Stephen Leather's Private Dancer

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by thaiboy

yeah " zao chai mao".....most WL are "zao chai mao" , zao chai to their pocket

Eh, talk about the "baby" leh. You were talking about it the other time, so give you chance to express everything better.

SC

[collin_23]

Saw the jap creator on tv, he got a cat just like the thingy...anyway he making big bucks. Maybe it is time for sg people to think of a new icon to sell other than our merlion...keke...

Cheers

Originally Posted by GiddlyGook

Its proper name is Maneki neko. Origin: Japan.

[siamcutey]

The Fillial Daughter is NEXT.

hahaha
SC

[collin_23]

woo...seen page 1, can't wait.....sg guys pls know the difference between the culture of thai and sg. What is accepted there may not be accepted here. Read more learn more see more and u will know them more.

Originally Posted by siamcutey

The Fillial Daughter is NEXT.

hahaha
SC

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by collin_23

woo...seen page 1, can't wait.....sg guys pls know the difference between the culture of thai and sg. What is accepted there may not be accepted here. Read more learn more see more and u will know them more.

What is accepted in thailand cannot be accepted in singapore. Same like what we can accept in singapore, they can't accept in thailand.

The cultural upbringing and differences is going to tear many people apart

hahaha
SC

[toothbrush]

Originally Posted by collin_23

woo...seen page 1, can't wait.....sg guys pls know the difference between the culture of thai and sg. What is accepted there may not be accepted here. Read more learn more see more and u will know them more.

i had read the book long time ago.... recently went to the stephenleather website. I was quite curious of how did the author manage to describe the WLs scene so well ( he denied he is Pete ) happen to click on the userful link on his webpage and found that the there is actually a Pete in freelancebar in one of the freelancebar in pattaya.. haha maybe it is just coincidence.

anyway must really give the author the credit for writting such a great book and disribute it for free

[delifrance]

Stephen Leather's Private Dancer is a work that is very useful when it is being read again and again for reference work with regards to what's really happening in the WL world. Many lessons repeat themselves. The basics are all in there, many times we dont recognize the mutations of the original basic themes.

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by toothbrush

i had read the book long time ago.... recently went to the stephenleather website. I was quite curious of how did the author manage to describe the WLs scene so well ( he denied he is Pete ) happen to click on the userful link on his webpage and found that the there is actually a Pete in freelancebar in one of the freelancebar in pattaya.. haha maybe it is just coincidence.

anyway must really give the author the credit for writting such a great book and disribute it for free

No one will be able to describe it so well if he has never been in 1 such relationship before. Even as a bystander, you can't see the whole picture clearly.

I believe the author has paid many many school fees.

SC

[mi.chi.eru]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

No one will be able to describe it so well if he has never been in 1 such relationship before. Even as a bystander, you can't see the whole picture clearly.

I believe the author has paid many many school fees.

SC

Not enough that he needs to sell the book. It's still free....

[toothbrush]

Originally Posted by mi.chi.eru

Not enough that he needs to sell the book. It's still free....

I have email him before, he want to publish the book and need help from reader to persuade the publisher to publish his book
he hope we can send post card to his publisher to support Stephen Leather to help him get his book publish
We can send to the following address
Jamie Hodder Williams and the address is c/o
Hodder and Stoughton, 338 Euston Road, London NW1 3BH,
United Kingdom.

[collin_23]

Today's date is 16/11/2004. 6 more days will be the 1 yr anniversary of this thread started by SC last yr 22/11/2003.

Personally I am very grateful to be able to assess this great story. If only this story was introduced to me when I 1st started cheonging but nevertheless it helps to soothe some of the pain...

A must read for newbies into the commercial sex scene, esp those who cheong the cat40 thai WLs.

Regarding the problem of going unprotected sex, I just once again want to point out that it is quite common practice in commercial sex as a long term approache and by the girls' assesment of u, whether health wise, looks etc. U r definitely not the only one and most of them at 20+ have boyfriends, husbands and kids back home already. Don't be self-delusion and take it that it is 'Love at 1st sight' .This is very common esp in thai when guys fall for the 1st girl who treat them very well.

I personally 'experimented' at the most crazy point in my time when my 1st girl left me. Of the cat40 girls I tried, majority allow raw. I did around 5 before I stopped. I finally knew that I am not special and it always take place less than 3 visits. Was lucky not to kena HIV that time but not advisable or recommended to follow my bad example. If u want to know whether going raw means she likes u than u r wrong. It is only a start though she may really like u, that is may only.

In an occupation as a WL, there can be no feelings involved with customers. This is because if every customer she love than she cannot work in this line already. Many has seen alot back home as majority has worked in entertainment outlets prior to coming here. If no work before come here, how they know the 'kang tao' to come sg?

