Hanoi

[deptrai4u]

Originally Posted by ThunderPriest

Yup... think I saw it, although i have never eaten there. Now that you mention it, phai thu

The steak is good... pasta so so.. but the horrendeous thing is the Fried Rice cost VND120,000!!! Yes, it taste a bit better than normal.. but definitely not worth that kind of price!

At Chien Beo, the place is run down, so its NOT fine dining concept.. you feel like sitting in the kitchen, watch the cooking, eat, pay and go.

So, if you eat there, go for the steak, avoid the seafood fried rice.

[ThunderPriest]

Originally Posted by deptrai4u

The steak is good... pasta so so.. but the horrendeous thing is the Fried Rice cost VND120,000!!! Yes, it taste a bit better than normal.. but definitely not worth that kind of price!

At Chien Beo, the place is run down, so its NOT fine dining concept.. you feel like sitting in the kitchen, watch the cooking, eat, pay and go.

So, if you eat there, go for the steak, avoid the seafood fried rice.

Wah... and I just had fried rice for lunch for 22K... complete with char siew and soup.

[etct88]

Originally Posted by ThunderPriest

Wah... and I just had fried rice for lunch for 22K... complete with char siew and soup.

wow, really miss some of the roadside food... I remember eating duck dip in salt and lemon sauce, somewhere at a junction, have big moonson drain. Eating in squatting nor sitting position. Farking stool is onli 6"..... While eating have to tahan the smell from the big loong kang......

wow.... must go 'home'... liao......

[retsoor]

The owner of Chien Beo used to be a saucier at Sofitel Plaza, he's a good with steaks. I agree with DepTrai, you go there for steaks, not for the beautiful surroundings.

I need to stay away from a girl for a few days, ignore her. I need distraction. So, as a distraction, I thought I'd try a new technique on another girl - reverse psychology. Instead of using sexual subtext, being cocky, using double entendre, I am just going to say "I am not really interested in sex".

field report from yahoo chat today - see how reverse psychology works, she opens up beautifully, and says she really likes sex!

me (3/12/2009 2:16:29 PM): A girl just claimed that I know about women's psychology
her (3/12/2009 2:17:29 PM): you are interested in women?
me (3/12/2009 2:17:43 PM): women are more intelligent than men in some ways
me (3/12/2009 2:17:51 PM): in a social setting
me (3/12/2009 2:18:00 PM): I always had more female than male friends.
me (3/12/2009 2:18:07 PM): of course I am interested in women.
me (3/12/2009 2:18:29 PM): I love words.
me (3/12/2009 2:18:31 PM): reading
me (3/12/2009 2:18:34 PM): writing
me (3/12/2009 2:18:37 PM): languages
me (3/12/2009 2:18:50 PM): most women have much more talent for that than men
me (3/12/2009 2:18:54 PM): on average.
her (3/12/2009 2:19:02 PM): i believe it's quite different
her (3/12/2009 2:19:12 PM): between s.o who is interested in women
her (3/12/2009 2:19:35 PM): and s.o who, how to say it, damned, love women
me (3/12/2009 2:19:38 PM): so what did you ask about?
her (3/12/2009 2:20:25 PM): for example, there are guys who are seeking for gf
her (3/12/2009 2:20:27 PM): s.o nice
me (3/12/2009 2:20:31 PM): many women seem to belive that all men want to sleep with them
me (3/12/2009 2:20:36 PM): but that's a different story
her (3/12/2009 2:20:54 PM): there are others who wants to encounter them as a whole
her (3/12/2009 2:21:07 PM): amused by the variety
me (3/12/2009 2:21:10 PM): yes
me (3/12/2009 2:21:23 PM): I try to explain that to some male friends sometimes
me (3/12/2009 2:21:27 PM): and they don't understand me
her (3/12/2009 2:21:28 PM): or by their difference from the other sex
me (3/12/2009 2:21:39 PM): women understand me better there, usually
me (3/12/2009 2:22:13 PM): sex itself is terribly overrated
me (3/12/2009 2:22:19 PM): if I was on a lonely island
me (3/12/2009 2:22:34 PM): I would much rather have someone interesting to talk to
me (3/12/2009 2:22:41 PM): than someone to have sex with.
me (3/12/2009 2:22:48 PM): if I had to chose.
her (3/12/2009 2:22:49 PM): count me on the other group <-- HERE SHE GOES
her (3/12/2009 2:22:54 PM): hehe
her (3/12/2009 2:23:00 PM): i don't believe much in words
me (3/12/2009 2:23:09 PM): oh, you do.
me (3/12/2009 2:23:15 PM): you don't fool me.
her (3/12/2009 2:23:22 PM): i prefer to stay with s.o i feel comfortable when we don't talk
her (3/12/2009 2:23:31 PM): i feel
her (3/12/2009 2:23:39 PM): words deceive me
her (3/12/2009 2:23:48 PM): as it does to everybody
me (3/12/2009 2:23:49 PM): so why do you chat so much?
me (3/12/2009 2:23:53 PM): you want to be deceived?
her (3/12/2009 2:24:05 PM): i found it interesting
me (3/12/2009 2:24:20 PM): it is. that's what I said.
her (3/12/2009 2:24:24 PM): but it's always nice to stop thinking <---- HERE SHE GOES AGAIN
her (3/12/2009 2:24:34 PM): and lie down, cuddling
me (3/12/2009 2:24:35 PM): I drink to stop thinking
me (3/12/2009 2:24:40 PM): it works very well
me (3/12/2009 2:24:55 PM): I can teach you to stop thinking. By drinking, I mean.

