Batam Info Thread

[newyorker88]

Originally Posted by nescafeGold

Not all the non-chinese are muslim. unlike malaysian, many tribe of native indonesian are actually majority in christian or chatolic. for example, batak, balinese, flores, maluku or moluccas, etc. and there are also many javanese or other majority muslim tribe, whose are actually christians. especially in batam, the number of non-muslim is also quite big.. in other country, this may not allowed, i mean for muslim to converted to non-muslim, but in indonesia we have constitutional law that recognize the freedom of the right to choose any religion that they want.

INdonesians are filled with a lot of other tribal and mystic religions as well. They dwell in the arts, be it dark or white. However, they commonly use the term allah.

Many bataks are Christians. And many Javanese have their folk religion that uses spells and other arts for divination, medicine, and ceremonial purposes.

Those muslims that you see going around the entertainment areas during Ramadan and destroy the pubs and so on in the name of allah are no better than the patrons of these places during the normal days of non Ramadan.

[newyorker88]

Originally Posted by nono1973

Looks like the rates are pretty good recently...




Hmm...learned something today....thank you for explaining. The reason why i am curious is becos long time ago,during Suharto time,even Chinese papers,video tape and books are strictly not allowed into Indo...and am quite surprise that one could actually cook the entire pig up for a meal. Perhaps after the collapse of Suharto's dynasty,their laws not as strict as before.



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After Habiebie stepped down, Gus Du the next President change the rules to allow Chinese new year celebration and allow Chinese characters to be put up.

Cooking of pigs are not exclusive to Chinese. Bataks also eat pigs and dogs..

In short Muslim laws are not that prevelant in Indonesia. They are rather liberal and nationalistic.

[newyorker88]

Originally Posted by nescafeGold

I think the reason prata is not cheap in batam because it's not a commonly available food in batam. therefore the price also not 'common'. unlike singapore, we can find at least one prata stall at each hawker. and it's like common breakfast food here..

in batam, i think the only prata restaurant i ever saw is the one in opposite of nagoya hill or nagoya plaza hotel. but i'm not sure if the one that you had or not.

In peniun market, there is another one. Kopitiam 456. below peniun hotel. There is this noodle store also that is dam good. A fat man cooking. Not the thin one direction beside. Although both are cooking noodles, and lots of people eating, I find the store with the fat man cooking to be better. And his speed in cooking is much faster than the other one.

[miumiu6464]

Originally Posted by nescafeGold

may i know which kelong of barelang.. just the curiosity, bcoz i'm a regular at one of the kelong there..

Don't recall the name already since it's 3-4 years ago. Vaguely recall that it's after the 2nd bridge, on the right side, if you are going in the direction of from nagoya to barelang.

Only went there once. Visited the Kwan Im Temple and Vietnamese refuge camp. Loads of monkeys there too.

[miumiu6464]

Originally Posted by nescafeGold

in batam, i think the only prata restaurant i ever saw is the one in opposite of nagoya hill or nagoya plaza hotel. but i'm not sure if the one that you had or not.

If you land at habourbay, the older coffeeshop also sell roti prate there. I like their lontong sayur and roti prata. naise...

[nescafeGold]

Originally Posted by newyorker88

Those muslims that you see going around the entertainment areas during Ramadan and destroy the pubs and so on in the name of allah are no better than the patrons of these places during the normal days of non Ramadan.

couldn't agree more on this.. they're not just no better. they are disgusting too.

[nescafeGold]

Originally Posted by miumiu6464

Don't recall the name already since it's 3-4 years ago. Vaguely recall that it's after the 2nd bridge, on the right side, if you are going in the direction of from nagoya to barelang.

Only went there once. Visited the Kwan Im Temple and Vietnamese refuge camp. Loads of monkeys there too.

oops.. that's the exactly one that i have been regular visiting. ha ha ha.. but so far it's fine for me. the reason that's my regular because i love their floating deck, the seaside dining, and their seafood is fresh, cheap and not overpriced. but cooking quality, i prefer rezeki's.

