Safe to travel alone with PRC GF back to China?

[naemlo]

Originally Posted by lurpsexx

KNN, This WL is Bro's tirak leh.. Dun do to others wat u dun wan others to do to u ma... haiz.. Other people patronise her i Bo Way Kong la, but to know fellow Bros upz liao then heart also buay song one wat...

This I'm not worry. No tirak.

[aczeta76]

Originally Posted by listeneralways

Hello bro, I'm new newbie to this forum and may not have any rights to advice you but still felt that I would share some light with you to incidents that has happened to me 1 year ago... ...

I too had a PRC gf who I knew from a KTV. Relationship built very well... ... never pressurizing me to leave my wife. Wow where to find such a good deal... ...? Super understanding and sweet compared to singapore girls... ...

One day KTV got raid. She got arrested, by the time I rushed down nothing I could do except heart damn pain... ... waited for her release till next day... ...

Few days later she has to leave Singapore and never to return for 3 years. In within 1 month, I left everything here to fly there to spend a week of happenings with her. Again when it comes to separation, felt sucks!

Kept thinking of her and life was terrible. 3 weeks later took another flight up to see her again. This time spent 2 weeks there... ... During this 2 weeks, we came upon time to visit her hometown. So naturally we returned to her house to stay... ... To my Fu#@ing surprise a man stormed in with a chopper claiming to be her husband. Told me things I never expected him to know like which hotel we stayed in before, when I called her after we parted(because he said that he was actually fu%$ing her while I called that's why she had to tell me she'll call back as she's having a jog). Showed me photographs of them and family.. .. called the Gong An there, all they did was ask him to calm down and settle properly as it's a family dispute and nothing they would do! Damn it, he's still holding the chopper!

My gf pulled him away quarelled in their own language and he left... ... came back to me tell me sorry, she really love me and blah blah blah... ... But why wasn't she truthful or even she did really love me, why had sex with her husband the moment we parted! Wah like that also can!!! I asked her and she proclaimed she was raped by him... ... hmmmmmmmm very "believable" because I did remember hearing her panting very well and conveniently told me she was jogging... ... I did not see more of her after that day... ... for now I realise it's a world of lies they live in... ...

If you hear about my other friend's PRC gf, even more outstanding I must say... ...

All I can say is consider carefully bro, decide for yourself and good luck... ...

p.s. When I was running from the man with the chopper, thought that it is the end for me... ... everything happened in a flash, flashes of my wife and family came to my mind... ... why was I so stupid? Did I take people who love me for granted? I'm still out for fun but this time round, let the money do the talking and not the feelings!!!

Happening siah... ya, I had thought about this kinda of stuff before I advise TS and also convinced myself to go..

But everyone will think differently loh... see how lah.. we can only wish him and each other luck, and good health... TO many more good years

[Heart Break Kid]

Originally Posted by goodpartner

This one I raise up both my arms and legs to agree too

Maybe there are still the 1% who falls into the scenario where they need lots of money urgently and has no other choice. But the other 99%, even if they are so-called conned to cum here to work in the KTV, have a LAZY mentality.

Compare them to those other PRCs who work decent job with low salary - there is no other excuse.

If you choose to be with one of those 99%, you'll find that it's almost impossible to change their LAZY mindset. So to TS, take the chance to test her on this aspect before you fall head over heels on her.

One of KTV gf now in China..loafing & doing nothing right now. I told to find a job there & she can only find jobs like chambermaid in hotel industry. Low pay plus long hours.. she is only 27 yrs old & she said she not able to take the hard work.

In addition, she wanted to come to S'pore to work proper jobs but not willingly to take up low-level position like factory operators or hotel service staff because salary is likely to be less than $1,000 a month here.

She only had secondary education in PRC land.. not english educated & not skilled too. She only want to work a relax environment for more than $2,000 a month here & that the minimum expectation.

[goodpartner]

Originally Posted by listeneralways

... hmmmmmmmm very "believable" because I did remember hearing her panting very well and conveniently told me she was jogging... ...

p.s. When I was running from the man with the chopper, thought that it is the end for me...

What a classic experience! Bro, you lidat not newbie liao lah, should start a thread to warn all other newbies with this encounter of the chopper.

Can't blame you, as at those points in time you have fallen in love just like TS now. No matter what anyone say to you then, I'm sure you'll still go ahead with that relationship. Only then you'll not regret, since it could also turn out that she's for real.

It's also believable that the girl really love you too, unless you've lost much money in the process. For such "love and lies" I've encounter a few too. At the end of the day, the excuse will be because she loves you so much that she has to lie to you, afraid that you'll leave her.