she's ripe.

[dreamtent]

Originally Posted by naemlo

U guys went supper? Anyway, good evening outing.

Feeling a bit empty and cold ma! we stop by a little store between LangHa and GiangVo.
Had Loh Mi Fan! nice...

[retsoor]

the so called 9x generation in VN loves playing with words, and rhymes...

I just made my own 9x style sentence:

Em xinh em đứng một mình vẫn xinh xắn như con rắn

[retsoor]

Wow. Suddenly all the gals at Relax II are wearing nice dresses. You should check it out.

I usually don't like Relax II very much, but now the girls look much better. Nice, tight sitting dresses.

That just inspired me...I'm going to Saigon for a date tomorrow...I'll send her a msg..."I hope you will not dress like some nha que girl when you go out with me!"

I know she will hate me for saying that.

[jackbl]

U pretty u stand alone still pretty, roll up like snake.... what does this means? Botay??!!

Originally Posted by retsoor

I just made my own 9x style sentence:

Em xinh em đứng một mình vẫn xinh xắn như con rắn

[retsoor]

Originally Posted by jackbl

U pretty u stand alone still pretty, roll up like snake.... what does this means? Botay??!!

yes, exact translation.

Em xinh em đứng một mình vẫn xinh

you're pretty - you stand alone - still pretty

the 1st part is romantic, girls love that part; while 1 minh is almost an insult, all viet girls dream of a good husband/bf, and remininding them of being mot minh makes them dream about love, but it ends in "you're still pretty" (=you're kind of a loser, alone, but I still like you), so it's nice. hearing this will make a girl happy. they think you are saying nice things to them. and the sentence has a certain rhyme to it, it sounds good. Try to speak it.

then...the 2nd part

xinh xắn như con rắn

again, nice rhyme (xan - ran).

but exactly as you said "pretty, rolled up like a snake. "

snakes are not pretty, they're ugly, venomous, clever - and sometimes tempting creatures. girls will be surprised about the ending...and furious to hear that. just like her: http://hosted.pikipimp.com/pimped_ph...8/compiled.gif ... I just deleted 3 phone numbers today, including hers ... if I hear from her again ... I'll have to say "and who are you?"

[Sexrider]

Originally Posted by dreamtent

Feeling a bit empty and cold ma! we stop by a little store between LangHa and GiangVo.
Had Loh Mi Fan! nice...

Wow! Bro, envy you that you can chiong in Hanoi!

[jackbl]

U playboy of hanoi ha...

Originally Posted by retsoor

... I just deleted 3 phone numbers today, including hers ... if I hear from her again ... I'll have to say "and who are you?"

[deptrai4u]

Originally Posted by jackbl

U playboy of hanoi ha...

That playboy must have sold his soul to the devil and now he acquire the skills of attracting all the beautiful girls in Hanoi till his handphone run out of memory and have to delete low priorities ones to make room for new exciting ones... haizz... left not many for us already...

So brudders who are going to Hanoi and needs to learn how to fish in Hanoi... you know who to PM... ;-) Restoor is a very fun person to hang out with and amongst all the seniors that I know in Hanoi, this guy has the longest stamina.. Friday and Saturday usually goes home in time for breakfast.

