argument u will remeber the pass n i dun wish u to mention it to me. what she mean i also dun understand. or rather i refused to understand. hahaha

back to TS, my advice for u is to take good care of your money. u can spend on her but progressively. do not over paint the picture of your wealth, in fact should mention lesser then wat u have. in that way she will ot demand n u can see true color if she is out for money.

back to the kc gal i mention above. there were occassions where i was so broke that she actually paid for the 81 charges n even the CD look at my signature u noe why. me gambler.

i come here tcss kpkb also i dunno wat i toking liao. who ever like my post can up me la hahaha

[azzaro23]

Originally Posted by otur

as for TS the situation is diff la. he is single n sincere in planning a settle down. even if its a sg gal, wat make u think will not get conned? chances lesses cos sg ppl have better standard of living. not new that wives seeing o bf after marriage as well. right? and we man also F around after we married. so whats the big deal?

back to TS, my advice for u is to take good care of your money. u can spend on her but progressively. do not over paint the picture of your wealth, in fact should mention lesser then wat u have. in that way she will ot demand n u can see true color if she is out for money.

Thanks fr yr advice I have already told her how much I am earning on a monthly basis, no doubt once in a blue moon she complain that I am not earning enough but that due to her fustration for not able to send her dad for medical treatment which i verified in person it if truth when I was there.

I also did a breakdown in terms of my spending and what I can give her and what i can save for the time being in black & white and on the surface she can accept it.

So maybe like what u & other bros say time will reveal what she is like....

[DO_YOU_BJ]

bro, i might get zap for saying this but i just felt like saying la. in the spirit of sharing views.
No bro, i dun zap people........wats the point hahahaha

in the 1st place dose this gal noe u already hv family n 2 other v close gals? if so, what make u think that u deserved her whole heartedly?
Yes she knows, that's one thing i'm always proud of, i always tell in advance I have how many wives blah blah....so i nvr lie to anyone to be wif me and she has also mentioned to me clearly that i rather be a mistress & be loved than to be a 1st wife and ignored.......asked her if she's not happy wif my situation, she says it's absolutely acceptable to her

u urself make a good example of having 3 woman (including wife) and family. just cos u have lot of money?
Eh bro, tink it has nottin to do with $$$$ cos i also never tot i'll have so many women in my life

PRC WL also human leh. normal kv sianing game in ktv all of us played. those r just short term with no strings after a while. agreed?Agree

here u r seeking a long term relationship.Actually it started as a fling which i mentioned earlier that she was supposed to become another kill in my scorecard.....didnt expect it to turn hahaha

what makes u think any woman on earth will tolerate a man like u? consider yrself bery lucky that u not onli met 1, not 2, but 3!! so i guess what yr 师傅 said is valid. u r to pay back. There are such women bro, not little actually, just not paraded around and often well kept secrets. If you're in the circle, you'll know

honestly i envy n jealous over your situation n capability. but that dosent mean i agreed with yr doing n actually i do think u deserve some form of punishment since life hv been so great n smooth for u. in yr killing games i not sure how many gal's heart were broken. but sure have some. so i guess no point for u to think abt her anymore. just move on.
You're rite bro, actually all you mentioned i have posted...she's my karma...and i accept it...and yes, the number of hearts i've broken...wow....some changed joints, some went back & never returned and so on.....I know.....but almost all invested in me......like the KC trap, but only thing is, i'm the one trapping them.....but not much monetary gain lah.....hahaha
I hv of cos moved on, now with a singer from DC.......she's a memory and hope she stays that way.....

[shanshen]

Bro DO_U_BJ,

i agree with what Bro Otor had said,

no girl would want to commit herself to a guy with so many women in his life.
she may have already heard of your reputation from those working in this line and like you, playing a mind game with you.

As u mentined, no monthly maintenance money was involved, so why must she be committed to you? while u still play the KC game with others? How can u claim her to be yours if no monthly maintenance money is given. unless she takes the money, than a verbal contract is sign that she is yours and u can check on her.. If not, she is free to live her life..

Put your self in her situation...

I am not saying what you do is wrong, I am just trying to get u see the situation from that girl side and her motive..hopefully this can help you feel better and completely recover from your misery..

u hve met your nemesis in terms of mind games and she played it well..

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Originally Posted by shanshen

Bro DO_U_BJ,

i agree with what Bro Otor had said,

no girl would want to commit herself to a guy with so many women in his life.
she may have already heard of your reputation from those working in this line and like you, playing a mind game with you.

As u mentined, no monthly maintenance money was involved, so why must she be committed to you? while u still play the KC game with others? How can u claim her to be yours if no monthly maintenance money is given. unless she takes the money, than a verbal contract is sign that she is yours and u can check on her.. If not, she is free to live her life..

Put your self in her situation...

I am not saying what you do is wrong, I am just trying to get u see the situation from that girl side and her motive..hopefully this can help you feel better and completely recover from your misery..

u hve met your nemesis in terms of mind games and she played it well..

Bro Shanshen, if wat i did was wat you said, then of course you're right...
If you read back, I actually give her SGD5,000.00 or RMB25,000.00 per month....so now that's different ya
And yes, agree wif your last statement, i did find my match

[durex]

this thread still so hot and crowded...
its a evergreen topic

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Originally Posted by shanshen

Bro DO_U_BJ,

she may have already heard of your reputation from those working in this line and like you, playing a mind game with you.

