How To Get And Keep Attractive Gals Of Your Type

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Originally Posted by warbird

What hv I learned in 21 months of BY-ing?

When a man becomes enamored w/ a gal for whatever reason, he loses his objectivity n rationality n will attach great value to her pussy...and he will end up paying dearly.

If a man realizes that all pussies, including very beautiful ones, are fungible commodities n are expendable, he will never be KC-ed by any of them.


Cheers!

Bro WB

My dear Guru WB, you have indeed evolved into a Class A predator, thus, kudos to you, Master WarBird

[fallen.angel]

Originally Posted by warbird

What hv I learned in 21 months of BY-ing?

When a man becomes enamored w/ a gal for whatever reason, he loses his objectivity n rationality n will attach great value to her pussy...and he will end up paying dearly.

If a man realizes that all pussies, including very beautiful ones, are fungible commodities n are expendable, he will never be KC-ed by any of them.
Cheers!

Bro WB

Well said bro WB!

Just an update on my issue at hand - my gal’s request to increase her pay (per fxxk) by $100:

Economics (for KTV PRC mms) 101:

Last night, she SMSed me and asked if we are going to have a sexxion this morning but I said no. I wanted to let off some steam after a weekend but I played it cool. Instead, I had lunch with her just now and raised the topic again.

I told her she doesn’t spend a lot here, but proportionately, sends home more money. I explained to her how all countries fight inflation with one of two things – 利率或汇率 (interest rates and FX) and Singapore having imported most of the inflation, fights more effectively using FX. I said lucky for her, S$ has appreciated against the RMB and will continue to do so (China being so reluctant to appreciate against the US$) and that every S$10,000 she remits back, she now gets RMB4,600 more than she did previously.

Told her a lot of other things, like how after removing prices of COE, the Singapore CPI has only risen 2 to 3%, etc etc. I then reiterated how it is entirely her decision and power/right to set her price, but as a consumer, I have choice. She wasn’t very happy to hear that. She said she told her MMS: “如果小费没有三百就别叫我坐台“！Very corky and arrogant indeed, something only gals (MILF or SYT) who know that they are hot property could afford to say such things but am I going to relent and give in?

Certainly not. Not after I’ve read and learnt from this great thread and also initially got blasted by some senior bros like DYBJ and LDH for being a mr nice guy. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not going to be nasty. I just want to assert myself and not be lead by my nose. Who is going to lose if she stand firms her price and I don’t get my sexxions? Not me. But if I give in, then I’ll lose big time! And it is not monetary. I would have totally lost control of my emotions. No more self-mastery for me!

I said even for Cat150 gals from GL, the girls are as young as 22, 23, 24 and that if their business is not good, they will even downgrade themselves to Cat80. She was angry and said it is different, how can you compare me with GL. So I told her: OK, so what’s the difference? Of cos deep inside, all of us bros know the difference, that even if the KTV gal is not exclusive, they are not as “used” as the GL gals. One thing is for sure – they set their price and they pick their customer. She kept quiet. Either she couldn’t answer or she didn’t want to stoop that low to argue with me.

In the end she said: 你要来就来，不要来就算了。

I didn’t answer her. Of cos I want! But only on my terms.

[teebs_darklord]

Originally Posted by warbird

Hi bro TD,

Very successful BY-ing!

TC has been my lucky charm so far. Must be fate or predestined affinity...
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Good morning!

I'm not BY-ing FF bcos she is only 17 according to her passport. I guess I may hv to add her to the list of gals who hv consented to BY but I wont or couldnt consummate the deal, at least for now. I hv not given up yet since she is so cute n so fresh...my didi becomes very stiff just thinking of her. I'm checking w/ my lawyers to find a solution. She is leaving SG soon. I may hv to wait till the 2nd half of the yr when she turns 18. If I take her out for dinner n only french her, am I breaking any laws? I'll tell her to apply for a student visa.

What hv I learned in 21 months of BY-ing?

When a man becomes enamored w/ a gal for whatever reason, he loses his objectivity n rationality n will attach great value to her pussy...and he will end up paying dearly.

If a man realizes that all pussies, including very beautiful ones, are fungible commodities n are expendable, he will never be KC-ed by any of them.


Cheers!

Bro WB

Bro WB,

I would put all my successes to BY-ing in the past down to pure and simple luck...

The secret in my opinion for successfully BY-ing or KC-ing a gal is basically to make them feel that they are your one and only during the time when you are BY-ing or KC-ing them. And for that reason, I do not BY or KC two gals at the same time if they are both in Singapore.