[jackbl]

Heard u also one of his kaki.... and 1 of his teacher

Originally Posted by deptrai4u

That playboy must have sold his soul to the devil and now he acquire the skills of attracting all the beautiful girls in Hanoi till .....

[naemlo]

Originally Posted by deptrai4u

So brudders who are going to Hanoi and needs to learn how to fish in Hanoi... you know who to PM... ;-)

Friend, I planning another trip to Hanoi next week. 4 trips to Vietnam for the past few weeks. Will give u a call when I'm free. I should be in Hanoi from Tue to Fri then go over to BKK or HCMC for the weekend.

[retsoor]

I tried some more deep sea fishing. DepTrai pointed me to everything I needed to know, now I am trying to practice the skills.

Models and goodlooking girls from rich families know they are attractive. They refuse men because they can. Even if you act confident, friendly, cocky and funny towards them, they WILL reject you. The techniques to handle them are simple, cheap and quick. No money and time lost. And I think similar rejection handling techniques can be used on all girls...also girls at 17 or relax II who reject to have sex with you.

#1 They refuse to give you their phone number

Easy. Just ask again.
These girls are testing you to see if you are a real man.
So act confident, smile, and say something like "Wow, you really don't have a phone? You must be very nha que...(wait)...Look, here's a pen and paper. Just write down your yahoo chat nick. Don't be afraid, it's not going to hurt." When she is writing the chat nick, say "ok, and now you put the phone number right below here". 99% of the time it will work.

#2 girl cancels 1st date

This is a no-no. Delete her number and move on. Either you did something wrong before - or more likely has huge problems in the mind and isn't worth your energy.

#3 girl cancels 2nd or 3rd or 4th date.

THIS WILL ALWAYS HAPPEN with model etc. And it will happen only hours before the time you agreed to meet. Don't worry - it's just a test again. The girl wants to confirm that you are a real man.

So, don't get angry. Don't be sad. Don't do anything stupid. Act like you don't care. If she calls you on the day of your date, don't pick up the phone. Wait a few hours, think about what to say, and call back later when you are confident about how to handle it. If she sends you a msg that day, wait before you reply.

I usually send a msg like this:

"You are really afraid to meet a perfect and attractive man like me! Don't worry, I'll treat you like shit, that will make it easier for you to forget me when I dump you".

Women love this message. They think it's funny, they think it's not like what other men say. Now just wait a few day, then ask her out again in a firm way, like "meet me tuesday or thursday evening, I am busy on wednesday".

#4 girl cancels another date...AGAIN

Usually you should forget her. But some girls who really think they are very perfect will repeat their test. And they will not accept the exact same rejection handling again. A text message is cheap, so you can say something like this "Do you really want I delete your phone number?"

I just did that. A girl canceled 2 out of 5 dates in within 3 weeks. The 2nd cancellation msg was "Sorry I have to go to my que. A relative just died. I will be back in 2 days". I just replied "ok", then after 2 days I wrote to her "Meet me Wednesday or Friday evening, at XY cafe. Or do you really want I delete your phone number?"

I got an immediate reply to that one. "No, never (crying face). I have something for you. Do you have free time tomorrow?"

I almost wanted to say thank you.. but I didn't, after thinking for 5 seconds. So I wrote "no free time tomorrow, I'm in Saigon baby. I already deleted you on my new phone, you were lucky I used my old phone today. Meet me Wednesday evening"

follow up

Wednesday she will probably again not send any msg to me, to see if I beg her to meet her. I plan to wait until the afternoon, if I don't hear from her I will send this: "Why should I never delete your number? You really think you are so perfect? I don't believe you. You need to show me that. Today [time and place]"

That day, I will remind her she needs to show me why I should be interested in her. If she wants to give me that gift right away, I will say "wait wait wait, now first you show me what makes you so special, then you pay the bill for us, and then we'll see about the gift". If it won't work out, at least I had some cheap fun, and get to practice.

To get phone numbers, and to date high maintenance girls....you need to handle rejection. The same goes for sex. Most will refuse that too - so I need to practice my rejection handling skills to let me touch them to make them hot. Whatever they reject can be handled in the same way. Just act confident, relaxed, make a joke if you can, tell her you don't really care too much about her, and that she needs to chase you. Quite a few will. But it's still a numbers game. Some will reject no matter what. So like in sales you need a pipeline, enough prospects, so you can forget and move on in case of serious resistance, you don't want to waste time. But some deals will work out. And luckily, text messages are quick and cheap.