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19-09-2011, 01:25 AM
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HFJs are truly not for the faint of heart if you want to bed a singer. I do not see them as good ROI, seriously speaking. If you want an ego trip, of course, then that's another story. One patron I know of is going bankrupt and yet still dump his money there. It's really so interesting how a person wants to look good at any cost. 
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20-09-2011, 10:54 AM
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I'm a beginner who is very eager to learn...n working very diligently toward my goals. Cheers! Quote:
Ths for ur post. There r some people out there who need to put up a facade of wealth n status to protect their fragile/damaged ego n profound insecurity/inferiority complex. They would rather die than to lose face. I feel deeply sorry for their pathetic behaviour. My mentor always reminds me to make my ego smaller n smaller every day...he says the smaller the better n when it becomes infinitesimal, I'll hv no worries n only lots of happiness n security, hehehe. Cheers! .................................................. .................................................. ... Good morning! Has anyone here ever been rejected for sex by ur OC/wife/lao po/mistress/er nai/GF/lover/FB/xiao san/xiao mi, etc? It sucks, doesn't? Of course, if u r dominant enuff, they will never say no, even if they r not in the right mood. The best approach is to make them horny all the time, give them regular COS n they will want to fxk u more than u want to fxk them. Men r ready for sex when they r w/ women who find physically attractive. Women r very different. The key to turning them on is anticipation/sexual tension n a man's magic touch, hehehe. What he says n the way he says it is also crucial. I like to share w/ bros here some useful info on a concept known as "All Day Foreplay," written by a famous guru. “All Day Foreplay” The concept of “all day foreplay” is one that I talk about a lot, and it’s one of the most important ideas to get if you want to learn to NEVER be sexually rejected. It is the easiest and most reliable way to get her EMOTIONALLY hot. And, for relationships, it is one of the best ways to make your woman feel appreciated, to make her feel beautiful, to make her feel well cared for, and to make her feel sexy. And when she feels that way, she will want to make you feel great too. Make no mistake about this: TRYING to make each other feel great is very good medicine for any relationship. Unfortunately, the truth is, that the longer you have been in a relationship, the more familiar you become with each other, the more you take each other for granted. Foreplay usually consists of rolling over “going for it” after you finished brushing your teeth and getting into bed. But there is nothing more flattering to a woman than when you take the time to SEDUCE her, to make her feel like you are trying just as hard to get into her pants as you did on your third date. She will respond much more powerfully to your advances if you make the effort to romance her and not just try to fuck her. All of the ideas above are important… You can seduce her with words, with touch, with the way you look at her, with the way you act towards her, or with the emotional messages you send towards her. And if she is feeling frustrated, tense, or pissed off, then you will have to do these things gradually, and work your way through intermediate emotions to make her relaxed or happy or laughing or silly… And then you can turn on the romance and the seduction. She will appreciate you in powerful ways the next morning if you can transition her in this way. Remember this: If a woman says that she is not in the mood to have sex tonight, that statement means absolutely nothing in terms of how she MIGHT feel 30 seconds later. But all of these things are the HARD WAY of going about it. The EASY WAY is “all day foreplay.” When you are doing all day foreplay right it is a lot of fun for both of you. The basic rule—do and say things throughout the day that make her feel sexy. Don’t be concerned with getting her turned on. That is not the point. Don’t be concerned with making her think that YOU are sexy. That is not the point either. Make HER feel sexy and desired, and she will respond immediately when you are ready for sex. Why? Because she will really like being your sexy and desired creature… the object of your affection. And when it is time for making love, she will not want to break that beautiful fantasy. What are some specific things that you could do to create all day foreplay? When she catches you staring at her and asks what you are looking at, tell her that you are just looking at her because she is beautiful. …Or tell her that you are having a sexual fantasy about her. Come up behind her during the day and whisper something in her ear like, “I can’t wait to make love to you later,” or “You’re beautiful,” or “I’m going to eat you alive,” or “You smell good,” or just about anything else that makes her feel sexy and desired. Send her an email, or a text message, or a voice mail saying the same kind of thing if you are at work. But most important of all… TOUCH HER. And touch her often. Women love to be touched. It is a powerful reward to them. And withholding your touch is probably the worst thing you could do for your relationship. Many men have a problem with touching too often. Sure, they’ll touch when it’s time for sex… But when a woman feels like the only time you are touching her is when you want to get laid, she will begin to feel cheap and unloved. She will feel nervous and begin to reject you more. Touch her throughout the day whenever you can. Stroke her hair, give her arm a squeeze, pat her on the ass… and give her hugs as often as you possibly can. Kiss her ear, bite the back of her neck, run you hands over her legs, and if nobody is around, look into her eyes and give softly stroke her breasts. Strong, full-body hugs, showing off a bit of masculine strength while wrapping her up in your arms will make her feel protected and happy… if you hold the hug for more than 20 seconds or so, some studies say that it will cause her body to release the hormone oxytocin, which will make her feel powerfully bonded feelings towards you. And smile at her. Smiles are both contagious and sexy when it comes to all day foreplay. Here’s my personal guarantee: If you touch her twice as much as you do now, she will reject you half as often... Bro WB's 2 cents: The other secret is ANTICIPATION. Go fast n slow n connect-disconnect from her, bro. Be unpredictable n make her laugh. And of course give her regular COS n squirting orgasms. Be careful, she will fall for u, hahaha. Cheers n hv fun! Bro WB
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#2373
22-09-2011, 09:03 AM
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Hi Bro Warbird, how was your catch yesterday? I had a not so shabby catch myself at LV last night and I’m planning to work on it though her singing contract will end in about 3 month’s time. She’s gonna buy me lunch next week so let’s wait and see… that’s her in my avatar and I have also MMS you…
Btw, LV is celebrating its 8th anniversary the whole of this week so they are providing buffet for HH and SH, and the place is overflowing with so many gals. But not to be too happy, about 30 to 40% of them really CMI, just there to try their luck but like you said, one man’s meat is another man’s poison.
