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An additional place in the group stage is reserved for the title-holders, in case they don't qualify via their domestic league. However, an association is limited to sending at most four clubs for a season. This means that if the title-holders come from a league given four positions, but finish out of the top four, it will take the place of the fourth placed team. The fourth placed team will go to the UEFA Cup.

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Benitez - Europe is simpler
Reds boss finds Premier League tougher than Champions League


Liverpool manager Rafa Benitez has admitted that he finds Premier League fixtures more problematic than UEFA Champions League encounters.


The Reds have failed to mount a serious title charge in England's top flight since Benitez took over at Anfield in 2004.


However, the Spaniard has demonstrated an impressive astuteness in Europe, leading his side to glory in 2004/05 and to the final last season.


Liverpool were tipped challenge for the Premier League title this campaign, but have again failed to live up to expectations.


And Benitez has conceded that he finds it easier to prepare his side for European matches.


"In Europe you can approach a game tactically in a different way," he said.


"In England it is a different style of football and more difficult for the manager to influence what goes on.


"It is not as simple to influence the game with tactics in England the way it is elsewhere in Europe."



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Benitez's comments follow a hard-fought success against Internazionale as late goals from Dirk Kuyt and Steven Gerrard handed Liverpool the upper-hand for next month's the second leg at the San Siro.


The triumph did much to relieve pressure on The Reds boss, and he has voiced his hope that the display will prove to be a catalyst for an upturn in form.


"The victory was important for the club. We needed to play well for our own people, and the attitude of the players was very good. The whole night was really important for everyone at Liverpool," Benitez continued.


"I have always had confidence in the team. If we can play like we did against Inter over and over again, it will be good and we will win a lot of games.


"If you can beat teams like that and play well, it gives us a high level of confidence in the squad.


"I know what people were saying (about me). But as a professional you must be ready for every game, to prepare for every game the best you can and with the same ideas.


"Now we have another important league game at the weekend at home to Middlesbrough. What we need to be is more consistent now."
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Re: Liverpool Fc Anfield - Reds Supporters Gatherings

so wat do my fellow reds think shd rafa go or shd he stay.as for me i think he shd jus stay put,i believe he is the man to win us the premiership.if we can do it in europe i m sure we can do it in the league.rotation is not a problem with me.
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so wat do my fellow reds think shd rafa go or shd he stay.as for me i think he shd jus stay put,i believe he is the man to win us the premiership.if we can do it in europe i m sure we can do it in the league.rotation is not a problem with me.
For what he has achieved with & done to LFC,I hope he'll be given another season to see out his visions. IMHO he needs more good enough players to make this rotation system work well. Having said that,Man U and Chelski will always outspend us in the transfer market.
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For what he has achieved with & done to LFC,I hope he'll be given another season to see out his visions. IMHO he needs more good enough players to make this rotation system work well. Having said that,Man U and Chelski will always outspend us in the transfer market.
I do hope the same too.
But on the other hand, hope he can make his rotation thing work better for him and not against him.
I reckon he should learn from the best like Arsene Wenger, he is quite shrewd on the transfer market and always working on a limited budget.
Look at the success he bring to Arsenal all this years.
Look forward to a good game this weekend.
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certainly agreed with you bro, i rather see them finish higher up the table, then just plainly playing for CL win, of course I love that, to win the 6th title. But I certainly hope the players can concentrate more on the league games, and win this coming weekend game against boro, and of course the games after that.
Since Rafa had been here 4 years, I really hope that Liverpool can at least finished 3rd place 1 better that last season. At least if there are new owners , they couldn't fault him. But if Liverpool finishes 5th or 6th position, then Rafa's position will be in jeopardy. As it is he is living on borrowed time . That is 1 match at a time.
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Don't think he will. Rafa is smart enough to know he has to secure 4th (financial reasons, minimum expectations from fans and bosses). Once he does that, then he will field weaker sides in the league. It's not like we have a lot of other domestic distractions other than the league
Just mark my words , looking at Rafa's past tactics he will mostly chop and change at least 5 players for this coming Boro match. It maight even end in a draw.
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Let Everton go UEFA cup ba..That season they go in CL...losing and out when qualifying rounds..no offend to Everton fans..or jus hope Reds will hop up to 4th or maybe 3rd hee hee or better 2nd
If Everton and Man City were to continue their fine form, they would give Liverpool a run for their money for that 4th spot. If that really happens I think I will lose more hair and sleepless nights.
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Liverpool were tipped challenge for the Premier League title this campaign, but have again failed to live up to expectations.

And Benitez has conceded that he finds it easier to prepare his side for European matches.

"In Europe you can approach a game tactically in a different way," he said.

"In England it is a different style of football and more difficult for the manager to influence what goes on.

"It is not as simple to influence the game with tactics in England the way it is elsewhere in Europe."

He had been here for 4 years now he dare say such things? It still showed that he still does not understand the English game. He is only good at CL.

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so wat do my fellow reds think shd rafa go or shd he stay.as for me i think he shd jus stay put,i believe he is the man to win us the premiership.if we can do it in europe i m sure we can do it in the league.rotation is not a problem with me.
For 4 years he had not improved on the EPL ranking for Liverpool . And we have to wait 1 more year for success in EPL? What if doesn't deliver next year?
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so wat do my fellow reds think shd rafa go or shd he stay.as for me i think he shd jus stay put,i believe he is the man to win us the premiership.if we can do it in europe i m sure we can do it in the league.rotation is not a problem with me.
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I do hope the same too.
But on the other hand, hope he can make his rotation thing work better for him and not against him.
I reckon he should learn from the best like Arsene Wenger, he is quite shrewd on the transfer market and always working on a limited budget.
Look at the success he bring to Arsenal all this years.
Look forward to a good game this weekend.

