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Wow guys, there are amazing tips for all going to Japan in this thread!
I myself am going to Japan in December alone and planning to stay in Shinjuku area and scout the area myself. Thanks to bro Sing169 for telling us a bad experience or what not to do at the expense of his friend.
I'm a malay, and with no skills in Japanese language, i'll be marked and targeted as a gaijin for sure. Any other advise for me personally though? Other than those mentioned or for Shinjuku area?
Will be heading down to Mt fuji and yet to decide on place to stay. Any recommendation as well? :]
P/S: trying to find the up/justice button for Sing169 & joey7! (:
Avoid Kabukicho at all cost, don't try, don't bother, even locals are frequently scammed there.
In general, from my conversation with the ladies, they tend not to accept guys that are not local/Chinese/Caucasian. So... bros of other ethnicity might have problem with soapland (do update us if soapland accept you though!).
Isn't Mount Fuji closed during Winter? In general, people tend to stay at Kawaguchiko or Fujigoko if they traveling to Mount Fuji. (I think Kawaguchiko is more common). Other than that Hakone is also an option if you only want to view Mount Fuji. Do remember all these places require at least 2 days to enjoy, especially Hakone.
Wow guys, there are amazing tips for all going to Japan in this thread!
I myself am going to Japan in December alone and planning to stay in Shinjuku area and scout the area myself. Thanks to bro Sing169 for telling us a bad experience or what not to do at the expense of his friend.
I'm a malay, and with no skills in Japanese language, i'll be marked and targeted as a gaijin for sure. Any other advise for me personally though? Other than those mentioned or for Shinjuku area?
Will be heading down to Mt fuji and yet to decide on place to stay. Any recommendation as well? :]
P/S: trying to find the up/justice button for Sing169 & joey7! (:
take a walk @ yoshiwara
and try to 'sell yourself'.
if those papa-san standing outside signal you to take a look inside, maybe you have chance.
Recently went to Osaka and decided to try other spots rather than the usual Tobita Shinchi and Club Amour. Went to this place in Nihonbashi called GoGo! DenTetsu.
I like their concept because they allow you to choose the girl after you see them in person. Basically you pay 4k yen to "ride" the train and on the train, there will be girls standing around. You sit in front of them and they will sit on your lap and chat with you. You can auto-roam them as you chat.
Once you sample all the girls, you exit the train and inform the staff who you want to service you(will be charged around 5k - 8k depending on the service duration). Then you will be lead to a cubicle and the girl you choose will come shortly. You can french her and auto roam. She will BBBJ you till you CIM.
Overall not a bad experience since you get to see, chat and feel the girls before you make your choice. Not sure if they accept anyone who doesn't speak Japanese though. I got by with my okayish Japanese.
Indeed, one should avoid Kabukicho unless he has more experience and know his way around there. They even have announcement there to inform foreigners not to deal with touts.
However, there are many other legit joints there and I still prefer to visit there as it is quite convenient. First timer should either go with a friend who knows how to get around there or have really good knowledge of the area before venturing in. I almost got scammed many years back when I was there the first time but I sense something wrong and excuse myself.
Indeed, one should avoid Kabukicho unless he has more experience and know his way around there. They even have announcement there to inform foreigners not to deal with touts.
However, there are many other legit joints there and I still prefer to visit there as it is quite convenient. First timer should either go with a friend who knows how to get around there or have really good knowledge of the area before venturing in. I almost got scammed many years back when I was there the first time but I sense something wrong and excuse myself.
Non first timer probably won't refer to forum for guide though, I still advise people who has no experience etc to avoid Kabukicho unless you have a reliable guide or enough experience dealing with that area. (I still frequent Kabukicho when I'm in Tokyo, but mainly to shop and dine)
Main reason I list Tobita is, they are very near one of biggest homeless area in Japan, in general, they don't cause issue but first timer should still be careful. But in a way, Tobita is safer compare to Kabukicho (I'm just biased against Osaka..hahaha... sorry)
Wow guys, there are amazing tips for all going to Japan in this thread!
I myself am going to Japan in December alone and planning to stay in Shinjuku area and scout the area myself. Thanks to bro Sing169 for telling us a bad experience or what not to do at the expense of his friend.
I'm a malay, and with no skills in Japanese language, i'll be marked and targeted as a gaijin for sure. Any other advise for me personally though? Other than those mentioned or for Shinjuku area?
