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[AdGuy]

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[JaViEr84]

so sorry i ahve lots of thing to learn but really cam on to bros who had tried or helped me.

Khong bit ngay mai ra sao nua?! ma co ra sao cung chang sao

[SING_IN_HCMC]

Originally Posted by AdGuy

Hi all,

Due to some technical difficulties with the forum sign up, I have to make everything public for awhile.

As such, no sign up or log in is required for the moment.

Please continue to support the forum and make it a good resource for all.

Tks, went over have a look...good work!

You have my vote!!

[JaViEr84]

Originally Posted by JaViEr84

so sorry i ahve lots of thing to learn but really cam on to bros who had tried or helped me.

Khong bit ngay mai ra sao nua?! ma co ra sao cung chang sao

paiseh . one more sentence to convert from english to vietnamese. :P

I feel very loss now. Like in a world of no return.
My heart will always belong to only you and forever.

[jackbl]

xao nhieu nhieu!!!
Ghost written: Vietnam’s university students outsource their theses
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VietNamNet Bridge – A lot of students nowadays are so lazy that they do not want to spend time on preparing their thesis, but instead rely on a ‘service’ for their bachelor thesis.

According to Nguoi Lao Dong newspaper students spend five or six million dong to hire people to write their theses. The service is so good that the ghost writer even gives ‘know-how’ tips to help students succeed in their subterfuge.

Nguoi Lao Dong’s reporter, who complained that he purchased a lot of theses via an online market but he could not use them thanks to the bad quality, received advice from a friend that he should call the ‘thesis writing service’. The friend said the ‘service provider’ was very good and that he himself once used the service.

Le Pham T, the ‘service provider’ the reporter contacted, finally agreed to write a thesis for six million dong. T said that he does not want to write any longer as the job does not bring in much money.

“Now I specialize in writing masters’ theses I can earn 12 million dong for each,” he said.

T said that after the thesis subject is approved by the university he will write it in part and email it to the reporter. The reporter then has send the money to his bank account.

“Don’t worry about the thesis. My service is guaranteed,” he said.

In principle, T will have no responsibility any more when the thesis is approved by the lecturers. However, T said that he will provide some ‘know-how’ which can help the reporter to ‘go through all the doors’

It has been discovered that T is a lecturer at a junior college in HCM City and is studying for his master’s degree.

Nguoi Lao Dong also contacted Huy H, who has advertises on bacgiangonline.net. H said that he has 10 years’ experience writing theses, specializing in accountancy, auditing and business administration.

H assured that his work is high quality and promised to ‘give back money if students fail to defend theses’.

According to H, it takes three weeks to write a thesis, while students have to pay five million dong only, a ‘soft price’.

Phu Le Quyen, a lecturer at Can Tho University, said that she knows that many third and fourth year students are writing theses for the students who are learning in in-service training courses.

Quyen said that the theses get high scores, because they are good. She emphasizes the role of the lecturers who guide students in writing theses, saying that if the lecturers consider the theses properly they will discover their problems. If so, students will not dare to use the theses written by others any more.

VietNamNet/NLD

[jackbl]

Surfing webs to get thesis
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VietNamNet Bridge – It can cost as little as 100,000 dong to purchase a thesis oline that, with just a little bit of personalizing, can lead to a master’s degree.

On the students’ forum at HCM City Economic University (Vi.KiloBook.Com Th? Vi?n ?i?n T? Vi?t Nam), ‘aeonz’ offered pay to purchase a thesis provided they could obtain at least an 8/10 mark. Meanwhile, ‘jackal’ on a Yahoo! message board wrote: “I am going to write a thesis and I am looking for one or two theses on construction for reference. Please tell me where I can purchase these.”

The online thesis market
“In order to meet the increasingly high demand for theses for reference, LUẬN VĂN, TIỂU LUẬN, CHUYÊN ĐỀ, ĐỒ ÁN, ĐỀ ÁN, BÁO CÁO THỰC TẬP, LUẬN ÁN, THẠC SĨ, CAO HỌC has been unceasingly upgraded and developed. Its advert states: “Contact us when you need theses”.

Elsewhere tat choluanvan.net, thuvienluanvan.com, luanvanonline.com and luanvan.net, you can find everything from essays to short and graduation reports to higher education theses. Prices start from 50,000 dong and go up to 200,000 dong. Discounts of 20-50 percent are offered to repeat purchasers.

Nguoi lao dong’s reporters called the mobile phone given on the website and were given simple instructions on how to pay for the work. It took only 10 minutes.

After ringing another number advertised on site they spoke to Tuan, he explained he provides a service of writing theses for students. The fee is two million dong for a university graduation thesis and five million dong for a masters thesis

Meanwhile ‘condauhoiem’ on 5giay.vn forum said: “No one would be silly enough to spend time to write a thesis nowadays. They have to take extra jobs to get money. Meanwhile, it takes one week only to purchase a thesis and edit it a little till it’s yours.”

Students have become experts at cutting and pasting from many sources. On occasions they may have to provide updated figures but that is where their research ends.

Thanh Nghia, a former student of the HCM City Economics University wrote on 5giay.vn that thanks to the purchased thesis, he successfully graduated university. “I had to use someone else’s thesis, it’s something which I once hated. However, with the thesis, you do what you can to pass.” he wrote.

