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[rahl]

Did anyone else notice we didn't have defenders on the bench yesterday? Just so we have something else to talk about besides the sub

[Xgenre]

Originally Posted by Dirk Kuyt

Mon 15 Oct, 10:30 AM
John Carew has told his Norway team-mate John Arne Riise to get away from Liverpool's persistent squad rotation and join him at Aston Villa.Riise has been in and out of Rafael Benitez' side recently, falling behind Alvaro Arbeloa in the pecking order at left-back and failing to secure a regular starting role on the wing.

We should cash in on Riise. As a left back, he keeps getting turned and beaten for pace by right-wingers. As a left winger, he can't dribble past defenders and provide good crosses. His shooting is very deadly and accurate from range, that's all.

Rafa can find better left back or left winger, I'm sure.

[qw2op]

Originally Posted by coolfire69

... Anyone noticed how after Lucas came in for Gerrard, we seemed more in control and pinned the the small team in their own half?

actually, hor ... ze real reason is dis 1 la ...

rafa hd been studying ze latest match stats ...

in ze sunderland, toulouse n derby matches, gerrard din play ... liverpool scored 12 gols in 270 min ... ie. avg 1 gol in 22.5 min ...

after dat, in ze porto, birmingham, wigan, marseille, spurs matches, gerrard played ... liverpool scored 5 gols in 450 min ... ie. avg 1 gol in 90 min ... (hv left out vs pompey (gerrard came on as subs) n carling cup match dun count)

when going 2 70 min yesterday, liverpool has oredi scored 1 gol .. so he tot ... if gerrard continue playing, den according 2 stats, liverpool cannot score any more ... since avg is 1 gol in 90 min ...

dat time still hv 20 min more 2 go ... so, if take gerrard out, according 2 stats, still can score 1 more gol ... since wifout gerrard, avg is 1 gol in 22.5 min ...

so dat's y gerrard was subs @ 70 min ... @ dat time, still hv 20 min of normal time left ... ze gol was scored in +ed on time ... +ed on time was 3 min ... juz nice 4 1 gol according 2 ze stats ... so, rafa was happy dat he followed ze stats ...



seriously, any1 noticed ze main diff in ze way liverpool play wif n wifout gerrard?

[hotsoup16]

very simple, Germard 's mind is some where else

[hawksbay]

Originally Posted by Xgenre

We should cash in on Riise. As a left back, he keeps getting turned and beaten for pace by right-wingers. As a left winger, he can't dribble past defenders and provide good crosses. His shooting is very deadly and accurate from range, that's all.

Rafa can find better left back or left winger, I'm sure.

i don t agree with on that,if u look at it he has been quite consistent thru out the time he has been at anfield i don t think rafa will let him go.he s quite versatile left mid n left back,always breaking forward to get his thuderbolts at goal.

[hawksbay]

Originally Posted by hotsoup16

very simple, Germard 's mind is some where else

n where is that. guess he is planning his summer holiday but i was glad to see in somewhere near his best.i think the guy in the newpaper got it spot on even though i think they r crap.that stevie g is better playing in the hole than in central midfield or on the right.rememeber he started as a right back for pool under gh.he s not world class but he s a special player for us.

[hawksbay]

Originally Posted by qw2op

actually, hor ... ze real reason is dis 1 la ...

rafa hd been studying ze latest match stats ...

in ze sunderland, toulouse n derby matches, gerrard din play ... liverpool scored 12 gols in 270 min ... ie. avg 1 gol in 22.5 min ...

after dat, in ze porto, birmingham, wigan, marseille, spurs matches, gerrard played ... liverpool scored 5 gols in 450 min ... ie. avg 1 gol in 90 min ... (hv left out vs pompey (gerrard came on as subs) n carling cup match dun count)

when going 2 70 min yesterday, liverpool has oredi scored 1 gol .. so he tot ... if gerrard continue playing, den according 2 stats, liverpool cannot score any more ... since avg is 1 gol in 90 min ...

dat time still hv 20 min more 2 go ... so, if take gerrard out, according 2 stats, still can score 1 more gol ... since wifout gerrard, avg is 1 gol in 22.5 min ...

so dat's y gerrard was subs @ 70 min ... @ dat time, still hv 20 min of normal time left ... ze gol was scored in +ed on time ... +ed on time was 3 min ... juz nice 4 1 gol according 2 ze stats ... so, rafa was happy dat he followed ze stats ...



seriously, any1 noticed ze main diff in ze way liverpool play wif n wifout gerrard?

very good theory but u don t take someone who can win u the game off cos at that point we were all over them but lucas did well pity he did not get the goal then rafa wld have hail as the genius but in my book he is the man to win us the tittle.

[hawksbay]

Originally Posted by Cummon

The winner came after Steven Gerrard was substituted for Brazilian Lucas Leiva – a decision which may have raised one or two eyebrows.