I've had spectacular failures in the past also but I treated those as learning experiences.

One of my ex cheong buddies once told me, the ultimate in KC-ing a gal is to let yourself fall in love with her but to maintain control of your feelings at all times because as he said, it is only this way that you can twist her around your little finger anytime you want and she will never leave you until the day you dump her...

Bro WB, you are indeed one of the masters of BY-ing gals here...

[teebs_darklord]

Originally Posted by fallen.angel

Well said bro WB!

Just an update on my issue at hand - my gal’s request to increase her pay (per fxxk) by $100:

Economics (for KTV PRC mms) 101:

Last night, she SMSed me and asked if we are going to have a sexxion this morning but I said no. I wanted to let off some steam after a weekend but I played it cool. Instead, I had lunch with her just now and raised the topic again.

I told her she doesn’t spend a lot here, but proportionately, sends home more money. I explained to her how all countries fight inflation with one of two things – 利率或汇率 (interest rates and FX) and Singapore having imported most of the inflation, fights more effectively using FX. I said lucky for her, S$ has appreciated against the RMB and will continue to do so (China being so reluctant to appreciate against the US$) and that every S$10,000 she remits back, she now gets RMB4,600 more than she did previously.

Told her a lot of other things, like how after removing prices of COE, the Singapore CPI has only risen 2 to 3%, etc etc. I then reiterated how it is entirely her decision and power/right to set her price, but as a consumer, I have choice. She wasn’t very happy to hear that. She said she told her MMS: “如果小费没有三百就别叫我坐台“！Very corky and arrogant indeed, something only gals (MILF or SYT) who know that they are hot property could afford to say such things but am I going to relent and give in?

Certainly not. Not after I’ve read and learnt from this great thread and also initially got blasted by some senior bros like DYBJ and LDH for being a mr nice guy. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not going to be nasty. I just want to assert myself and not be lead by my nose. Who is going to lose if she stand firms her price and I don’t get my sexxions? Not me. But if I give in, then I’ll lose big time! And it is not monetary. I would have totally lost control of my emotions. No more self-mastery for me!

I said even for Cat150 gals from GL, the girls are as young as 22, 23, 24 and that if their business is not good, they will even downgrade themselves to Cat80. She was angry and said it is different, how can you compare me with GL. So I told her: OK, so what’s the difference? Of cos deep inside, all of us bros know the difference, that even if the KTV gal is not exclusive, they are not as “used” as the GL gals. One thing is for sure – they set their price and they pick their customer. She kept quiet. Either she couldn’t answer or she didn’t want to stoop that low to argue with me.

In the end she said: 你要来就来，不要来就算了。

I didn’t answer her. Of cos I want! But only on my terms.

Bro, I didn't read your previous posts so I'm quite confused by your term "pay per fuck"???

Anyway, arguing with a KTV gal or FL/WL for that matter about economics is going to be a waste of time. They won't or don't understand these concepts because to them, they only care about how much they will get at the end of the day.

You should have just simply told her that the amount she is expecting from you is unreasonable and the existing rate is what you are prepared to give. Tell her if she expects any extra, she can fuck off.

[fallen.angel]

Originally Posted by teebs_darklord

Bro, I didn't read your previous posts so I'm quite confused by your term "pay per fuck"???

Anyway, arguing with a KTV gal or FL/WL for that matter about economics is going to be a waste of time. They won't or don't understand these concepts because to them, they only care about how much they will get at the end of the day.

You should have just simply told her that the amount she is expecting from you is unreasonable and the existing rate is what you are prepared to give. Tell her if she expects any extra, she can fuck off.

Haha, yes, rest assured I told her that - except I didn't ask her to fxxk off. Cos I still enjoy the arrangement and don't want to sour the relationship.

Last time, I pay her a fixed monthly income but that wasn’t favorable for me cos she dictates how often I can go to her place to make out. But with a ppf (per per fxxk) arrangement, she begins to want me to go to her place more often than I want to! Haha!

Although what I pay her per sexxion is more than Cat150, it will level off if I stay longer than an hour. If we fxxk for more than 2 hours, then I'm above water - in that sense. This of cos she doesn’t know. So even when I complain to her that her service cost more than the SYTs in GL, I don't really mind.

GL is about 30 mins from my work place, and even longer from my house. Hers' only 10 mins from my house or work place.

GL opens about 1230 with WLs waking up and starting work only around 1pm. For me, I get mine whenever I want - mostly very early in the morning before work, like 630am. Or during lunch hours. Or before I head back home from work. Or at night.