[nescafeGold]

Originally Posted by nono1973

Hmm...learned something today....thank you for explaining. The reason why i am curious is becos long time ago,during Suharto time,even Chinese papers,video tape and books are strictly not allowed into Indo...and am quite surprise that one could actually cook the entire pig up for a meal. Perhaps after the collapse of Suharto's dynasty,their laws not as strict as before.

Soeharto's banning is the other kind of case. It has nothing to do with the halal food or pork. It's just that, he is so anti communism until he banned anything that has reference to mainland china especially on literature, writing, book, art, play, etc. this one goes back to 1960s when he overtaken the power and wiped all the communist. and unfortunately there was quite a large number chinese whose are in the communist party. there was propaganda that chineses are communist. a lot of dark side history was hidden there.

politic & history aside, things are progressing much better these days. not only chinese related ban were lifted, there are even mandarin news programme in local tv.

[nescafeGold]

Originally Posted by newyorker88

In peniun market, there is another one. Kopitiam 456. below peniun hotel. There is this noodle store also that is dam good. A fat man cooking. Not the thin one direction beside. Although both are cooking noodles, and lots of people eating, I find the store with the fat man cooking to be better. And his speed in cooking is much faster than the other one.

below penuin hotel (kopitiam 456), Is that penuin wet market that you meant? definitely going to check it out next weekend.. thx for pointer.

[Warrrior506]

Went to several fuck houses today, quality was so so.. Most places left with 4-5 girls.. going to pacific later hopefully can hook up with fl.. anyone going today? anyone know where to find pre, indo Chinese in batam? super lost

[newyorker88]

Originally Posted by nescafeGold

below penuin hotel (kopitiam 456), Is that penuin wet market that you meant? definitely going to check it out next weekend.. thx for pointer.

Yes, the wet market has a small coffeeshop. Next to the pork selling hall. It may be stuffy, n hot there. But the food is definitely good.

[jiajundolittle]

Hi Bros,
I and my sammyboy friend Qin Rong are planing to go to batam on the july 6 to 7 july.If interested ,please either contact me or Qin Rong for more information.
Qin Rong wechat :Cqrpiglet
Mine (JiaJun) wechat: ngjj96
Thanks.

[Black Page]

Not a good timing.
Ramadan begins on 28th.
On the first 3 days (28,29,30), not only all joints will be closed daytime (open at 7pm) as during the whole Ramadan, but also all joints and entertainment (pubs, KTVs, discoes) will be totally closed.
I would delay your trip at least 2 days.

Originally Posted by jiajundolittle

Hi Bros,
I and my sammyboy friend Qin Rong are planing to go to batam on the june 30 to 1 july.If interested ,please either contact me or Qin Rong for more information.
Qin Rong wechat :Cqrpiglet
Mine (JiaJun) wechat: ngjj96
Thanks.

[KohOnly21]

Originally Posted by Black Page

Not a good timing.
Ramadan begins on 28th.
On the first 3 days (28,29,30), not only all joints will be closed daytime (open at 7pm) as during the whole Ramadan, but also all joints and entertainment (pubs, KTVs, discoes) will be totally closed.
I would delay your trip at least 2 days.

Even with regular girl, also might not be able to boomboom. From sunrise to sunset have to treat them as invisible.

I had a christian contact but do not know if she's open during ramadan, like going out with me under the eyes of the public and eating together

[atee]

Originally Posted by S.B.Y.1

Sama2 tak jemput ya

Bila Tuan President mau datang ke Batam ya? My bahasa can or not? Still learning.

Originally Posted by ndnd

We skip Windsor foodcourt long time ago liao
Anyhow charge + lousy food
If order seafood and beers, remember to check the bills

Tks bro. I went to try at harbourbay. If is seafood, this the place. Alot to chose.