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#2374
22-09-2011, 11:22 AM
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The Choices We Make, Dictate The Life We Lead!!! The 4 Golden Rules in life: 1) 不要欺骗自己 2) 不要出卖自己 3) 不要背叛自己 4) 不要对不起自己 是你的，就是你的。 不是你的，不要抢！ 人之所以快乐，不是因为得到的多、而是因为计较的少 Officially Retired From The Nite Scene
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22-09-2011, 02:59 PM
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22-09-2011, 03:41 PM
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The Choices We Make, Dictate The Life We Lead!!! The 4 Golden Rules in life: 1) 不要欺骗自己 2) 不要出卖自己 3) 不要背叛自己 4) 不要对不起自己 是你的，就是你的。 不是你的，不要抢！ 人之所以快乐，不是因为得到的多、而是因为计较的少 Officially Retired From The Nite Scene
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22-09-2011, 03:44 PM
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22-09-2011, 04:10 PM
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The Choices We Make, Dictate The Life We Lead!!! The 4 Golden Rules in life: 1) 不要欺骗自己 2) 不要出卖自己 3) 不要背叛自己 4) 不要对不起自己 是你的，就是你的。 不是你的，不要抢！ 人之所以快乐，不是因为得到的多、而是因为计较的少 Officially Retired From The Nite Scene
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23-09-2011, 10:49 AM
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I was indeed my good fortune to run into u at TAM complex 2 days ago. I guess u were too busy to come to my rm on the 1st fl to say hello. I didn't call the tall gal I met outside the lift. I found another gal YY who is also 169, quite chio w/ nice figure. She said no ST, but I was able to massage her neck n kissed her lips, in front of my lao po TC, hehehe. I need to find time to ST her. You got a singer? High friction cost...but good luck! BTW, I didn't receive ur MMS. Cheers! Quote:
Hahaha, are there any singers u dun know? Cheers! Quote:
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.................................................. .................................................. ....... Good morning! Went to DC HH yesterday to celebrate mummy D's birthday. I was surprised that there were so many gals n not that many customers. There were 7 bros/frens who joined me for the fun. Quite a young crowd as 4 bros/frens were in their 20s. I got 2 gals to butterfly plus I had my other lao po XW w/ me. TC called me at 8PM as her frens saw me there. So what? I'm going to do SF w/ XW n TC, finally. I like one of the new gals. She is a 20 yo student from Fujian. Very sexy n youthful body. Must also find time to up her. My young former sidekick asked me: Why r all ur gals so obedient to u? My answer: I pay them well n I fxxk them well. The real secret is my improved self mastery. At this time I like to recommend a great e-book: David X's Be Relentless. I'll quote some of his writings from time to time to whet ur appetite: I lived in Texas for two years and when I came back to Montreal I called up this woman that I used to go out with. And she was extremely pissed off at me for just getting up and leaving without telling her goodbye. I said, “You were the first one I called. I’m looking at my list and you came in with the highest rating. Now is there a chance for me to come over or not? I’m too horny to argue.” She said, “Come over.” So I went over and fucked her. After I finished, she sqwaked for another two hours. I let her complain (who cares what they say) while I went to sleep. In the morning she made me breakfast and sqwaked for another two hours. Finally I asked, “How long do I have to take your complaining for? How much sqwaking is two years in Texas worth?” And she said, “I’m almost done.” How much is two years in Texas worth? Yes I didn’t call. Yeah, I fucked tons of other women. No, I wasn’t thinking about you. Yeah yeah yeah. You’re so right honey! Ok, fine, she’s right. I’m a terrible man. But they like bad boys. Remember that Seinfeld episode when George was the bad boy? He decided to do the complete opposite of what he had always done, and all of a sudden he had more women than ever. It’s a fact that women like bad boys. Now, every once in a while, and especially as you learn to develop this attitude, a woman might tell you that she loves you. And if you say, "I love you too", then you're fucked! You might as well chop off your dick and hand it to her..... Remember: He who loves least controls the relationship. I have only said, "I love you" to two women in my life. I married them both. I tell them, "I’ll tell you that I love you when I’m putting a ring on your finger.” When you set a precedence you have to stick to your guns. If you tell her no, then later on for whatever reason you allow her, she will view you as weak. Give them an inch and they will take a mile. Stop making excuses and stop making exceptions. When you set a precedence you can't go back. One of the big diseases that happens to men that are in a relationship is laziness. You have to do what YOU want relentlessly. You cannot give in ever. They want the strength and they will love you for it. You always have to be on top of the situation. What happens to most guys is that once they fuck her, they doze off. They get lazy. Your comments? I want to be relentless... Cheers! Bro WB