Also most importantly, the chemistry we share in bed cannot be duplicated in GL.

[teebs_darklord]

Originally Posted by fallen.angel

Haha, yes, rest assured I told her that - except I didn't ask her to fxxk off. Cos I still enjoy the arrangement and don't want to sour the relationship.

Last time, I pay her a fixed monthly income but that wasn’t favorable for me cos she dictates how often I can go to her place to make out. But with a ppf (per per fxxk) arrangement, she begins to want me to go to her place more often than I want to! Haha!

Although what I pay her per sexxion is more than Cat150, it will level off if I stay longer than an hour. If we fxxk for more than 2 hours, then I'm above water - in that sense. This of cos she doesn’t know. So even when I complain to her that her service cost more than the SYTs in GL, I don't really mind.

GL is about 30 mins from my work place, and even longer from my house. Hers' only 10 mins from my house or work place.

GL opens about 1230 with WLs waking up and starting work only around 1pm. For me, I get mine whenever I want - mostly very early in the morning before work, like 630am. Or during lunch hours. Or before I head back home from work. Or at night.

Also most importantly, the chemistry we share in bed cannot be duplicated in GL.

Bro, u shouldn't worry about telling her to fuck off...

My experience tells me that even if you tell her to fuck off 10 times in a row, the chances of her actually fucking off is close to ZERO. Of course this presumes that she does harbor some feelings for you OR you are the main source of income for her.

Pay per fuck basically makes it a monetary transaction. No different from getting WLs or FLs in my opinion. The only reason why she prefers pay per fuck is that she knows that you will go over to her place most of the time when she calls you to go. In this case, she actually makes more money from you.

You are wrong to say that chemistry in bed cannot be replicated in GL or with other FLs for that matter. It can but you must have a regular gal there.

[MoralEpitome]

Originally Posted by teebs_darklord

Bro, u shouldn't worry about telling her to fuck off...

My experience tells me that even if you tell her to fuck off 10 times in a row, the chances of her actually fucking off is close to ZERO. Of course this presumes that she does harbor some feelings for you OR you are the main source of income for her.

Pay per fuck basically makes it a monetary transaction. No different from getting WLs or FLs in my opinion. The only reason why she prefers pay per fuck is that she knows that you will go over to her place most of the time when she calls you to go. In this case, she actually makes more money from you.

You are wrong to say that chemistry in bed cannot be replicated in GL or with other FLs for that matter. It can but you must have a regular gal there.

Although I don't go for GL bonks but I heard the level of service is tok gong and they can easily give you gf feeling....I am referring to the $150 PRC CAT A ones....since I am retired from KTVs do you have any reccomendations?

[teebs_darklord]

Originally Posted by MoralEpitome

Although I don't go for GL bonks but I heard the level of service is tok gong and they can easily give you gf feeling....I am referring to the $150 PRC CAT A ones....since I am retired from KTVs do you have any reccomendations?

Bro, dun bullshit me about your retiring from KTVs lah...

Anyway, I have retired from GL $150 for many years already...

You may want to check this thread for recommendations:

http://sammy.services/showthread.php?t=112609

Nowadays just go for FLs...

[Omega]

Originally Posted by fallen.angel

I didn’t answer her. Of cos I want! But only on my terms.

Well said Bro

[fallen.angel]

Originally Posted by teebs_darklord

Bro, u shouldn't worry about telling her to fuck off...

My experience tells me that even if you tell her to fuck off 10 times in a row, the chances of her actually fucking off is close to ZERO. Of course this presumes that she does harbor some feelings for you OR you are the main source of income for her.

Pay per fuck basically makes it a monetary transaction. No different from getting WLs or FLs in my opinion. The only reason why she prefers pay per fuck is that she knows that you will go over to her place most of the time when she calls you to go. In this case, she actually makes more money from you.

You are wrong to say that chemistry in bed cannot be replicated in GL or with other FLs for that matter. It can but you must have a regular gal there.

Haha, yes bro, you are very experienced, yes indeed I have told her off many times but in the end she still ended up coming back but that’s not what I want to do now – to lose my temper or composure (that’s losing control). I’m playing it real cool and nonchalant to test out the theories posted here.

Yes, pay per fuck or pay per month, like prepaid or post-paid phones, they are all monetary transactions, what’s the difference? Except to her, she takes it that I’m just taking care of her. To me, cut to the chase, no need to bullshit me. Yes, she can earn more from me sometimes some months, but not all the time. At least, I don’t pay extra, or have to ask for a sexxion.

