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[sojo]

Originally Posted by pakalolo

But if they are in angmoh dominated bars and agogo, They look at asian as if telling us "you not welcome here" wonder if any of you guys notice that the angmoh will greet another angmoh even when they are total stranger but will never greet an Asian.

Never had such an experience in any angmoh dominated bars. I'm not there for the angmohs anyway.

[Dittatore]

Originally Posted by pakalolo

But if they are in angmoh dominated bars and agogo, They look at asian as if telling us "you not welcome here" wonder if any of you guys notice that the angmoh will greet another angmoh even when they are total stranger but will never greet an Asian. D

Yes I have experienced that too. Once I was in Angeles city and wandered into a bar off Diamond subdivision. I did not know that this was an ex-servicemen bar frequented former Australian soldiers. When I entered the bar I was the only Asian inside and there were about 6 other customers all angmohs.

There were about 15 bar girls working in this bar and whichever girl came to sit with me, one of the angmohs would call her away by buying LD for her. The 6 of them took turns to do this with every girl that came to me.

Soon I caught on to what was happening. I called the mamasan over and bought her a DLD + gave her 200p as tips when she sat down. I instructed her to give all the girls who are not sitting with any customers a DLD, including the cashier and waitresses. I also handed out 100p tips to any girl that came to my table. Within minutes my table was full of girls, and when those girls who were with the angmohs saw what was happening they also came over but I told mamasan to tell them to go back to their customers. Some of them did not want to and said they wanted to sit with me.

It certainly felt good to turn the tables on those angmohs and I loved the look on their faces when I left the bar later.

But so far this discrimination has not happened to me yet in any Bangkok or Pattaya bars. Touch wood and hope that it stays that way.

[tandoori]

Haven't real seen angmo have such control over a gogo bar in BKK yet ! Only maybe few pubs where they frequent and chat with their own crowd.

From my talk with the bar girls they don't like angmo except the ones who have money. A lot of them usually the old retired types or young college ones don't have money. They just try to sweet talk the girl and take her home for free or discounted price.

Only Japanese are consistent in being good with barfine and tips.

[Soopafly]

I'd like to go to places where I am welcum, and my bahts are as good as anyone else's. I have no issues with farangs, as long as we all get what we want at the end of the night

[pakalolo]

Originally Posted by tandoori

Haven't real seen angmo have such control over a gogo bar in BKK yet ! Only maybe few pubs where they frequent and chat with their own crowd.

From my talk with the bar girls they don't like angmo except the ones who have money. A lot of them usually the old retired types or young college ones don't have money. They just try to sweet talk the girl and take her home for free or discounted price.

Only Japanese are consistent in being good with barfine and tips.

Unless they are new in the industry bar girls are not easy to sweet talk,they have heard all kinds of sugar coated words.
But in any event if they do like you then it's difference story

Once I pick one from Hillary Bar who just enter the industry less than 3 weeks and had a great time with her.

Question is how to spot the new arrival,I always bar hope during the day along Soi 4 beer bar and observed their behaviour, dressing and the way they play pool.

This i must say need some experience like buying gem stone,no hard and fast rule.

If you asked them all will say 'me only 2 weeks working here' they may not be lying just that they skipped out the ' i was working at other bar for xx years' or ' i just come back from leave' part.

Good luck and happy hunting

[tandoori]

That's true. Hard to sugar talk an experienced bar girl. They deal with customers like us everyday. They like you when you put your money where your mouth is.

Tip lavishly, buy her small gifts and small things like carry her handbag on way to hotel. Then she will say "you have a good heart" ..by which she means "you have got good money".

After that she is much more friendly and easy to get along.

[pakalolo]

Originally Posted by tandoori

That's true. Hard to sugar talk an experienced bar girl. They deal with customers like us everyday. They like you when you put your money where your mouth is.

Tip lavishly, buy her small gifts and small things like carry her handbag on way to hotel. Then she will say "you have a good heart" ..by which she means "you have got good money".

After that she is much more friendly and easy to get along.

Yes,a little romance goes a long way, not everyday someone will wine, dine and woo them and treat them like a lady should be treated.
We all want the GFE but they too want the BFE? At the end of the day, they are as human as anybody else.

Having said all that we still need to fliter out the runners and that is some works

[sex69xes]

Hello Samsters,

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If you are keen to meet up to explore some of the interesting places together, PM me with your contact.

[niknik889]

Regarding short time pricing at Rainbow 4.

I go there all the time so im familiar with who the japanese like. I asked recently a topless dancer if she was the number 1 in barfines at the end of the month, she acknowledged YES SHE WAS. at least thats what i think she said-there is a language problem many many times. FYI she is the slender one with orange-ish coloured hair, nice slim body with ample boobs. Not hard to see why she is number 1. Almost forgot really pretty.

Now she quoted me 2500 short time. She is alwasy good for barfines during primetime-im pretty sure if she works she pulls in 2-3 barfines everyday.