Yes, she sure has, from wat i remember, we had this conversation several times throughout the time we were together.........her pal, the one wif the 3 phones always told her to stay away from me cos of my rep...also she told me 5 other friends kinda shun away from her after she left for home....see, the 7 made a pact to come here, earn as much as they can in a year, go home and never come back, becos of her leaving because of me, they stopped contacting her...they also persuaded her to leave me....she says she knows what they're saying but dunno why she's just so drawn & attracted to me.......again this is what she says la......true or not, only she will know......

[Heart Break Kid]

Originally Posted by durex

this thread still so hot and crowded...
its a evergreen topic

It is because they did not give up the pursue of true love with PRC WL

[shanshen]

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

Bro Shanshen, if wat i did was wat you said, then of course you're right...
If you read back, I actually give her SGD5,000.00 or RMB25,000.00 per month....so now that's different ya
And yes, agree wif your last statement, i did find my match

Sorry, i may have missed that part that u give her $5000 per month.
In that case, she has to follow the "Jian Hu" laws. How long was she with you?

U mentioned that u r now into a singer from DC. I think that's a better
and safer game to play as most singers dont bed guys easily. Once u "pao" her by helping her to meet her monthly quota, she is yours to play and most likely, she wont go for other guys. Their activity are so much cleaner than in KTV joints as patrons to HFJ dont rubba rubba them in the common area. haha. meaning no buaya hands all over them unlke KTV joints..

Read the HangFowerJont tread, u find many stories there on singers. http://sammy.services/health-centre-ktv-lounge-tangos/47710-hanging-flowers-joints.html

Wish u well, Bro.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Originally Posted by shanshen

Sorry, i may have missed that part that u give her $5000 per month.
In that case, she has to follow the "Jian Hu" laws. How long was she with you?

U mentioned that u r now into a singer from DC. I think that's a better
and safer game to play as most singers dont bed guys easily. Once u "pao" her by helping her to meet her monthly quota, she is yours to play and most likely, she wont go for other guys. Their activity are so much cleaner than in KTV joints as patrons to HFJ dont rubba rubba them in the common area. haha. meaning no buaya hands all over them unlke KTV joints..

Read the HangFowerJont tread, u find many stories there on singers. http://sammy.services/health-centre-ktv-lounge-tangos/47710-hanging-flowers-joints.html

Wish u well, Bro.

Bro, i stand corrected....actually, singers are the dirtiest of the lot...the one who was wif me was a singer........and nope, i never use this quote becos she's one...it's just a plain fact
The GROs are actually......and many old timers will know that, are the ones who decide who & who not to bed wif.........whereas the singers, whoever hangs more, eats the meat........or all get a piece of it.......they dun have a choice
I have stopped playing GROs years and have moved to HFJ for many years now........
Becos they got a quota to meet, may I remind you of the split between company & them.........after the split, they actually earn less or about the same as a GRO
Actually, Singers are easiest to bed, just hang..of cos not the puny 1-500 flowers and 99% she's bed you.......the singers are actually most realistic of the lot.....and in my experience, the smarter ones...the GROs on the otherhand, well they come as sidedish to me hehehehe

That's why i mentioned earlier, some things here cannot be revealed for once that happens, all those nite scene regulars are sure to know who's the who & what KTV was involved..........

Incase you didn't know, i have an illness as some old timers here who knows me know.......I'm addicted to hanging flowers......but i only frequent the more top end ones.....some of those that was mentioned in the HFJs have been there, not my kinda tea and crowd.......and if i tell you how much i hang a month, some may even start to flame me liao...well...

Also, i do not know how old are you or how long have you been chionging but your post tell me that your career in HFJ has not been long.........remember, a singer may not openly accept an offer to overnight....and no hanky panky in the KTV as well but that doesn't mean you cannot 卖场and bao her dinner thru supper thru breakfast......singers, if you can measure on how realistic they are, they tend to be the ELITE!
Of cos, if you bao those cannot make it one no flowers, this type cheap cheap oso can onz liao.......how else can they maintain the money coming in????????? The GROs dun need to do that..........I've yet to meet a singer i cant bed to date!
Whereas, i've come across GROs that even after offering 5k, still wont let you screw.......

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Sorry, i may have missed that part that u give her $5000 per month.
In that case, she has to follow the "Jian Hu" laws. How long was she with you?7mths

U mentioned that u r now into a singer from DC. I think that's a better
and safer game to play as most singers dont bed guys easily. Once u "pao" her by helping her to meet her monthly quota, she is yours to play and most likely, she wont go for other guys. Their activity are so much cleaner than in KTV joints as patrons to HFJ dont rubba rubba them in the common area. haha. meaning no buaya hands all over them unlke KTV joints..

Read the HangFowerJont tread, u find many stories there on singers.
I have read that thread, and i think only bro flowerfool will know my true identity.......lets just say that the bros in that thread and me hang flowers differently and we're on a different budget of play....no offense to anyone........Just commenting on what was posted, how much was spent & how the drinks was shared...if you hang like me, unless the singer is mad...she wont hesitate to let u do what you wanna do to her...i am kind that luv to play auction...think u noe already