Ha, talk about having a regular in GL! All the gals I’ve RTF are retired – all within a year of working there. The latest being Amy from 1654A. She’s such a nice gal: hardworking, unassuming, soft-spoken, polite, sweet and skillful. And then there’s Dou Dou who left even before I had the chance to try her.

[teebs_darklord]

Originally Posted by fallen.angel

Haha, yes bro, you are very experienced, yes indeed I have told her off many times but in the end she still ended up coming back but that’s not what I want to do now – to lose my temper or composure (that’s losing control). I’m playing it real cool and nonchalant to test out the theories posted here.

Yes, pay per fuck or pay per month, like prepaid or post-paid phones, they are all monetary transactions, what’s the difference? Except to her, she takes it that I’m just taking care of her. To me, cut to the chase, no need to bullshit me. Yes, she can earn more from me sometimes some months, but not all the time. At least, I don’t pay extra, or have to ask for a sexxion.

Ha, talk about having a regular in GL! All the gals I’ve RTF are retired – all within a year of working there. The latest being Amy from 1654A. She’s such a nice gal: hardworking, unassuming, soft-spoken, polite, sweet and skillful. And then there’s Dou Dou who left even before I had the chance to try her.

Losing your temper at her is not losing control or losing your composure unless you were never in control of your emotions. If you are never in total control of your emotions, even if you act cool and composed, what's the point? Which theories are you trying to test out? To me, if you know where you stand in this relationship, there is absolutely no necessity to test any theory listed here...

Let me give you an example. If you lose your temper at your gal and tell her to fuck off and you fuck off first, do you still harbour the hope that she will come back to you later? If you have that attitude, then sorry, you are not in full control of your emotions.

You feel that by using the pay and fuck method, your gal feels that you are taking care of her???? The way I look at it, I believe she also views it as a monetary transaction.

The reason why she is asking you for a pay increment is because she knows that if she asks you long enough, most likely you will agree to it. WLs are not stupid. As long as they do not have any real feelings for you, they will always push the limits of your tolerance.

As for GL, I've not been there for many years already. When I was a regular, they weren't any PRC gals and the legal thai gals were $40...

[fallen.angel]

Originally Posted by teebs_darklord

Losing your temper at her is not losing control or losing your composure unless you were never in control of your emotions. If you are never in total control of your emotions, even if you act cool and composed, what's the point? Which theories are you trying to test out? To me, if you know where you stand in this relationship, there is absolutely no necessity to test any theory listed here...

Let me give you an example. If you lose your temper at your gal and tell her to fuck off and you fuck off first, do you still harbour the hope that she will come back to you later? If you have that attitude, then sorry, you are not in full control of your emotions.

You feel that by using the pay and fuck method, your gal feels that you are taking care of her???? The way I look at it, I believe she also views it as a monetary transaction.

The reason why she is asking you for a pay increment is because she knows that if she asks you long enough, most likely you will agree to it. WLs are not stupid. As long as they do not have any real feelings for you, they will always push the limits of your tolerance.

As for GL, I've not been there for many years already. When I was a regular, they weren't any PRC gals and the legal thai gals were $40...

Goosh, I didn't know my command of English is so poor.

OK, let me try harder.

Losing temper is losing composure. Losing temper is losing control of my emotions. That, of cos, is only my opinion/definition.

What's the point of acting cool? Well, to me, that's to show her who is in control of the whole situation/relationship. Didn't Bro WB once said (or posted here), that the one who shows the least concern controls the relationship? (Or something to that effect?) That, is the theory I'm testing. We didn't started off this way but along the way I made some mistakes, learnt a lot and then I also chanced upon this thread and learned and re-learned many theories so if there's room for change and improvement, I'm going to do it.

If you asked me if I will harbor the feeling of wanting her to come back. Sure. 100%. I don't need to lie to myself. But that doesn't mean she controls me, emotionally. Its only when I succumb to her request, then, yes, you can say she controls me. So no matter how badly I want it - it is only to my interest not to show it because these gals can sense it and capitalize on it! I'm sure you know what I mean.

Ask Bro WB, although I may not know him well, but I sense that even he sometimes will harbor feelings for a few SYTs who play hard to get but as long as he doesn't succumb and is held ransom by them, he is still in control - whether he gets what he wants in the end is not significant. Its only natural for us dirty old men to be horny and want to bonk and bonk, right? We rather move on than give in.

