Issue with ICA - Page 28

ESebastian · #**406** 09-03-2011, 01:35 AM

Yes Sir, you are right, my bad. Brings to me that actually gov website not easy to navigate to the right contacts. Think the QSM is the one to keep in the CC loop??

Commissioner Clarence YEO, PPA(P),PB,PBS
63916001 [email protected]

Dy Commissioner (Operations) Christopher NG
63916005 [email protected]

Dy Commissioner (Policy & Admin) Vijakumar SETHURAJ,PPA(P),PPA(G),PBS
63916103 [email protected]

Quality Service Manager SUPT HONG Heng Chong
1800-298 8985 [email protected]

Jdaniel · #**407** 11-03-2011, 05:12 AM

Hope some experience brothers here can give me some advice on this,my gal was charged in court for overstaying and not complying to the special pass given,she has already accepted punishment and is back in her country,will she be able to enter singapore again? I asked her about the ban period but she said the officers didn't tell her how long,i have looked through all the documents given to her including her passport but none of it states the banned period,can brothers advise me how can i go about checking the ban period (if any), also,if there are means to appeal,which address can i actually send to? I have look through the ica website and can only find the feedback form,the ica hotline also doesn't seems of much help, can kind brothers here advice on this matter, many thankz

SureScore · #**408** 11-03-2011, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jdaniel

Hope some experience brothers here can give me some advice on this,my gal was charged in court for overstaying and not complying to the special pass given,she has already accepted punishment and is back in her country,will she be able to enter singapore again? I asked her about the ban period but she said the officers didn't tell her how long,i have looked through all the documents given to her including her passport but none of it states the banned period,can brothers advise me how can i go about checking the ban period (if any), also,if there are means to appeal,which address can i actually send to? I have look through the ica website and can only find the feedback form,the ica hotline also doesn't seems of much help, can kind brothers here advice on this matter, many thankz

Think the ban is 2 to 3 years.

ICAlaw101 · #**409** 11-03-2011, 08:24 PM

Before she leaves Singapore, you would have affixed her thumbprint on a document known as an Order of Removal, which means that she will literally be removed from Singapore. the typical ban is 1 to 3 years. in some rare cases, the ban can be a lifetime ban. It is unfortunate that she did not comply with the special pass and overstayed, 跳飞机 as it is commonly known. Be that as it may, she can appeal to return to Singapore and since this involved a previous court conviction, use a lawyer to advance the appeal. Her court records would also be relevant.

However, if she comes into Singapore without approval from ICA known as a written consentto come in, the minimum punishment is one year jail. Good luck.

No ICA feedback form can assist you in this type of appeal.

ICAlaw101 · #**410** 11-03-2011, 08:34 PM

In ICA hierarchy, just write to the relevant department, they will reply you and do their own cc internally.

In real life, when you cc someone, the tendency for the cc party to assume that the main recipient will address the email and when the main recipient notices the cc party and assumes that the cc party will address the email, in the end the email may not be responded to quickly or delayed.

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Originally Posted by ESebastian

Yes Sir, you are right, my bad. Brings to me that actually gov website not easy to navigate to the right contacts. Think the QSM is the one to keep in the CC loop??

Commissioner Clarence YEO, PPA(P),PB,PBS
63916001 [email protected]

Dy Commissioner (Operations) Christopher NG
63916005 [email protected]

Dy Commissioner (Policy & Admin) Vijakumar SETHURAJ,PPA(P),PPA(G),PBS
63916103 [email protected]

Quality Service Manager SUPT HONG Heng Chong
1800-298 8985 [email protected]

ICAlaw101 · #**411** 11-03-2011, 08:40 PM

Bro shy,

You were the one who first say you saw this email and can show fellow bros here

No one in this thread has come forth to say that they ever saw your format before.

I rest my case on this phantom email. No more reminders from me.

QUOTE=shysaint;5743367]Your nick - ICAlaw101 doesn't mean you KNOW Everything and SEE Everything about formats of ICA ....

First of all, email are not answer by ICA officer, they are answered by CSO, you can't even understand what I wrote about , how can u undertsad the content of the email ...

and please understand that all this emails are stantard replys from ICA but not from ICA officers instead is rely from CSO ... if Official reply from ICA, they will not be sent tru' email, it will be via hard copy letter issue by ICA, therefore obviously format are different ...

I suggest you wake up your idea to issue that statement .... " This is my third reminder " ... What is called third reminder ??? Do I owe you anything ??? AM I obligated to do so ????

AM I obligated to find and show you the letter .... Is this my number 1 piority agenda in life to find and show you the letter ...

Friend ... I am current not in town and is with different computer .. Do I owe you an explanation why it has not been posted here ...

It could really been lost ... possibly ....

If you dun believe the format I posted, why ask for more .....[/QUOTE]

shysaint · #**412** 11-03-2011, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ICAlaw101

Bro shy,

You were the one who first say you saw this email and can show fellow bros here

No one in this thread has come forth to say that they ever saw your format before.

I rest my case on this phantom email. No more reminders from me.

Dear MR ICAlaw101 ,

Yes , I agree that I will share, BUT you have to let me find it , I said i will post means I will find it and post it , it just an email to share ...

BUT the qns is do you need to issue reminder to me ??? and 3 times ??? who are you btw to issue reminder to me .... and now you rest your case ... hmmm .. what case to rest

Have a self-reflection ....