On the other hand, I know lots of cheongster friends who are married and also lie to WL/GF to remain in relationship too, and they genuinely "love" the girl too. Even me, I lie to all my GFs overseas I'm dedicated to each one...

So yes let's face it: WL and Cheongster alike - We all live in a world of lies

[listeneralways]

You're all right bros... ... at that moment of time, nobody could really advice me... ... I seem to have shut myself out from everyone... ... like I had mentioned, the choice belongs to the TS himself and I could only share my experience. . .

TS, being a bro in this forum... all I can say is exercise caution. PRC girls are smarter than you think... sometimes it could be "Fang cang Xian Diao Da Yu". Nevertheless there is always a chance it may be true love too. Since we have decided to step into the game, we have to outsmart them ourselves... ... Good luck, enjoy your trip and may the force be with you!

Over my experience, I too did not spend much money on her. Just the air tickets for both trips around $1300... ... Expenses and lodging both times around S$3500. Which could sum up o quite a bit... ... She didn't ask me for money though... ... I'm not pissed she's married for she might really have loved me but making love with her hubby who she claims there's no love anymore right after we parted from the first trip was quite unacceptable. That made me decide to disappear from her life forever... ... I too wished her all the best in everything she does in future... ...

[goodpartner]

Originally Posted by Heart Break Kid

She only had secondary education in PRC land.. not english educated & not skilled too. She only want to work a relax environment for more than $2,000 a month here & that the minimum expectation.

Yup, that's the main problem with them.

The society just doesn't have a place for them if they carry such unrealistic expectation. Also, once they've tasted the ease of making money with their body, it's no turning back.

All the WL's thinking is to make as much money as they could when they're young. Along the way, try to hook up a "long-term" bread winner so they can secure their future. Yes, it's the fight for survival in this world, everyone think for their future.

I've had long-term PRC gf whom I once believed to be genuine too and frankly never tax me on money matters throughout years of relationship. During break off, they will start to panic for their future and the arguement will surface on how much "opportunity cost" (money) they have missed in those years they have been with me not working as a WL.

So even if they're willing to stop working just for you, it only means trouble if you can't be with her forever - given their lazy mentality in making a living decently. I've no doubts that there could be LOVE involved between us and WL, but when stacking against bread and livelihood, there's no question which will take the top place.

[Heart Break Kid]

Originally Posted by goodpartner

Yup, that's the main problem with them.

The society just doesn't have a place for them if they carry such unrealistic expectation. Also, once they've tasted the ease of making money with their body, it's no turning back.

All the WL's thinking is to make as much money as they could when they're young. Along the way, try to hook up a "long-term" bread winner so they can secure their future. Yes, it's the fight for survival in this world, everyone think for their future.

I've had long-term PRC gf whom I once believed to be genuine too and frankly never tax me on money matters throughout years of relationship. During break off, they will start to panic for their future and the arguement will surface on how much "opportunity cost" (money) they have missed in those years they have been with me not working as a WL.

So even if they're willing to stop working just for you, it only means trouble if you can't be with her forever - given their lazy mentality in making a living decently.

Now she is looking for a Sg man who can give her $50,000 to $60,000 to start a small business here then she will consider to marry to him

[listeneralways]

Just to side track a bit, China is definitely a heavenly place to be at.. .... lots of wonderful memories... ...

[listeneralways]

Originally Posted by Heart Break Kid

Now she is looking for a Sg man who can give her $50,000 to $60,000 to start a small business here then she will consider to marry to him

Wow that's quite a hefty sum to find a PRC wife.. .... don't you think so?

[colins]

Good sharing, bro listenalways. For a very long time, I have agreed to relationships with PRC but in Singapore, sadly, I think I am getting more and more against such relationships as considering the fundamentals of where we met them and especially on their immediate needs.

I hope if bros really like to take the step ahead to marry one, do go over and accumulate some experience living amongst them first. We're the same race, but hell, we're just so damn different.

Bro goodpartner, I heard a lot of people say that before a person earns big money, he or she must first acquire the attitude for it. Likewise, before a WL decides to take the plunge to sell the only asset she has, her mentality is already fixed to quick bucks short term enjoyment. Its not that they dun want to think long term, they can't and dun know how to. Everyone around them dun do that as well, it simply is unacceptable and unthinkable. In our perspective, we brand it laziness. In their own mentality, its choiceless.

