How to confirm wife is eating outside

[Shadow_warrior]

To be honest, its probably not hard to find out.

Paper cannot contain fire. Its what you do next that is the issue

Do you
1. Also find someone to cheat with, and have a hidden mutual understanding?
2. Do you get divorced?
3. What about the kids, matrimonial home, assets?
4. Do you try to work it out?
5. What is it doesn't work out?
6. Does she want to work it out?

so many issues to consider. What I do think is, women have become so front in the various places, we men have been lesser, in our manliness.
There are so many pro women clubs, events, places, movements, but almost nothing pro men.

Just take it easy, carry on or move on.

[nakata10]

Thanks for all the suggestions. I think she'll smell a rat if I install an airtag.

Still unconvinced that hiring a PI whether locally or overseas is worth it as it's hard to tell when she goes out or if she's overseas.Seems installing a spyware app on her phone is probably most useful - provided I can access her phone.

Chanced upon some suggestive messages from other guys but insists they're just flirting although I've seen browser history of her checking out local hotel rates and STD clinics etc.

[nakata10]

Originally Posted by Shadow_warrior

To be honest, its probably not hard to find out.

Paper cannot contain fire. Its what you do next that is the issue

Do you
1. Also find someone to cheat with, and have a hidden mutual understanding?
2. Do you get divorced?
3. What about the kids, matrimonial home, assets?
4. Do you try to work it out?
5. What is it doesn't work out?
6. Does she want to work it out?

so many issues to consider. What I do think is, women have become so front in the various places, we men have been lesser, in our manliness.
There are so many pro women clubs, events, places, movements, but almost nothing pro men.

Just take it easy, carry on or move on.

Agree and thanks!

A PI told me that they can at most take pics if she behaves intimately in public with another man. Or if they go to hotel which will only constitute "unreasonable behaviour" and not "adultery".

Ultimately, these are not necessary to file for divorce nor would they impact the child custody and division of matrimonial assets. But at least I would know with some confidence that she's really cheating, for a fee of course.

She will be travelling again twice this month. Maybe ignorance is bliss at times I guess unless I can figure a way to catch her.

[nakata10]

Originally Posted by Shadow_warrior

To be honest, its probably not hard to find out.

Paper cannot contain fire. Its what you do next that is the issue

Do you
1. Also find someone to cheat with, and have a hidden mutual understanding?
2. Do you get divorced?
3. What about the kids, matrimonial home, assets?
4. Do you try to work it out?
5. What is it doesn't work out?
6. Does she want to work it out?

so many issues to consider. What I do think is, women have become so front in the various places, we men have been lesser, in our manliness.
There are so many pro women clubs, events, places, movements, but almost nothing pro men.

Just take it easy, carry on or move on.

Agree and thanks!

A PI told me that they can at most take pics if she behaves intimately in public with another man. Or if they go to hotel which will only constitute "unreasonable behaviour" and not "adultery".

Ultimately, these are not necessary to file for divorce nor would they impact the child custody and division of matrimonial assets. But at least I would know with some confidence that she's really cheating, for a fee of course.

She will be travelling again twice this month. Maybe ignorance is bliss at times I guess unless I can figure a way to catch her.

[YELLOW]

Your last statement is a sure fire sign aldy.
Qn is , after u have found out and confirm she is fucking ard.......
Wat are u gonna do abt it? Confront her? Forgive her ? Contront the guys too
? Divorce her? Kids?
If u are gonna do nothing abt it.....then i suggest u dont find out.
In fact , go out and enjoy life as well!!

Originally Posted by nakata10

Thanks for all the suggestions. I think she'll smell a rat if I install an airtag.

Still unconvinced that hiring a PI whether locally or overseas is worth it as it's hard to tell when she goes out or if she's overseas.Seems installing a spyware app on her phone is probably most useful - provided I can access her phone.

Chanced upon some suggestive messages from other guys but insists they're just flirting although I've seen browser history of her checking out local hotel rates and STD clinics etc.

[dman19]

Originally Posted by YELLOW

Your last statement is a sure fire sign aldy.
Qn is , after u have found out and confirm she is fucking ard.......
Wat are u gonna do abt it? Confront her? Forgive her ? Contront the guys too
? Divorce her? Kids?
If u are gonna do nothing abt it.....then i suggest u dont find out.
In fact , go out and enjoy life as well!!

totally agree lol... just enjoy life!

she eating give you morale high ground to eat also, and no need to feel bad about it. in fact after going one whole round you may end up being able to enjoy your wife again

[Rubbaking]

Originally Posted by nakata10

Agree and thanks!