Will be heading down to Mt fuji and yet to decide on place to stay. Any recommendation as well? :]
P/S: trying to find the up/justice button for Sing169 & joey7! (:
Very unlikely you can see Mt.Fuji unless they sky is clear and you're lucky. And yeah the climbing season is only in the summer.
Booked an Airbnb at a nice place near Ikebukuro. The place was brand new and had great facilities for the price and a quiet neighbourhood. Try to get a place along the Yamanote line which is a circle line that goes around central Tokyo. If you're going to/from Narita, get off Nippori which is the closest stop to the Yamanote line and gets you the fastest into the city.
this bro, seba, claims he has affair with a s-pass jap lady here. i found his article interesting, cuz the way he writes is so fake. lol.
Jap lady:T “It is ok, since I have no evidence against him and since he offered, I took the 3 months bonus, he also said he will not cancel my S pass, and will continue to pay my levy until I completed 2 years, but in order to do so, he still had to pay me, on paper, the same salary every month, so he told me to return him the salary but keep $500 for my expenses every month and I am free to do what I like, I don’t need to work in that company anymore, that's how I became a freelance Japanese teacher, as I am new to Singapore and it was difficult to get another job, anyway teaching had always been my passion, I can't teach in a language school as legally, I'm still an employee of my ex company”
i never know any jap employer/ company is foolish enough to do this to jeopardize his company, in singapore
Time to time I still get messages from people asking about tips etc on Japan about the scene and I often unwittingly reply, "oh they are all over in this thread". Then I realized, they are really scattered everywhere. So.... I'll compile what I feel is the right way to behave and how you play and etc here.
General Knowledge about prostitution in Japan:
Prostitution in term of carnal intercourse involving vaginal intercourse is illegal under Japanese legal system. However, establishment such as below, have ways to circumvent around it as technically it is not illegal *cough*:
1. Delivery health (where they strictly specify there is no vaginal intercourse is allowed)
2. Pink Salon (Blow job etc)
3. Soapland (what they technically selling is soap service, in the view or words of the establishment "if you and the woman have chemistry and fall in love, and make love, it is strictly issue between the man and the woman)
4. Other equally ambigous establisment, recently there was this establishment where you could look at woman in uniform (school girls fetish?) behind a magic mirror, and you could request certain woman to do stuff if you pay (I am not too sure what they are, probably just softcore stuff etc)
In short, if you want a guaranteed spoken or written promise of vaginal intercourse service, you will unlikely get that respond in Japan. The point is , be ambiguous. Most of my experience is on Soapland, and so everything will mostly be directly addressing soapland stuff, though some of the guides can be used for other establishment.
Payment in Soapland: All payment has to be made upfront upon choosing the lady. No negotiation (please please don't bargain in Japan ever, it is not part of their culture).
When you check different establishment on the net, you will come across different payment system, as follow:
入浴料 : This is just the soap/bathing service, and most commonly found in a little mid-up to upper class soapland, there will normally be an equivalent or a lot more fee on top of this. Eg. 入浴料 of 20K yen may have another 20-40k+++Yen on top of it, amounting to a total of 40-60k+++ Yen.
総額 : This is the amount payable, more commonly found in mid to lower range establisment.
Gaijin Fee : In some or maybe most of establishments (I am not that rich to try all of them to confirm this, but so far all the shops I have been to has it), there will be another 10K gaijin fee, I am assuming this is for the ladies, since what ladies you can choose mostly dependent on which ladies willing to take foreigners.
For establishment that use 入浴料, there's another slight complication due to differences in establishment.
1)There are establishment that will give you the amount payable when you are there. You just pay them as stated.
2) There are establishment that will explain to you that there will be tax on top of the amount payable.
Note: Normally the price has no differences, in scenario 1) the tax has been added to avoid confusion for customers probably.. OR they just not paying tax entirely.
Photoshops, fake photos, fake ladies? Need to know Japanese?: Q1) Is there any photoshops?
A1) Of course there are, but the severity also dependent on how much you are paying for. Most of my recent establishment, the ladies are better than the picture by a lot, but I am also paying the mid-up range. Q2) Could some of the ladies be not Japanese?
A2) I am pretty sure there would be some mix-Japanese or local born Chinese/Korean/etc among them, in mid-up range a totally fake Japanese girls are less likely. Q3) Do I need to know Japanese to go to soapland?