Format ??? I also already said , email format and hard copy format are different .....

Rgds ....

Jdaniel · #**413** 12-03-2011, 02:55 AM

Bro icalaw101,i have seen the form of removal given to her,its a pink form which states that she is deem unlawful in sg and has to be removed,however,there isn"t anything which states the banned period, her friends who are repatriated before was told and given a letter stating their banned period but not her,and as for her overstaying,its somehow being sabo by ica officers,she reported to the ica few hours late and was told to come back the next working day, however. On the next working day which she went back,she was charge for overstaying by the ica officer,she has never intend to overstay in the first place as she has already bought her air tickets which she was suppose to fly back on the same day,i wanted to explain things to them as my gal is not well verse in english,however,they refused to entertain me, they say there was nothing i could do,just have to wait,now i do not know if she could really come over and marry,how much does it cost if i were to get a lawyer? Need some financial planning now

ICAlaw101 · #**414** 12-03-2011, 08:39 AM

Bro Jdaniel,

ICA usually do not state the ban period in official documents. However, occasionally it may be stated only when the officer filled the old template form. I do not known exactly how much the lawyer fee costs. Some bros in e forum say it is a couple of low thousands paid via instalments. In your gf case, it is a minor case of overstaying (due to the short period of overstaying). Do you recall why she was given a special pass earlier? That is to say why was her passport confiscated by either police, mom or av and she was sent to ICA to report?

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Originally Posted by Jdaniel

Bro icalaw101,i have seen the form of removal given to her,its a pink form which states that she is deem unlawful in sg and has to be removed,however,there isn"t anything which states the banned period, her friends who are repatriated before was told and given a letter stating their banned period but not her,and as for her overstaying,its somehow being sabo by ica officers,she reported to the ica few hours late and was told to come back the next working day, however. On the next working day which she went back,she was charge for overstaying by the ica officer,she has never intend to overstay in the first place as she has already bought her air tickets which she was suppose to fly back on the same day,i wanted to explain things to them as my gal is not well verse in english,however,they refused to entertain me, they say there was nothing i could do,just have to wait,now i do not know if she could really come over and marry,how much does it cost if i were to get a lawyer? Need some financial planning now

shysaint · #**415** 12-03-2011, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Jdaniel

they refused to entertain me

YES ... because you NOT Legally Related to Her ....

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Originally Posted by Jdaniel

they say there was nothing i could do,just have to wait,

YES, decision made are not from them .... they can only ask you to wait ... or write-in ...

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Originally Posted by Jdaniel

now i do not know if she could really come over and marry

YES, there is always a possibility .. if you give up hope, who can make it happen for you?

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Originally Posted by Jdaniel

how much does it cost if i were to get a lawyer?

If engaging a lawyer is the Number 1 agenda for you, pls seek their advice ...

however, to engage a lawyer to represent you to ask for your GF, I doubt it's going to work ,like I say you and her are NOT legally related ... unless you engage the lawyer to represent her, yes, maybe there are chances ...

My advice is to seek other forms of alternatives , find out more before you engage a lawyer , no point wasting the money at the start ... this is not a 1 week, 1 month thingy, it can drage up to 6 mths or even a year before eveything is ok ....

PLEASE BE PATIENT AND PONDERS WHAT YOU NEED TO DO INSTEAD OF RUSHING DECISION ...

Hurricane88 · #**416** 12-03-2011, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by shysaint

If engaging a lawyer is the Number 1 agenda for you, pls seek their advice ...

why seek their advice...since you dun know them or if they are lawyer...confusing...

Hurricane88 · #**417** 12-03-2011, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jdaniel

Bro icalaw101,i have seen the form of removal given to her,its a pink form which states that she is deem unlawful in sg and has to be removed,however,there isn"t anything which states the banned period, her friends who are repatriated before was told and given a letter stating their banned period but not her,and as for her overstaying,its somehow being sabo by ica officers,she reported to the ica few hours late and was told to come back the next working day, however. On the next working day which she went back,she was charge for overstaying by the ica officer,she has never intend to overstay in the first place as she has already bought her air tickets which she was suppose to fly back on the same day,i wanted to explain things to them as my gal is not well verse in english,however,they refused to entertain me, they say there was nothing i could do,just have to wait,now i do not know if she could really come over and marry,how much does it cost if i were to get a lawyer? Need some financial planning now

you seem to face the denial that your gf was truthful...everything you answer for her...if you continue to be in this manner then you will never accept the truth...you think our ICA was a bunch of useless fools...

shysaint · #**418** 12-03-2011, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Hurricane88

why seek their advice...since you dun know them or if they are lawyer...confusing...

Well , that will never be the case for me ,,,, it's just a waste of money and time .... especially when 'You' and 'Her' are NOT Related AT ALL ....

insing · #**419** 12-03-2011, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hurricane88

.you think our ICA was a bunch of useless fools...

Almost ... otherwise there will be no so many problems and unsatisfactions in SG now

i mean whoever leads the ica

Hurricane88 · #**420** 12-03-2011, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by insing

Almost ... otherwise there will be no so many problems and unsatisfactions in SG now i mean whoever leads the ica

you meant to say sinkies unhappiness and dissatisfactions caused by ICA...dun think you understand the real issue with tis gahmen...

if ICA ran by a bunch of fools then terrorists will bring bombs and guns into sillypore and we are under threat liao...ICA just dun deal with gers...hope you are clear...