What i dont get is the lower tiered girls ask for the same 2500. Some are quite pretty yet not barfined regularly.

Why are they not quoting lower prices? Is it embarrassing to admit you dont look like number 1..................lol?

Price does matter! I really think unless you a top earner you should be quoting 2k-1500.

[El Frances]

Originally Posted by Pinkreika

Rainbow 1-3 ST~ 2000baht LT~4000baht,as for Rainbow 4 I don't know why slightly higher(Maybe cause of many Japanese visiting there).
Rainbow 4 ST~2500baht LT~5000baht.
This rates are what I know on oct 2012. Not sure abt now.

Rainbow 4 tends to get out of range (Hmmm.. not sure they all go at this price...)! 2500 ST, I prefer to get a girl at 3000 LT in other Gogos!

[Pinkreika]

Originally Posted by El Frances

Rainbow 4 tends to get out of range (Hmmm.. not sure they all go at this price...)! 2500 ST, I prefer to get a girl at 3000 LT in other Gogos!

Yup agree with u. But sometimes u just can't find any that catch your eye in other AGGs na.

[Ipsisngelus]

Originally Posted by niknik889

Regarding short time pricing at Rainbow 4.

I go there all the time so im familiar with who the japanese like. I asked recently a topless dancer if she was the number 1 in barfines at the end of the month, she acknowledged YES SHE WAS. at least thats what i think she said-there is a language problem many many times. FYI she is the slender one with orange-ish coloured hair, nice slim body with ample boobs. Not hard to see why she is number 1. Almost forgot really pretty.

Now she quoted me 2500 short time. She is alwasy good for barfines during primetime-im pretty sure if she works she pulls in 2-3 barfines everyday.

What i dont get is the lower tiered girls ask for the same 2500. Some are quite pretty yet not barfined regularly.

Why are they not quoting lower prices? Is it embarrassing to admit you dont look like number 1..................lol?

Price does matter! I really think unless you a top earner you should be quoting 2k-1500.

If you are working in sales and all your peers charge a commission of 2.5k, what do you think will happen if you start charging 1k instead? There are a lot of "office" politics and work "ethics" among these wls.

[indianmagicoil]

Originally Posted by Ipsisngelus

If you are working in sales and all your peers charge a commission of 2.5k, what do you think will happen if you start charging 1k instead? There are a lot of "office" politics and work "ethics" among these wls.

All AGGs have a tacit agreement to follow the market price because if one starts under cutting they know its the AGGs who will loose in the end. Thats why bar fines and price for sex are the same across the board.

No girl will also work for less because it lowers their status. Soi Cowboy, Nana & Patpong are tourist destinations so girls working there cannot charge less than those working in Saphan Kwai for the same reason Saphan Kwai girls cannot charge less than the neighborhood whore house (yes, you can fuck in Bangkok for less than Bht1,000). Top of the pecking order would be G Club girls.

Demand & supply also dictates that with mongering information easily available, travel getting cheaper and accessible means more sex tourists. Personal experiences and anecdotal evidence suggests that this is true. i.e. Baccara now charging covers on weekends and more noob Qs in this forum.

Of course you do get better rates because the girl likes you or its almost closing time and a host of other reasons but so long as you never pay carrot price & get whats agreed then not to worry you didn't loose out on anything.

[atoll]

Originally Posted by niknik889

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What i dont get is the lower tiered girls ask for the same 2500. Some are quite pretty yet not barfined regularly.

Why are they not quoting lower prices? Is it embarrassing to admit you dont look like number 1..................lol?

Price does matter! I really think unless you a top earner you should be quoting 2k-1500.

They will not quote u a lower price inside the agogo bar. I remember they even had cards to show ST and LT rates to customers who have difficulty understanding their english! The less popular ones are afraid that they will be found out and get ostracised by the others.

That is not to say they will not lower their price...as bro IMC mentioned they will do it for various reasons, and esp if they like u (cos u narak and presentable) or enjoy your company (sweet talker).

You can get their number and tell them the amount u willing to pay, if she's interested. But exchange numbers discreetly as it is frowned upon. She may contact u after work or if she's got no other customers. Sometimes even the next day she may be willing to go with u and miss work....but they may ask u to help pay her fine for not turning up for work....depending on the day.

For a higher chance to get LT with the popular ones, if they met their quota and like u, plus prospects of going out party, they may agree to it. The other way is to barfine ST first, and if she had an enjoyable time, she may agree to go out to party, and after that go back with u again! If chances are she did not negotiate with u for LT fees, then she would prob be happy with the ST fees and whatever tips u give her.

Of course everything dependent on how charming u are.... anyway tried both methods a long time back so not sure how things have changed. Will find out in my coming trip end Feb!

[cooler07]

1 popular gal i encountered even ask for 3k ST and 6K LT at Shark. knn... she think i m carrot head, first time chiong bangkok. She quote a ang mo 8K... the ang mo turn his eyes... finally she went back with a jap... jap yen dropping like shit i hope these jap has lower spending power preventing them from spoiling market...