A3) Yes and No. Yes, it will benefit you if you can speak Japanese, mostly when you meet the ladies so you can have conversation and stuff. No, a lot of establishment now catering to foreigners (not all though), some shops even have Mandarin speakers. Q4) Why it seems you are not too concerned about fake ladies and photos?
A4) Because, there are many local blogs dedicated to reviewing the ladies. If you use fake ladies and the local found out, well.... prepare for Japanese anonymous keyboard warriors. And yes, Japanese have Soapland review blog.
Moral of the story: Especially in Japan, you get what you pay for.
Rule of play for soapland (in my view):
1. Dress smart or dress well. Don't dress like hobo. It helps when you present yourself to the bouncer/doorman. They will normally decide if they want to allow you into the establishment or not.
2. Be courteous and respectful, unless you want establishments to ban certain country people from entering. (China was briefly banned for a while few years back due to their disruptive behaviour, do be considerate to other bros when you are in the scene.)
2.1. Be on time if you manage to make a booking with them.
3. Do research ahead of time and choose a couple establishments that you are interested with, in case that the ladies you want is not available or they do not allow you to enter.
4. Do bring cash, while most shops probably accept Credit card, Japan is still predominantly cash society. To avoid whatever possibility of your credit card not working, do bring enough cash.
5. Do tell them that you are not Japanese at start if you are like me that blend in well with the Japanese. Most do not realize I am not Japanese but eventually people will know, so, do yourself a favour and tell them early on.
6. Try not go with groups of people, 1-2 is fine, more... I am not sure. Establishments are usually more wary of groups of people as in case of disruptive cases, groups of people tend to be more troublesome for them.
7. Do NOT, I repeat, do NOT, cause trouble in these areas. Nothing good will come out of it. If there are miscommunication and stuff, do be a bit more patient (Some establishments are less friendly than others, I had brought friends to some which are rather unfriendly, though most the one I brought people to, are pretty friendly and patient. Most of miscommunication will probably on choosing the ladies and the payment probably.)
8. If you plan to book through phone, do get a local to help you. However, it is just easier if you just pay a visit to the area and hop around establishments that you are interested with. Do not feel disappointed if you get rejected, there are probably 100-200 shops in Yoshiwara alone, not including Uguisudani. I advise going before night time, it is easier to see and there is probably higher chances.
9. After you selected your lady and made your payment, they will ask you what drink you want and will ask you to wait for the lady to prepare herself. Once she is ready, the staff will lead you to her (most probably elevator), do make sure if you want to go to the toilet before being lead to her bathing room.
10. Depending on how girls play and your chemistry, content and service of the ladies will be varied. Tho general rule is they will help you to remove your outfit and give you the bathing service.
11. Once you reached your time, the lady will send you to the elevator and the staff will most probably lead you to the waiting room again. In general, they will probably ask 1. Are you satisfied? 2. Do you need them to drive you to nearby station (this dependent on various establishments, probably whether they have drivers or cars available. If they do provide it and you opt for it, do be patient and wait for it, as the cars maybe be somewhere with other customers. Or you could always ask them to help you call a taxi. Or you could just say it is ok if you prefer to go around Yoshiwara. In general, taxi is very easy to find here.)
Note：
1. Some ladies provide raw service and some will allow you to shoot inside them too. There are ways to know from the website, though most the time after you had visited their establishment, they will give you a member card to access more information on their website. (Do protect yourself and play safe...)
2. In general, for mid-up (not sure about mid-lower), there is no limit of how many shot allowed, you are allowed as many during the time period you pay for.
3. A lot establishments have AV stars in them, some more than others, in general, AV stars not that rare in Japan. Though, the famous current and working AV stars will rarely be in soapland. Those ladies will be in Cabaret or another famous delivery service.
4. Mid-up range price is about 50K ish to 70K ish (up to 100k ish) this before the Gaijin fee, for period of 2hours.
5. There are shops that have 3P service, 2 ladies + gent.
6. Try avoid using the term "JAP" entirely if possible when in Japan, it does have the connotation of the N words for certain group of people. While some local Japanese probably not aware or don't care entirely, just avoid using it will be safest bet.
7. On choosing available ladies, due to non appointment and depending on which ladies available to accept foreign customers, one tip to do it is... ask the staff, if you prefer service, ask them which one have better service. Or if you like big boobs, etc. Though, whether their recommendation is accurate or not is.... Most the time, I prefer service, and most the time they do deliver.
8. (Forgot to mention). Do get local mobile phone/number, and data plan.
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