Cambodia Phnom Penh Nightlife Discussion

[xiaodikou]

Originally Posted by bolueeleh

more and more CP cheongsters changing playground, luckily not much ppl come to my playground yet

hahaha ya seems more ppl are going PP to cheong, hope they don't drive the price up and up like BKK. Bro where is ur playground, can i go...

[develish]

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[develish]

Originally Posted by nyrvana

By the way, I had a great time during out meet up in Singapore with bro Develish and bro Forseka. I want to thank bro Develish for the great meal and thank bro Forseka for the ride home! Appreciate it guys!

It was great meeting with you guys, if nothing else, but for food porn.

[alexfergus]

Originally Posted by xiaodikou

hahaha ya seems more ppl are going PP to cheong, hope they don't drive the price up and up like BKK. Bro where is ur playground, can i go...

hmmm.. cambodia looks interesting .

with yan da in china, junta power in bkk, maybe time to move base liao

[netkh]

FYI

http://www.cambodiadaily.com/news/fl...vidence-62456/

Flouting Orders, Police Use Condoms as Evidence
BY KHUON NARIM AND ALEX CONSIGLIO | JUNE 26, 2014

According to the government, condoms cannot be used in court as evidence of an illegal sexual transaction, as it may discourage their use and contribute to the spread of HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases.

But some among the country’s police force and prosecutors don’t seem to care.

Twice this week, the Phnom Penh Municipal Court has heard cases involving the procurement of prostitution in which used condoms have been presented as proof that sexual exchanges took place.

In court on Tuesday, the presiding judge and deputy prosecutor both noted the discovery of condoms in the case against massage parlor owner Try Tech.

“Police found the condoms and other things as evidence to charge you,” said Presiding Judge Chuon Sokreasei. Deputy prosecutor Chet Khemara added that condoms were found in each room within the “168” massage parlor.

On Wednesday, another massage parlor owner, Heng Sothea, was sentenced to two years in prison for procuring prostitution.

Presiding Judge Chea Sokheang, outlining the evidence in the case, said police found many condoms at Ms. Sothea’s “999” massage parlor in Phnom Penh, along with a notebook and two mobile phones.

Prime Minister Hun Sen issued the “100 Percent Condom Use Policy” in 1999—around the height of the HIV/AIDS epidemic in Cambodia—to fight against the deadly disease, partly by allowing brothels to stock condoms without fear of arrest or prosecution.

The initiative worked. Condom use rose—particularly among sex workers and their clients, the most at-risk population—and rates of HIV/AIDS steadily declined.

But since the government passed the 2008 Law on Suppression of Human Trafficking and Sexual Exploitation and police began shuttering brothels, the sex industry has migrated underground into ostensibly legitimate establishments such as massage parlors and karaoke venues.

And in an effort to prove that sex is on offer at these locales, police are once again turning to condoms as evidence.

“Condoms are evidence that they have had sex for money,” Lieutenant Colonel Keo Thea, the chief of the Phnom Penh anti-human trafficking police, said Wednesday.

Mr. Thea said condom use inside massage parlors and karaoke venues, where the sex industry often operates, is a double-edged sword.

“For example, people commonly use a knife for cutting vegetables, but when someone uses that knife to stab and kill somebody it becomes evidence of a crime,” he said. “Condoms protect from viruses. It is right. But they use the condom to have sex for money.”

The National Aids Authority noted the effectiveness of the condom-use policy in a 2010 report in which it urged the government to update the directive to adapt to a transformed sex industry.

“There is an urgent need to develop new approaches on the 100 percent [condom use policy],” the report says. “These approaches should expand the implementation of the policy to new environments where sex work is taking place…[and] ensure compliance among establishment owners and law enforcement officials.”

The report also notes that after the 2008 human trafficking law came into effect, the number of sex workers in brothels decreased from 6,000 in 2006 to 1,775 in 2009, while non-brothel based sex workers rose from 26,000 in 2007 to 32,418 in 2009.

Tim Vora, executive director of the HIV/AIDS Coordinating Committee, a network of international and local NGOs, said the Interior Ministry issued a directive in 2011 saying that condoms in entertainment establishments should only be used as evidence in cases of rape.

“We’ve been trying to educate police. Condoms are just one piece of evidence,” Mr. Vora said. “I think it has gotten better, but it’s still a problem. The police need to find other pieces of evidence.”

Interior Ministry spokesman Khieu Sopheak said he was “not clear” on the issue and declined to comment on why police are continuing to collect condoms as evidence.

Nou Sovann, the HIV program manager at Population Services Khmer, an NGO that advocates for HIV/AIDS prevention, said court cases like the ones this week strike fear into entertainment establishments and workers.

“Now they’re afraid to stock condoms or use them,” he said.

“Instead of using condoms as evidence, police should be encouraging their use.”