To be hornest,when i called for the sacking of rafa its really came out from my desperation cos the time is really against the team..and against the fans all over the world..below,i will list down few point see wherether bros here got a sligh agree of what i say:

I)18 yrs without a league champion to some of the new fans or young supporters even to me is a problem,but not a very big problem as we can still afford to wait,but spare a thought to those who's already in their 60s,70s even 80s,what about those seriously ill?Lots of them i believed are hardcore Liverpool supporters,the question is how long this group of supporters still got to wait before Liverpool win the premire league trophy?Or probably,thay got no chance to withness their favorite team in this historical moment again?so here,i like to borrow a famous quote from the great bill shankly“Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that.”So,did rafa understand what this qoute means,or he dont even know it?

II)Our team captain Steven Gerrard will turn 28 this comming may,in his whole professional carrer,he has won almost every cup eg: League Cup,FA Cup,Uefa Cup,Super Cup,Champions League.An intersting point to take note,although is not yet confirm but i think he will be the new England captain under Capello regime,so if our team still fail to deliver the illusional League champion,he will be listed as the only England perm Captain without winning a league champion in recent history.Compare to the likes of Bobby Moore,Bobby Chalton,Emlyn hughes,Kelvin Keegan,Terry Butcher,Brayan Robson,Gary Lineker,David Platt,Tony Adam,Alan Shearer,Davis Beckham and John Terry..And if we put his name in the bigger picture with the world legend together the likes of Pele,Maradona,Platini,Gullit,Barisi,Maldini,Mattha us,Klinsman,Zidane and so on..i think is the greatest regret in his entire wonderfull career.

III)I believed our team we will improve either sooner or later..But while we are improving,do all bros here expect scums,gunners,chelski,manc,spurs to remain the same or even decline?From why i see,to be realistic if rafa still remain in the hot seat..even if we improve,we are hardly post any serious threat to the current top 3 teams and the rising team is breathing behind our back cos rafa do not understand his priority in the 1st place.Unless he can confirm with us he will win Champions League every season,if not slowly without any notice,we will start playing in the Uefa Cup,later in Uefa Cup via Inter Toto cup..Worsen the whole thing,when Uefa proposed to allow the cup winners to participate in the CL,rafa voice his objection!!Who ask him to be so clever!!

IV)Having saying the above,i got to admit rafa is 1 of the greatest manager in the world long as continental football is concern but not English Premire League..Just look at his reaction and body language in League and CL,he got so turn on when our team playing in the CL,so i can foresee him to become the future spainish national manager.Hope all reds bros here can consider my points.
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Since Rafa had been here 4 years, I really hope that Liverpool can at least finished 3rd place 1 better that last season. At least if there are new owners , they couldn't fault him. But if Liverpool finishes 5th or 6th position, then Rafa's position will be in jeopardy. As it is he is living on borrowed time . That is 1 match at a time.
Didn't we finish 3rd last season and the season before? Arsenal was 4th right? We beat them on goal difference. I remember Rafa was resting players, once the top 4 finish was secured, for the Champions League final.
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IV)Having saying the above,i got to admit rafa is 1 of the greatest manager in the world long as continental football is concern but not English Premire League..Just look at his reaction and body language in League and CL,he got so turn on when our team playing in the CL,so i can foresee him to become the future spainish national manager.Hope all reds bros here can consider my points.
I concur on this point and like jamie Rednapp said Rafa will never win the EPL. I think the reason is that either his tactics seems to be wrong or the players he buys from abroad cannot adapt to the rough play of the EPL. look at torres, machiam lightweight, always tripping and falling at the slightest challenge.
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I concur on this point and like jamie Rednapp said Rafa will never win the EPL. I think the reason is that either his tactics seems to be wrong or the players he buys from abroad cannot adapt to the rough play of the EPL. look at torres, machiam lightweight, always tripping and falling at the slightest challenge.
j rednapp wat did he win in his time at pool,he was out injured most of the time.torres a lightweight, i guess u watching bpl on a different planet
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To be hornest,when i called for the sacking of rafa its really came out from my desperation cos the time is really against the team
Yes,we need changes if Rafa really can't make it in the league,but who can guarantee with instant success after he leaves ? The Special One ? he did bring the league title to Chelski in his first season,need I say more,with Roman's deep pocket. With a team of Gerrards & Torreses,maybe Rafa can even bring us Treble too !
The two most successful managers in the EPL,Wenger took 3 seasons & Ferguson 6 seasons to deliver the first league title to their respective clubs under their management. From then on they ruled the EPL until Mourinho arrived. What does that indicate ? Team building ! & it takes time.
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j rednapp wat did he win in his time at pool,he was out injured most of the time.torres a lightweight, i guess u watching bpl on a different planet
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Yes,we need changes if Rafa really can't make it in the league,but who can guarantee with instant success after he leaves ? The Special One ? he did bring the league title to Chelski in his first season,need I say more,with Roman's deep pocket. With a team of Gerrards & Torreses,maybe Rafa can even bring us Treble too !
The two most successful managers in the EPL,Wenger took 3 seasons & Ferguson 6 seasons to deliver the first league title to their respective clubs under their management. From then on they ruled the EPL until Mourinho arrived. What does that indicate ? Team building ! & it takes time.
That's right, bros, some fans are so eager to get rid of Rafa now that they don't realise what it takes to create a successful team. I have always maintained we have improved from last season and I still maintain it and that's enough for me to give Rafa another season.
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