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23-09-2011, 01:24 PM
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Bro WB,
No no no, the honor and pleasure is all mine, to have bumped into you, Bro WB! Actually I did receive your SMS reply telling me that you will be at TAM HH that very same day but my iBlacklist was so flooded with messages it just got lost and buried among other SMSes/calls (those with JB iPhones would probably know what I’m talking about) and it was only when I was home that night that I saw your message. The friend I was with that evening, I haven’t seen him for a year (and more than 3 years since we last chiong KTVs together), and it was so hard to get him out now that he is married (and held hostage) to a ex-MMSan (long-story) and I didn’t want to leave him alone waiting for me for too long. Yes, I was too busy once I got the gal to sit with me. When I entered the room at 6:30pm, I didn’t leave the room until almost 10pm! Not even to go to the toilet, which was just beside our room! The gal, KX, also never leave the room until we left. She can really sing, Chinese songs, Hokkien songs, Cantonese songs but she is not a singer. Just to clarify – she got here on a 6-months singer pass from another outlet which, according to her, she has never been to, and never required to… she just goes to work at Havelock Road. I pass her my (i)phone and asked her to take pics of herself which she gladly obliged. We took some pics together too but no worries, I stored them all in my iDiscrete app. Hehehe. I am planning to show them to my regular gal to make her jealous and keep her on her toes. What do you think? Hehehe. Btw, I email you the pic yesterday… wonder if you received it. I’d love to meet luminaries like Bro DYBJ and the rest, and I know their reputation and vast experience and I try to find time to read the HFJ thread. I’m not into hanging flowers and as you know me, I’m a miser and will not incur high friction cost. I’m not rich (yet) to begin with. The only reason I can think of for people to throw big money in HFJs is to launder money – I was told by a celebrity I bonked recently. We were chatting away after the deed and she was telling me how one of her guy friend, who despite being on the brink of being declared a bankrupt, is still going to these joints to hang flowers to a singer he has the hots for. And the reason he can still hang flowers is becos he was hanging on credit. And so if he can’t pay up, the singer has to make good the promise to the company. She said she will bring me to a HFJ next time, hahaha.
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23-09-2011, 05:13 PM
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24-09-2011, 11:25 AM
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Ah, KX is very nice. Just up her. Abt the celebrity u mentioned, is she my type? Is she under 25, over 165 w/ proportionate body, slim arms, long straight legs, perky ass n at least natural B boobs? If so, I'm interested. BTW, you're young, tall n handsome. If I had half ur good looks, I won't be able to keep SYTs from stalking me, hahaha. Cheers! Quote:
About 2/3 of big spenders at KTVs/HFJs r those in the cash business.I hv more to say abt this. Cheers! .................................................. .................................................. ..... Good morning! I hv noticed that many of my regular kakis/bros/frens r not spending as much n r shunning more expensive joints. Some bros/frens hv definitely fallen on hard times, due to business failures, stock declines, gambling losses, etc. Of the new bros who hv joined my outings recently, a few r well heeled. One young man appears to be from a rich family, even though he is quite frugal. I like him very much as he understands that we must minimize the friction cost of living n all business transactions. Although the bookies n ah longs r big spenders at KTVs/HFJs n appear to be flushed w/ cash. They can never be truly rich. Why? Four reasons. Firstly, they squander their money. Secondly, it's difficult for them to invest n grow their money legally. Thirdly, they lack the knowledge , experience n education to invest successfully. Fourthly, the risks of running an illegal business r real. Their assets could be seized n they could spend time at Changi, hahaha. As men we should go after what we want, be it money, status, fame, power, good health, love, peace, happiness, pussies... BE RELENTLESS. At this time, I like to share some pearls from David X's Be Relentless: TWO RULES, NOT TWO HUNDRED I’m giving you two rules. Not two-hundred. TWO. Who cares what she thinks, and you are the most important person in the relationship. And at first, they sound like two very stupid rules. But everytime you hear them, they start to make more and more sense to you. If you don’t care what she thinks, then your fears are gone. And if you truly believe that you are the most important person in the relationship, then you start to take responsibility for your own