[nyrvana]

Originally Posted by netkh

FYI

http://www.cambodiadaily.com/news/fl...vidence-62456/

Flouting Orders, Police Use Condoms as Evidence
BY KHUON NARIM AND ALEX CONSIGLIO | JUNE 26, 2014

According to the government, condoms cannot be used in court as evidence of an illegal sexual transaction, as it may discourage their use and contribute to the spread of HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases.

But some among the country’s police force and prosecutors don’t seem to care.

“Instead of using condoms as evidence, police should be encouraging their use.”

Interesting article bro! Their police also funny, whole city full of KTV and entire stretch of bar street selling meat but only 2 cases so far....must thank the bar and KTV owners for paying their bribes on time hohoho

Well, night time should be safe, because their police force knock off at 5pm (no joke about this). And to all bros, RAW IS WAR!

[bolueeleh]

Originally Posted by nyrvana

Well, night time should be safe, because their police force knock off at 5pm (no joke about this)

haha i can atest to that, in SHV i spoke with the police chief, he said the police dept cannot afford to pay overtime thats why no police after dark, only in emergency then standby police in station will come out, and if you ask them to come after office hours hv to pay "admin" fees

[nyrvana]

Originally Posted by bolueeleh

haha i can atest to that, in SHV i spoke with the police chief, he said the police dept cannot afford to pay overtime thats why no police after dark, only in emergency then standby police in station will come out, and if you ask them to come after office hours hv to pay "admin" fees

hahaha at night better carry more money, anything happen just ask the tuktuk driver drive faster for more money!

Anyway, found this cute Khmer girl on Youtube, share share with all bros here!

[SEAJ]

Originally Posted by bolueeleh

haha i can atest to that, in SHV i spoke with the police chief, he said the police dept cannot afford to pay overtime thats why no police after dark, only in emergency then standby police in station will come out, and if you ask them to come after office hours hv to pay "admin" fees

This is HILARIOUS.... and a real eye-opener for me!

Just too used to living in regular societies that I wouldn't even have thought that things like this do still happen in lesser places.

Thanks
SEAJ

[forseka]

Originally Posted by develish

It was great meeting with you guys, if nothing else, but for food porn.

Thanks for the dinner bro ....next time on me and I hope to party with you again in future.

[cylwong]

I am currently in PP, can any bro tell me where is soul? near where? Thanks.

[nyrvana]

Originally Posted by cylwong

I am currently in PP, can any bro tell me where is soul? near where? Thanks.

Golden City Soul is along Samdach Sotheros Boulevard, road is near the Independence Monument and place is quite near to Sofitel.

The establishment is set in yellow paint, quite hard to miss because it looks like some huge mansion, entrance to it has a yellow overhead concrete signpost with it's name in English and Khmer.

Most places in Cambodia has a unit number but even the postman have problem identifying (I am exaggerating but you get the gist heh), so just travel down the road and look out for the overhead concrete signpost.

[naemlo]

Originally Posted by nyrvana

Golden City Soul is along Samdach Sotheros Boulevard, road is near the Independence Monument and place is quite near to Sofitel.

The establishment is set in yellow paint, quite hard to miss because it looks like some huge mansion, entrance to it has a yellow overhead concrete signpost with it's name in English and Khmer.

Soul City is near to the 4 tall buildings called Rose Condo, not near to Independence Monu. It is off the street of Sofitel and Aeon Mall.

Most tuk tuks know this place, Soul. It is 1 of the only few big establishments still standing there while others were forced to close down.

Difficult to find if by yourself, cause you will not able to see the main building as it is about 100m inside a small lane but you will able to see the sign board on the main street.

[nyrvana]

Originally Posted by naemlo

Soul City is near to the 4 tall buildings called Rose Condo, not near to Independence Monu. It is off the street of Sofitel and Aeon Mall.

Most tuk tuks know this place, Soul. It is 1 of the only few big establishments still standing there while others were forced to close down.

Difficult to find if by yourself, cause you will not able to see the main building as it is about 100m inside a small lane but you will able to see the sign board on the main street.

To bro Cylwong, yes just follow bro Naemlo's advice and ask a tuktuk, but keep in mind to tell them "Soul KTV/Massage" because sometimes if you just tell them "Soul" , they wont understand...

Anyway, had some free time, here is a map for you. If you are navigating yourself, Independence Monument should be a good landmark for you, just turn in at the end of the park. From your location you will definitely see Nagaworld in the distance.

Sothearos Blvd is just a small road, as you can see there is another road that breaks off on the right, do take note to just go straight once you turn in from Sihanouk Blvd.

Once near Soul from this South-wards direction, you will notice you will see a half-built Aeon construction site, keep going and you will see a rattan shop. At the rattan shop, you should be able to see Soul's yellow mansion structure.

For a better landmark to Soul, you will reach a round corner which the road will curve, and you will see a Japanese restaurant and a tailor, Soul's entrance road is just directly across. But mind you, the evening traffic is bad, you might have to play Froggers if you stop on the other side of the road hahaha

Dont take my map for 100% accuracy, just keep a look out for the landmarks I mentioned and you will be fine! Dont lose your way, good luck at Golden City Soul!

[develish]

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