Questions to ask yourself:

a) Why do u go to her in the 1st place? Was it sex or love? Y u choose her? Was it cause u see her pretty, good figure or love? Or was it service as on the internet?

b) Did u pay for her service? Y do u have to pay for her service since u say it was love? She say no need pay visit her but did u not spend on her during the outings? If really no than r u still a regular customer than?

c) Y so many guys she love u? R u a yan dao, speak thai, got money and car, good in bed? U know yourself. If u really so good than u no need to find gf in geylang as girls will be flocking to u.

d) What she used to work back home as in reason she came here. Is she honest with u? R u honest with her? R u honest to your friends and family and why? R u more happy before knowing her or after?

e) Is this really what u want? If yes than u must work hard to earn lots of money and be prepared to stay thailand if necessary. U will have to learn to read and write thai. In worst cases your family will forsake u cause they cannot accept a WL as a daughter-in-law. Will u be happy in thai or here?

f) If she has a child but not married, r u ready to become step father?

g) R u not at all worried about stds and Hiv when u make love raw with her? The moment of lust is equivalent to making love with all the other people she had in the past not counting her ex-partners's other partners. The list can simply go on. What if u catch some diseases and pass on to your family members as in skin contact enough or some diseases cause infertility for u?

These r just some of the questions I thought of from my personal experience for a newbie maybe. Hope that offers some insight for bros here. Not a lao jiao cheongster cause only started last yr. If given another chance I will wish I did not start at all. I rather pass this chance to another person.

This is commercial sex.

Everyday a new lady comes to geylang...
Everyday a lady who finished her service left sg...
Everyday a new samster had his 1st time in geylang...
Everyday a samster got heartbroken...

I won't forget the way u're kissing...the feelings so strong were asking for so long...but I'm not the man your heart is keen to stay...that's y u go away I know...yes I know...

[delifrance]

True pointers.

[magicafe]

well written bro collin. correct me if it sounds rude " We are ATM machine and they 're sex machine". i suppose their heart are hard as steel. it is difficult to brainwashed them so to speak. Only with tons of $$$ can keep them away from the old profession.
let me share my experince with a MP gal from UTOPIA. coming this december will be 2 years of our relationship. i have been sponsoring her at an average of 60000 baht per month to keep her away from profession.out of this amount, some goes to pay her car loan and hokkien called " HUAY" money. all this debts been repaid in the middle of last year. and in the begining of this year cut down the allowance to 40000 baht per month. last month, she hinted that she like to work as a mamasan at cocktail lounge with the excuse that she boring doing nothing and need extra $$$ bcos mum is sick also help me to ease responsibility.
she assures me that always "kit thung khun and mai thong huang". last week i brought a ?. how much can u make as a mamasan per month? She replied 30000+++. I told that i will be in BKK on December and she told she will temporarily ask vacation and back to work after i left.
to show my affection and care, i suggest that she better learn some skill s like hairdressing or look for shop to venture into small business which i pay for her. "NO" is the reply. (NU mai mee kwan lu. tam mai pen .kua cut thun. ) so my last bombshell to her - either u quit your work or i quit u. UP2U is her answer. It is almost 6 days since we last communicate. CONCLUSION is no money no honey. welcome comments from all cheongsters.

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by collin_23

If given another chance I will wish I did not start at all. I rather pass this chance to another person.

This is commercial sex.

Everyday a new lady comes to geylang...
Everyday a lady who finished her service left sg...
Everyday a new samster had his 1st time in geylang...
Everyday a samster got heartbroken...

I won't forget the way u're kissing...the feelings so strong were asking for so long...but I'm not the man your heart is keen to stay...that's y u go away I know...yes I know...

Ok, 1 year later, you write another lengthy message again to re-assess this thread as you age another year.

In the many many cheonging sessions, inevitably, one will be offered RAW. The big head has never been in a situation when it comes to cheonging and when RAW comes, this is when the big head needs to think. But very often, no one bothers.

If want to do RAW, unless you love the person. Unless you are willing to die together with her if she has AIDs, if not never never try RAW.
Many regret after the small head ejaculates. Regret why they went for RAW.

Thai Ladies are a very special kind of breed. A kind of breed where one will find difficulty in trying to understand them. The Private Dancer only offers a story of Joy. However in many real life cases, there are worst off cases where the female lead is even worst than Joy. On the other hand, not all are bad. There are always good ones around, though not many.

Cheongsters improve with their knowledge of Thai Girls through forums and stories and are more wary of the girls. The girls are not stupid either and they have improved their "skills" too with skills imparted from the predecessors on how to deal with men.

One must always cheong with a clear head and a clear heart in order not to stumble badly in this path. No point to stop one from walking this path, because only by walking this path, they will understand the reason why Stephen Leather wrote the Private Dancer.

SC

[MrDevil]

Originally Posted by collin_23

This is commercial sex.

As everyone rightly know, Geylang is meant for commercial sex but perhaps some Angels may hope to find love. It's meant as the releasing ground to fullfil men's need and the ground for the WL to earn with their body. It is as simple as to pay $40 for a 25 mins of pleasure, that's pretty worthy considering today's living standard. Of all places, I wonder why one need to confine himself within the few streets, there are plenty of flowers in the jungle.