life. It forces you to be strong, decisive, honest and congruent. What you decide is up to you. I’m not telling you to be me, I’m telling you to be you. You’re not being rude to her by not caring what she says. There’s a façade of nonsense that people put out, and you don’t know if they’re playing games or fucking with you. These two rules are your shield from all that shit. These rules really have a way of cutting through all the crap. Men are free until they get married, and women are free when they get married. Once I was dating this girl who said, “Either we have to get married, or I won’t sleep with you anymore.” And I felt bad. Here was this woman telling me that she loves me, that she wants to spend the rest of her life with me. She wanted all of me, and if I couldn’t give that to her, then she would leave me forever. A lot of guys actually got stuck that way. They fell for that line. But what was this woman really saying to me? She was really saying, “Do what I say, puppy! Marry me so that I can use sex to control you for the rest of your life.” Now, if you had a harem of 5 or 6 women, and a woman said that to you, what would you say? "Goodbye!" A lot of guys are afraid to look at the women that attract them. They're afraid she might get upset. If I’m watching a porno movie, if I feel like it, I might start jerking off. Do I care what the TV thinks? I don’t care what anybody thinks. Period. When I say ‘who cares’, I live it. If she can’t handle me looking at her, what the fuck do I want her for? Tell me to fuck off anytime. Try me. I don’t care. If you don’t care, you can just let go and have a good time. What do I have to lose if they get 'offended'? I can only gain. When you’re trying to pick up a chick, no matter what you do, you can ONLY GAIN. You can’t have less than zero. If you care what they think of you, then you can’t go further. And if you can’t be honest and straightforward about what you want, you can’t succeed with women. This whole book is just a way of explaining the two rules. It always comes back to the two basic rules. If you can integrate those two rules into your life, it frees you from Fear Prison. Cheers! Bro WB
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26-09-2011, 10:02 AM
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Yes, KX is quite cute. If I up her now, no difference from ST. Prefer to KC her a little first, so that I can milk some GFE out of her, haha. Brought her out last Saturday to a very nice and quaint little place for a drink. She never asked (or hinted) for any “compensation”… I like I know the type you want bro WB but unfortunately, the celeb is not your type. She is not exactly my type either, but unlike you, I am not a choosey eater, hahaha. Well, I RTF her because we clicked and whenever we meet up, we catch up on things in our lives, she hears me out, etc., basically, there’s lots of communication, all in the privacy of a 5 star hotel room. And we still SMS and FB (FaceBook) each other. I had this crazy idea of turning her into a FB (not FaceBook), you know, bonking a celeb is one thing, been there done that, but having a celeb as a FB, now that would be upping it a notch, another achievement for me. But my friend promptly shot me down when I told him my intentions and he reprimanded me for trying to negotiate a lower price (which I did without success, hahaha). He said I don’t know the going rates (for celebs) and that if I can have the cheek to bargain (or can’t afford to pay her price) “then obviously she is not your type and you are not her type of client”, he told me off. Well, if I have achieved Shifu WB’s Self Mastery, nothing is impossible anymore, right? Hahaha! Bro, if like you said, I am twice as handsome as you, explain why no gals stalk me? Hahaha. Maybe I haven’t achieved self mastery yet, hahaha.
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26-09-2011, 10:19 AM
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Well, I haven’t been to a HFJ except the main hall at LV (and other KTVs)… to me, it just make no sense to throw $$$ at singers thinking that they will go to bed with you, or thinking you can outbid those people who are there to launder money. The way I see it, its an ego trip I can do without. I prefer to give my already limited cash more mileage… hehehe. Bad times are ahead of us, so if want to chiong, must chiong wisely…
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26-09-2011, 10:53 AM
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Not all are from the illegal biz trade la
There are some from perfectly legit backgrounds and perfectly legit businesses. But then again, LV is known for having a "SPECIAL" kinda clientele base unlike across the road at 5th floor hehe
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The Choices We Make, Dictate The Life We Lead!!! The 4 Golden Rules in life: 1) 不要欺骗自己 2) 不要出卖自己 3) 不要背叛自己 4) 不要对不起自己 是你的，就是你的。 不是你的，不要抢！ 人之所以快乐，不是因为得到的多、而是因为计较的少 Officially Retired From The Nite Scene
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learned a few pointers from you. thanks!