Benitez explained: "We weren't keeping the ball very well and were in too much of a hurry sometimes with our final pass.

"I put Lucas on because he is a very good player who can pass the ball well for us.

"In the end, Lucas helped us win the game by having the shot that led to our winning penalty."

Own up Rafa, you gambled

Poor Neville,would be a hero if Howard managed to save the spot kick.
Glad that the bragging rights are now back to the Red Merseyside.

ya man that was a big gamble cos he had me baffled.

[coolfire69]

Originally Posted by qw2op

actually, hor ... ze real reason is dis 1 la ...

rafa hd been studying ze latest match stats ...

in ze sunderland, toulouse n derby matches, gerrard din play ... liverpool scored 12 gols in 270 min ... ie. avg 1 gol in 22.5 min ...

after dat, in ze porto, birmingham, wigan, marseille, spurs matches, gerrard played ... liverpool scored 5 gols in 450 min ... ie. avg 1 gol in 90 min ... (hv left out vs pompey (gerrard came on as subs) n carling cup match dun count)

when going 2 70 min yesterday, liverpool has oredi scored 1 gol .. so he tot ... if gerrard continue playing, den according 2 stats, liverpool cannot score any more ... since avg is 1 gol in 90 min ...

dat time still hv 20 min more 2 go ... so, if take gerrard out, according 2 stats, still can score 1 more gol ... since wifout gerrard, avg is 1 gol in 22.5 min ...

so dat's y gerrard was subs @ 70 min ... @ dat time, still hv 20 min of normal time left ... ze gol was scored in +ed on time ... +ed on time was 3 min ... juz nice 4 1 gol according 2 ze stats ... so, rafa was happy dat he followed ze stats ...



seriously, any1 noticed ze main diff in ze way liverpool play wif n wifout gerrard?

Well done bro... I for one, noticed the difference, like you did!

[canthaveenuf]

Originally Posted by KingEros

1) it took real balls to drop Gerrard
2) it was a gamble that swung the result favourably

Credit to Rafa for having the courage to do what he felt is right and necessary. Credit also to Gerrard for respecting his boss's decision. Some big ego players would have made a big scene esp since it is a derby game. Rafa must have done his sums and felt that we can win without Gerrard (since Blues got 10 men left) and we need Gerrard for Tue match. He must also have felt the same with Benayoun who did an excellent job as well. Good thing the gamble paid off.

Originally Posted by KingEros

... while Sissoko still cannot make a 20m pass correctly with his eyes closed.

Bro, you mean "with his eyes opened wide-wide" lah. I think even if the ball is equiped with GPS, he will still not be able to make a 10 m pass accurately. Everytime he gets the ball I get heart attack !!!

Originally Posted by rahl

There was one where he was alleged to have said we need to use our brain and not our heart, which is pretty damn insulting to Stevie if true [emphasis if].

Yah, saw this in Straits Times too. If Rafa did said it, I think he meant it to say that becos it is a derby game, it is very emotional (which is very evident -- the way the more senior Pool players celebrate after the match appeared like we won a cup final !!). And Stevie G might get too caught up in the emotions -- ie, play too much with his heart. Don't think he was insulting Stevie G.

Cheers

[KingEros]

Originally Posted by rahl

Did anyone else notice we didn't have defenders on the bench yesterday? Just so we have something else to talk about besides the sub

Yes ... the 3 subs used were Babel, Lucas & Pennant ... while the only one unused is Crouch.
Did it mean Rafa was prepared to go 3-5-2 ... had any of the defenders been injured?? Another brave move on his part which deserved our applause??

[KingEros]

Originally Posted by Xgenre

We should cash in on Riise. As a left back, he keeps getting turned and beaten for pace by right-wingers. As a left winger, he can't dribble past defenders and provide good crosses. His shooting is very deadly and accurate from range, that's all.

Rafa can find better left back or left winger, I'm sure.

Really dunno where you coming from ...
But, putting that aside, can you share with us your wise views ... on which other better left-back or left-wingers are available ... whether in Jan or in the summer??

How convenient to always say "Rafa can ... I'm sure".

[Dirk Kuyt]

Originally Posted by KingEros

Did it mean Rafa was prepared to go 3-5-2 ...

Your Royal Highness the King of EROS.... we were playing 3-5-2 yesterday

GK - Reina

DF - Finnan
DF - Hypia
DF - Carragher

LM - Riise
CDM - Mascherano
CAM - Gerrard
CDM - Sissoko
RM - Benayoun

AT - Voronin
AT - Me

[NightShade]

Haha. I think we cannot even begin to think how Rafa mind work. But a win is a win. Now we need to qualify for the next stage of CL.

I agree with all we need to BUY defenders. But maybe we should not sell anyone yet.

[Exciter101]

Up to today, i still don't know why Sissoko is not improving...
The game against Everton was very poor.
Losing ball possesion and erratic passing...