I believe it also largely depends on the WL we meet. If you go to, say, a KTV or a lounge, and meet their top performer, you can see that the lady is not likely to be bred with a 'laziness' attitude. Its the girls who always play around at the fringe of the industry, coming in and out, who has the mentality that WL-ing is short termed and they only need to bag one rich bastard and then can enjoy liao. If so, they definitely want money from you what, else how to come out of the industry? Its not even laziness in these cases, its the way they see value. Normal girls will say that they're cheap and willing to treat their body and soul for comfort, and us if we feed them, will think they just refuse to acquire enough skills to be self sufficient. But whatever perspective we look at them, within them it is the only choice and way to live the life they want, which forms the fundamental of their mentality and therefore unchangeable. This is really something which I think is lower than being lazy, seriously it is really being 'cheap'.

Sorry if I generalised a lot of honeys of bros here into this category. But to understand what I am saying, just compare a young mamasan and some WL who jumps around KTV trying to earn a living. They can be of a same age, but boy you will really be amazed at the difference in the methods they each used to get your money.

[goodpartner]

Originally Posted by Heart Break Kid

Now she is looking for a Sg man who can give her $50,000 to $60,000 to start a small business here then she will consider to marry to him

That's the trend if she can't hook up any long-term bread winner... When she hits 30, she'll be selling not her body but her marriage to an old man who's willing to pick up this bill. A classic tale of the PRC WL.

*sigh*

For us cheongsters, if you can't beat them, join them at the game of lies. Get as many free fucks as possible with such relationships, while our small bro is still able. When we get old and w/o a wife, then spend the last dollar on buying one. Ain't what it's all about here? Ok, I'm joking

[goodpartner]

Originally Posted by colins

... Likewise, before a WL decides to take the plunge to sell the only asset she has, her mentality is already fixed to quick bucks short term enjoyment. Its not that they dun want to think long term, they can't and dun know how to. Everyone around them dun do that as well, it simply is unacceptable and unthinkable. In our perspective, we brand it laziness. In their own mentality, its choiceless.

Can't agree more. It's related to their up-bringing and influence back at home too. Most, if not all, of them are introduced into this trade by friends & relatives. Once they think it's the only way to go about life, it'll be like drug addiction.

Again, on the other side of the coin, we cheongster also will have this "hero" mentality that if we love one, we can change them for the better. We'll take the stand that it's not their fault that they don't think long-term, but only dun know how to - thus we invest ourselves to "educate" them on this aspect hopefully to be their saviour.

Right, life's perspective comes before choice. So the notion of "if given a choice, who will want to sell her body?" is flawed. It's that perspective or person's character (upbringing) that is hard to change (easier to move a mountain).

Geez... if it's not due to a heated arguement I've had with one of my WL gf lately, I won't be sharing so much here. Maybe getting OT liao

[aczeta76]

Haiz...

Everyone have our own issues and devils to deal with..

[azzaro23]

Originally Posted by lurpsexx

Hahaha.. Bro, unless this gal stay with TS 24/7 till she goes back to China, TS can never be sure she won't go back to the streets one la.. many of them get bored staying alone in the hotel room, n may sneak out when the guy not ard to earn a bit more lo.. $$ is always sweeter ma..

Give her 2.5k still not enuf? Need maintenance??? Ask her eat the free instant noodles from the hotel la...

Bottom line is the TS already give $$ liao, so hope she guai guai dun luan luan lai while he is working lo.. also, this arrangement quite disruptive as he will be distracted from work in the day while she is alone (thinking whether she will luan luan lai or not) n he will cheong to her right after work to keep her company lo.. quite siong de leh run ard lidat...

Ya bro i been doing that since last friday. everyday after work cheong go see her and drag until 10 plus 11 pm then reach home.

And yes this arrangement quite disruptive as i am already distracted from work in the day while she is alone. Either i buck up if not my boss will treat me eat fried sotong.

Anyway I am bringing forward the trip to early June most probably I be flying off on the June 2 or on the 6th. Going to the travel agency 2molo to finalise the details.

[EtherC]

The purpose of cheonging is to get sexual satisfaction without the emotional frills. Why do people choose to become committed and in the process subject themselves to unnecessary monetary losses and emotional hurt? Then they come here whining they have no choice about it. Seriously there is always a choice. Don't ever nurture the feeling if it happens, end it there and then. Nip it in the bud. Hoping for a happy life with a WL wife/mistress is plain f@#king stupid. Bad for singles, totally retarded if you're married. You guys are no knights in shining armor rescuing some dainty maiden. Please dowse yourselves with plenty of cold water give yourselves a few good tight slaps and wake up. Learn from the failed examples of your numerous predecessors.The truth usually hurts but this is life. Don't waste your precious time & money on relationships with WLs. If you have money to spare, invest it. Really like PRC girls? Find a posting in China, go and live for a while there. See how the life is there, learn their culture then go find a decent girl not a WL.