Serious About Learning Thai

[thaiboy]

Originally Posted by free

Bro thaiboy,


Sometimes what the books teach may be the complete opposite of what the local Thais may use. (See this post on Tirak vs Faen) For example, for the word "Faen" versus "Tirak", what the dictionary gives me was that Faen refers to loved one, boyfriend/girlfriend, husband/wife while Tirak refers to darling, sweetheart. I thought that Faen is a stronger term to describe one's partner but according to TG that I just discuss this with today, her pespective was that Tirak is a stronger term. Now I want to find out more about the real difference between these 2 terms. Anyone can contribute?

Bro thaiboy, I hope that you can help contribute to this thread- and perhaps be our master & sifu. I see myself only as a pilgrim, together with other fellow travellers in our quest to learn this most interesting language.

Bro free i maybe in thailand for donkey years but i am still learning, as for the question between faen and tirak u have the right explanation but is up to individual to use it and liking. As for me i prefer using "meya" as wife, "sa mi"or"pua" as husband, "faen" for girlfriends and boyfriends and tirak for sweet talking kekekeke for me using "meya" and "sa mi" show stronger relationship terms and more polite, i always call my wife "meya ja" or when love making i call Tirak Ja.............arhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by thaiboy

Bro free i maybe in thailand for donkey years but i am still learning, as for the question between faen and tirak u have the right explanation but is up to individual to use it and liking. As for me i prefer using "meya" as wife, "sa mi"or"pua" as husband, "faen" for girlfriends and boyfriends and tirak for sweet talking kekekeke for me using "meya" and "sa mi" show stronger relationship terms and more polite, i always call my wife "meya ja" or when love making i call Tirak Ja.............arhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I love to call the girl Nong while she call me PII when we make love. So what is that?

Only in Singapore, "tirak" is really kinda exaggerated.


hahaha
SC

[thaiboy]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

I love to call the girl Nong while she call me PII when we make love. So what is that?

Only in Singapore, "tirak" is really kinda exaggerated.


hahaha
SC

good one SC...some couples do call each other Pii or Nong, very poilte, sweet and respect way to address each other...Piiii kaaaa....

[tirak69]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

I love to call the girl Nong while she call me PII when we make love. So what is that?

Only in Singapore, "tirak" is really kinda exaggerated.


hahaha
SC

do i detect a hint of pii-norng relationship here... scandalous siah!!! kekeke

[free]

I realised that quite a few thais refer to their handphones as "mir tir มือ ถือ" (please see my signature for updates in phonetic represention of "mir tir" - coming soon)

Mir มือ = Hand
Tir ถือ = Hold

Literally it means Handheld - very american isn't it?

[toothbrush]

Originally Posted by thaiboy

good one SC...some couples do call each other Pii or Nong, very poilte, sweet and respect way to address each other...Piiii kaaaa....

Does it apply to lady not in the WL trade?
Cos i often realise the WL are very bold and direct in their words

[free]

Originally Posted by toothbrush

Does it apply to lady not in the WL trade?
Cos i often realise the WL are very bold and direct in their words

Totally applies.I know many ordinary folks who do that. It's like the Malay women tending to call their husbands "Abang"

Pi simply is a polite prefix the name of an older sibling - elder brother or sister

Like sometimes chinese gals also call their men "<name> ker" and the men called their women "<name> mei"

[free]

Originally Posted by sex_maniac

i think its because they are from the countryside. notice how they dont say ka when they speak.

Dun think that is correct. From my limited (but sufficient in this case) understanding of Thais, especially the younger and thus more casual ones, don;t say "ka" or "krap/kap" when they speak to their peers. My girlfriend too dun say ka to me too much, like she dun with her close friends.

But her parents (definitely from the country side) especially dad, used a lot of "krap"s when he speaks to me and I made sure I do the same. Else I would be considered rude, though I think he is more forgiving as ge is knows I am not a Thai and couldn't even utter a single sentence when I first spoke to him on the phone.

[keet]

my wife calls me Pii too but in Canto ver. " Tai Loh"
some gals got strong Issan accent so sometimes say liao not very natural as the Central residents.

[rocketscientist]

My tirak calls me POR ZHA....literally translate is Hey Father but actual meaning is Hey Husband. And I call her MIA ZHA.

[free]

Seems like we got a few of us being "JA-ed". Your wife from Northern Thailand? Wondered if it is particular to that region. My tirak often calls me "Free Jaa" (of course subsitituted with my real name lah . "Jaa" is simply a particle placed after name or kin term to call the attention of someone in an intimate way (like "Ka" or "Kap"). She also used it as "Yes" when answering me (always does that in a very sweet way that makes me smile each time she does it).

For benefit of other bros, "Jaa" (จ๋า ) has a long vowel (drag out the "aa" sound) and is a Rising Tone {Jaa[R]}. Can also be written as "Ja\a (viewable if u download the "MyThai" font from my signature link.
Pronunciation is like the 2nd "pa" sound in "papa" (father) as spoken by Hokkiens, with the 2nd "pa" dragged out a little longer.

Hope the above is useful to some brothers.

[liketoplay]

Originally Posted by keet

my wife calls me Pii too but in Canto ver. " Tai Loh"
some gals got strong Issan accent so sometimes say liao not very natural as the Central residents.

are you serious or kidding your wife calls you ' tai loh ' ?

[keet]

serious lah, been calling that for last 10yrs liao, now speak Thai also abit un-natural..
Pii jaaa only with my tiraks... heheheh

[free]

Another crazy way to learn - Listen to Thai radio on the Internet. Here's a link I listen to often (listening as I type now)
BBC Thailand


One "Official" Thai radio by Govt.
Radio Internet of Public Relations Department

or take your pick from this link:
Thailand Radio

Happy listening. Now, I can understand only about 30%-40%. IMHO, listening to news (worse via PC-cannot see anything) is harder than watching TV dramas (Duu Nang-[R] or Duu Na\ng). Target is 80% by Bplaai Bpii (year end). Hope I can achieve this humongius task once again, like my 1st attempt to speak to my tirak's father from zero-to-acceptable conversation in 4 months..

[free]

Sorry Accidentally repost (double click) wish I can delete