A PI told me that they can at most take pics if she behaves intimately in public with another man. Or if they go to hotel which will only constitute "unreasonable behaviour" and not "adultery".

Ultimately, these are not necessary to file for divorce nor would they impact the child custody and division of matrimonial assets. But at least I would know with some confidence that she's really cheating, for a fee of course.

She will be travelling again twice this month. Maybe ignorance is bliss at times I guess unless I can figure a way to catch her.

But at least these are crucial evidences so that at least in the event of a divorce, you have more bargaining power in reaching better terms in alimony as opposed to women’s charter. Safeguard youself, especially if in the midst of anger, you also displayed unreasonable behaviour and your wife used it to her advantage against you.

[ghostcow]

Husband versus wife eat out any difference? Or men is purely release while women is mostly emotional

[kgbkgb]

after 9 long years, the promised photos never appear lol

[Rubbaking]

Originally Posted by ghostcow

Husband versus wife eat out any difference? Or men is purely release while women is mostly emotional

It is always the most dangerous when putting in emotions so that is the big difference. To men, the women can be an object for release or fantasy fulfilment only as you said.

[TheWhitePearl]

Originally Posted by nakata10

Thanks for all the suggestions. I think she'll smell a rat if I install an airtag.

Still unconvinced that hiring a PI whether locally or overseas is worth it as it's hard to tell when she goes out or if she's overseas.Seems installing a spyware app on her phone is probably most useful - provided I can access her phone.

Chanced upon some suggestive messages from other guys but insists they're just flirting although I've seen browser history of her checking out local hotel rates and STD clinics etc.

For me I caught exes cheating via change in behaviour and loop holes in their lies.

Most recent example 2 years back, she say morning bring mom go hospital check up. Late afternoon funny feeling, no good morning msg etc. (I.e. change in behaviour) then i video call dont want to pick up. so i msg and say hospital not so long. even if so long sure can answer video call. she boh wei gong admit she in the guy room.

technique basically is a combination of behaviour observation, search for loop holes in their stories and surprise reasonable timing to video call unexpected when they have no valid reason to not answer. Of coz I started this "investigation" when I had gut feeling. so those gut feelings we have usually true.

[Shadow_warrior]

Originally Posted by Rubbaking

It is always the most dangerous when putting in emotions so that is the big difference. To men, the women can be an object for release or fantasy fulfilment only as you said.

I think I don't agree

men are also capable of putting in serious and committed feelings.
Hence in recent cases, Husband's anger against wives cheating and Men's anger against gf, lovers cheating has increased.

women can also fling, ons, fool around, flirt and it can be purely sexual, or for benefit.

they hunt better than men and use sex and their body as the exchange.

[Shadow_warrior]

Originally Posted by TheWhitePearl

For me I caught exes cheating via change in behaviour and loop holes in their lies.

Most recent example 2 years back, she say morning bring mom go hospital check up. Late afternoon funny feeling, no good morning msg etc. (I.e. change in behaviour) then i video call dont want to pick up. so i msg and say hospital not so long. even if so long sure can answer video call. she boh wei gong admit she in the guy room.

technique basically is a combination of behaviour observation, search for loop holes in their stories and surprise reasonable timing to video call unexpected when they have no valid reason to not answer. Of coz I started this "investigation" when I had gut feeling. so those gut feelings we have usually true.

ouch brother

been there. agree with your technique. spot on

[Rubbaking]

Originally Posted by Shadow_warrior

I think I don't agree

men are also capable of putting in serious and committed feelings.
Hence in recent cases, Husband's anger against wives cheating and Men's anger against gf, lovers cheating has increased.

women can also fling, ons, fool around, flirt and it can be purely sexual, or for benefit.

they hunt better than men and use sex and their body as the exchange.

True, easier for them to hunt as many horny men

[TheWhitePearl]

Originally Posted by Shadow_warrior

ouch brother

been there. agree with your technique. spot on

knowledge comes with painful experience. thats why now i choose to be single until the girl can convince me otherwise.