Meanwhile, university lecturers admit it is very difficult to discover frauds. Phu Le Quyen, Lecturer of the Can Tho University said that it is almost impossible to find out which theses are copied from others, unless the theses exactly repeat the topics of the old theses or use out of date figures



VietNamNet/NLD

Originally Posted by jackbl

xao nhieu nhieu!!!
Ghost written: Vietnam’s university students outsource their theses
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[tomcat007]

Originally Posted by jackbl

xao nhieu nhieu!!!
Ghost written: Vietnam’s university students outsource their theses

My Hanoi girl is telling me she even take tests / exams on her university friends' behalf. Definitely not only us who xao nhieu nhieu...

[jackbl]

So scary!!!!

Drug prescriptions unreliable: officials
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VietNamNet Bridge – Around 73 per cent of doctors’ prescriptions have not been properly checked, nor have patients been properly advised on drug prices and potential side-effects, health officials said yesterday, December 14, during a conference held in Ha Noi.

According to the Ministry of Health’s Examination and Treatment Management Department’s deputy director Cao Hung Thai, the main reason for the situation was a serious shortage of pharmacists nationwide.

"Technically, pharmacists are in charge of consulting and guiding patients how to use medicine effectively, safely and properly at reasonable costs. They play an important role in medical treatment," Thai said.

However, many patients still purchase drugs without professional consultations as the number of pharmacists at hospitals and health clinics remains inadequate and their professional skills are limited.

A survey made among 245 hospitals nationwide showed that there were only 470 pharmacists serving nearly 52,000 hospital beds, or a ratio of 0.009 pharmacists per bed, while the ministry’s required rate was 0.06 per bed.

Le Viet Hung, rector of the Ha Noi University of Pharmacy, said an inadequate curriculum, out-of-date teaching and studying methods and shortage of educational equipment at colleges were the main reason for poor-quality pharmacists.

As a result, many graduates lacked practical experience, independent research capacity and other requirements such as foreign language and computing skills, he added.

Viet Anh, a pharmacist working at pharmaceutical company Merck Serono, said students only had a two-month probation period at hospitals during their five year study, while clinical treatment still remained a short-term subject, so the quality of pharmacists could hardly meet the requirement.

"The number of qualified pharmacists is generally limited. It will take time to fix the problem," he said.

University representative Thai Nguyen Hung Thu, said the Ha Noi University of Pharmacy would adjust the curriculum on training pharmacists for the next academic year.

It would focus on professional skills for students during their five-year study and create some new modules, including communication skills and medical and moral psychology to improve pharmacist training.

The ministry has set a target of 15 pharmacists per 10,000 people by 2015. The current rate is 1.19 over 10,000 people, according to deputy minister Nguyen Thi Kim Tien.

Tran Quoc Kham, from the ministry’s Science and Training Department said the ministry would work with the Ministry of Education and Training to renew the curriculum, conduct a pilot project to co-operate with international universities and colleges, and build supporting policies to attract students to study and work in rural areas.

VietNamNet/Viet Nam News

[JaViEr84]

bros can ignore my previous post on the english translation to Vietnamese i just need to know what the below means.. really sorry i do not have the sign notes on the words ...

Khong bit ngay mai ra sao nua?! ma co ra sao cung chang sao

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by JaViEr84

Khong bit ngay mai ra sao nua?! ma co ra sao cung chang sao

Meaning:
don't know tomorrow what outcome?! but what outcome, it doesn't matter

[jackbl]

You such a nice guy and Your viet improved more and more, not wonder u hv more and more gals like u

I noticed 1 more to your "killer list" Huong674 6524

Originally Posted by KangTuo

Meaning:
don't know tomorrow what outcome?! but what outcome, it doesn't matter

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by jackbl

You such a nice guy and Your viet improved more and more, not wonder u hv more and more gals like u

I noticed 1 more to your "killer list" Huong674 6524

yes... just added
but kana 'car accident' again after makan

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by JaViEr84

sorry bros need help on the below for translation

Doi khong noi dung chan ben do, khong bit minh se troi dat ve dau...

I try to translate fro you using v.dict.
meaning:
cannot wait don't stop here, don't know I will drift to where...

trôi = to drift, to float along to pass, to elapse (most likely meaning)
trồi = to emerge, to go (come) up
dạt = to drift; to be driven (most likely meaning)
dắt = to lead; to tow; to guide

Originally Posted by JaViEr84

paiseh . one more sentence to convert from english to vietnamese. :P

I feel very loss now. Like in a world of no return.
My heart will always belong to only you and forever.

this very chim to translate... anyway I suggest another sentence of same meaning.

Eng: Now I don't know what to do. I don't have you, my heart won't beat.
My heart only belongs to you and forever.

TV: Bay gio anh khong biet phai lam sao. Anh khong co em, trai tim cua anh khong dap douc. Trai tim anh chi cua em 1minh va mai mai.



From you story, it seems like the gal do not want the r/s with you liao... move on bro... There are many many trees in the forest for you to choose from. No point stocking her liao...

[Sha_Gua75]

Originally Posted by JaViEr84

bros can ignore my previous post on the english translation to Vietnamese i just need to know what the below means.. really sorry i do not have the sign notes on the words ...

Khong bit ngay mai ra sao nua?! ma co ra sao cung chang sao

hmm your gong tau not that deep yet....when u start to learn viet very hard...then u really kanna gong tau

[jackbl]

Are u saying about me

Originally Posted by Sha_Gua75

hmm your gong tau not that deep yet....when u start to learn viet very hard...then u really kanna gong tau