" You feel that by using the pay and fuck method, your gal feels that you are taking care of her???? The way I look at it, I believe she also views it as a monetary transaction."

Yes, every one (me, she) knows it’s a commercial/monetary transaction BUT I said that she would prefer to sugar-coat it by saying its for taking care of her. I just think its all bullshit. Anyways, please re-read my previous post.

[MoralEpitome]

Originally Posted by teebs_darklord

Bro, dun bullshit me about your retiring from KTVs lah...

Anyway, I have retired from GL $150 for many years already...

You may want to check this thread for recommendations:

http://sammy.services/showthread.php?t=112609

Nowadays just go for FLs...

Serious la...used to go 5 times a week...one only 2 times a week...and bonking less and less...I am like you...semi retired....haha...thanks for the thread...looks like only our BRO WB is really going strong!....hehehe

[teebs_darklord]

Originally Posted by fallen.angel

Goosh, I didn't know my command of English is so poor.

OK, let me try harder.

Losing temper is losing composure. Losing temper is losing control of my emotions. That, of cos, is only my opinion/definition.

What's the point of acting cool? Well, to me, that's to show her who is in control of the whole situation/relationship. Didn't Bro WB once said (or posted here), that the one who shows the least concern controls the relationship? (Or something to that effect?) That, is the theory I'm testing. We didn't started off this way but along the way I made some mistakes, learnt a lot and then I also chanced upon this thread and learned and re-learned many theories so if there's room for change and improvement, I'm going to do it.

If you asked me if I will harbor the feeling of wanting her to come back. Sure. 100%. I don't need to lie to myself. But that doesn't mean she controls me, emotionally. Its only when I succumb to her request, then, yes, you can say she controls me. So no matter how badly I want it - it is only to my interest not to show it because these gals can sense it and capitalize on it! I'm sure you know what I mean.

Ask Bro WB, although I may not know him well, but I sense that even he sometimes will harbor feelings for a few SYTs who play hard to get but as long as he doesn't succumb and is held ransom by them, he is still in control - whether he gets what he wants in the end is not significant. Its only natural for us dirty old men to be horny and want to bonk and bonk, right? We rather move on than give in.

" You feel that by using the pay and fuck method, your gal feels that you are taking care of her???? The way I look at it, I believe she also views it as a monetary transaction."

Yes, every one (me, she) knows it’s a commercial/monetary transaction BUT I said that she would prefer to sugar-coat it by saying its for taking care of her. I just think its all bullshit. Anyways, please re-read my previous post.

Ok, maybe let me rephrase what I said previously...

Losing temper is losing composure only if you have feelings for the gal. In other words, in a normal relationship when you lose your temper with your significant other, it is because you have feelings for her. In relationships like this, which I had previously, my feelings for my gals are always zilch although they have feelings for me. So whenever I lose my temper at my gal, it's a way to show her whose the boss. End of the day, since I have zero feelings for her, I don't give a damm whether she comes back to me or not. If she comes back, then she has to abide by the rules of the relationship that I set. Whatever happens, I don't lose.

If you succumb to the requests of your gal, even if it is only a few times, this shows up as your weakness which she will exploit to no end. Don't be surprised that even if you remain calm and composed, she is able to read you perfectly well. The fact that you tell her to fuck off and yet when she comes back, you accept her again with no conditions attached, shows to her that you were never serious about ending the relationship. Again this is a weakness that she will exploit.

You are correct to say that if a gal plays hard to get, we should just move on.

For Bro WB, his modus operandi is BY-ing the gal, meaning he makes an offer to the gal and if she accepts it, then the gal is his for that period. Of course, there will always be offers and counter offers and of course he may decide not to BY the gal even if she accepts his offer.

I could be wrong, but I believe what Bro WB meant when he said the one who shows the least concern controls the relationship means the one who has the least feelings in the relationship will be the one controlling it. Simply put, if you do not have feelings for the gal but the gal has feelings for you, then you will be in control of the relationship. It is a very simple concept but it is something that most people cannot or are unable to put into practice.

[teebs_darklord]

Originally Posted by MoralEpitome

Serious la...used to go 5 times a week...one only 2 times a week...and bonking less and less...I am like you...semi retired....haha...thanks for the thread...looks like only our BRO WB is really going strong!....hehehe

You are like me meh???

I already retired from KTVs/HFJs for many years already...you still going KTV/HFJ hor...

I already retired from GL and you are going to start going to GL...so how can you be retiring???

As for FLs, will probably be quitting soon also...