Incest Father and Daughter Have Their Child Now, Hypocrites or Acceptable?

Keong19 · #1 07-04-2008, 10:20 PM

The photo shows a happy family, the couple are John and Jenny Deaves. Their relationship is not only husband and wife but father and daughter as well. Celeste born after years of an incest relationship. Majority think he's hypocrites while others insist it is acceptable.

The Daily Telegraph reports below:

A SOUTH Australian father and daughter have revealed they are a couple, and have had a child together. John and Jenny Deaves reunited 30 years after Mr Deaves separated from Jenny’s mother. Jenny was 31 and just two weeks after meeting, father and daughter had sex. "John and I are in this relationship as consenting adults," Mrs Deaves told the Nine Network’s 60 Minutes tonight. "We are just asking for a little bit of respect and understanding." Their nine-month-old daughter Celeste, shown on TV, appears fit and healthy. Mrs Deaves said soon after reuniting with her father she began to see him as a man first and her father second. "I was looking at him, sort of going, oh, he’s not too bad," she said. "Like you might look at a man across the bar at a nightclub." Mrs Deaves brought two children, Samantha and Alex, into the relationship after splitting from her former partner. Mr Deaves admitted that he "initially" thought having sex with his daughter was wrong. "Emotions take over, as people no doubt realize, there are times during your life where emotions do rule the heart, it rules the head," he said. "I knew it was illegal, of course I knew it was illegal but you know, so what." Mrs Deaves said the physical relationship with her father was like "a sexual relationship with any other man". For Mr Deaves the sexual relationship was "absolutely fantastic". A South Australian police media spokesman said "the couple is being monitored".

Boliaoz · #2 07-04-2008, 10:43 PM

Should the nine-month-old daughter Celeste address John, as daddy or granddaddy?

scout1916 · #3 07-04-2008, 11:20 PM

Dun think we asians here can accept this kind of relationship. How would their relatives feel? Seem like the world is going upside down.

Seether · #4 08-04-2008, 07:28 AM

I saw this on 60 minutes when they aired it on Aussie TV on Sunday and I got to say.... a lot of people are gobsmacked and very against the whole idea of them coming out of the closet, not because of any ethical issues but because of potential whiplash effects against the kid in question.

which is true. it can be argued that while they were two consenting adults who mutually agreed to enter an incestuous relationship, it's the kid that is being short changed as a result.

I spoke to a media friend in South Australia and she says that it's causing a frenzy over there.

and I thought cousin-shagging/relationships of an incestuous nature was a practice restricted to Tasmania and/or New Zealand.

S T A R · #5 08-04-2008, 08:12 AM

I dont think anybody would except this kind of arrangement .... can you imagine their kids would have all kind of ........

old_yet_horny · #6 08-04-2008, 10:49 AM

This is totally insane and immoral...

Only sickos and perverts do that to their off springs..

Incest may only happen in animals/ beast but we as humans are civilised and eduacated. How can we allow ourselves to agree on such barbaric act?

machoman · #7 08-04-2008, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by old_yet_horny

This is totally insane and immoral...

Only sickos and perverts do that to their off springs..

Incest may only happen in animals/ beast but we as humans are civilised and eduacated. How can we allow ourselves to agree on such barbaric act?

Absolutely agree with you, bro old_yet_horny.

There are so many other sex partners in the world besides your own daughter. Why commit incest?

colins · #8 08-04-2008, 11:39 AM

I think the issue is stark naked as 'will a relationship which is incestous in nature stop a couple from falling in love'. It din stop them apparently.

Both of them never had a father-daughter relationship, the daughter stayed with the mum for 30 years and she met the father when she was 31. So its natural that they dun feel 'incestous' but they managed to take a step further to make it a love relationship. I think that's where the whole issue lies in, can love transient something so socially unacceptable as incest.

We often refer 'incest' most times to family violence, rapes from drunken parents, dark secrets running in the family...until it's been cast in our minds and the society that incest is evil committed, with all the meanings that ties along with 'evil' like immoral (which is a social reference), uncivilised (again social reference) and twisted (yes you guessed it).

Incest is nothing more forbidden than a prevention against bad DNA if there are offsprings. The rest of it being so 'wrong' are all in our mindset. Sorry to say this but in the centre of christianity, we do have our own reasons to believe and accept what happened to Adam's and Noah's family. Of course, those are merely myths (if you are a non-believer) or an unquestionable truth (if you believe in it). Point is, ask any christians and they will give you varying answers on how they accept the bible reference on both families.

But now we see it real, in picture and them living in some neighbourhood being someone's neighbour. The reality made a lot of people flipped.

Have you seen japanese porn with themes on incest? It made an industry by itself among themes like 'seductive teachers' and 'lurid sisters' and what not. In fact, such themes are in the mainstream! That means among us, there are people who like such ideas or else there will be nothing to feed that theme.

So instead of asking if the father is a hypocrite, should those among us who secretly love to watch porns on incestous theme ask ourselves first if we are the one who are hypocritical? (I'm not going to make any reference back on Adam lest it offends everybody) Incest is all in our mind, and yet the society is using it to both type-cast evil and arouse sexual desire, isn't that funny?

To me, I feel pity for that child. I do not know if incest is acceptable or not but of course I hope it remains either a porn theme or a myth. After all, I also think its no acceptable. Just thought that it is quite interesting to challenge the social norms and seeing that whenever we judge others, we inevitably judge ourselves as the society is but one big damn circle.

Cocky · #9 08-04-2008, 09:09 PM

To me.... only animals do that.

Big Semens · #10 08-04-2008, 09:19 PM

Very immoral

featherbird · #11 08-04-2008, 11:46 PM

ang mohs really do all the unbelievable stuff to get in the news!!!

i will not be surprised if their daughter grows up and have incest with this father again!!!

QQgame · #12 09-04-2008, 12:04 AM

its not the right thing to do

justwanadoit · #13 09-04-2008, 03:51 AM

they were separated for 30 yrs after their father and mother separated.

The father say initially he think it is wrong to have sex with daughter but later he say emotion take over. probably more wrong if daughter young but daughter also so old liao ...think reall Walan eh!

pussyman72 · #14 09-04-2008, 04:33 AM

just one word dick head rules over his big head. he said he use his real head pui.

The father say initially he think it is wrong to have sex with daughter but later he say emotion take over.

means he wants to have sex with his daughter liao so buay tahan liao so on her kns. buay gan.. cant understand how he can manage to bring his dick up when trying to have sex with his "Daughter" his head onl pussy pussy pussy i need it. just do it n then think later.............

Seether · #15 09-04-2008, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Cocky

To me.... only animals do that.

sorry to burst your bubble, but royal families in many MANY years gone by do inbreeding as well. their reasoning was to maintain the royal bloodline and not let it be diluted with commoner's blood.

so incest isn't that new a thing. just that it's a taboo, like what Freud says.