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Old 23-06-2007, 05:02 PM
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Re: Two YOUNG girls GANG-RAPED in JOHOR ( Again? )

This I found about the matter of rape and islamic punishment which is pretty much says it all (those in blue are my comments):

The Arabic word ightisab (rape) refers to taking something wrongfully by force.

This is an abhorrent crime that is forbidden in all religions and in the minds of all wise people and those who possess sound human nature. All earthly systems and laws regard this action as abhorrent and impose the strictest penalties on it.

Islam has a clear stance which states that this repugnant action is haram (forbidden) and imposes a deterrent punishment on the one who commits it. Islam closes the door to the criminal who wants to commit this crime. In other words God punishes

The laws of Islam came to protect women’s honor and modesty. Islam forbids women to wear clothes that are not modest. In addition, Islam encourages young men and women to marry early, and many other rulings that close the door before rape and other crimes. Hence it comes as no surprise when we hear or read that most of these crimes occur in permissive societies, which are looked up to by some Muslims as examples of civilization and refinement! In otherwords those people got raped because they were asking for I! If everyone were covered up there would be no rapes!

The punishment for rape in Islam is the same as the punishment for zina (adultery or fornication), which is stoning if the perpetrator is married, and one hundred lashes and banishment for one year if he is not married.

The scholars are unanimously agreed that the rapist is to be subjected to the hadd punishment if there is clear evidence against him that he deserves the hadd punishment, or if he admits to that. Otherwise, he is to be punished (that is, if there is no proof that the hadd punishment for zina may be carried out against him because he does not confess and there are not four witnesses, then the judge may punish him and stipulate a punishment that will deter him and others like him). There is no punishment for the woman if it is true that he forced her and overpowered her. (Al-Istidhkaar, 7/146). They seemed to have always forgotten this part and always blame the women!

In addition, the rapist is subject to the hadd punishment for zina, even if the rape was not carried out at knifepoint or gunpoint. If the use of a weapon was threatened, then he is a muharib, and is to be subjected to the hadd punishment described in the verse in which Allah says (The recompense of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and do mischief in the land is only that they shall be killed or crucified or their hands and their feet be cut off from opposite sides, or be exiled from the land. That is their disgrace in this world, and a great torment is theirs in the Hereafter) (Al-Ma’idah 5:33). Almost fell of my chair laughing when I finished

So the judge has the choice of the four punishments mentioned in this verse and may choose whichever he thinks is most suitable to attain the objective, which is to spread peace and security in society, and ward off evildoers and aggressors.
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Re: Two YOUNG girls GANG-RAPED in JOHOR ( Again? )

Man pretends to be cop, molests girl
June 22, 2007




THE schoolgirl and her brother had been waiting for their schoolbus, as they did every morning.


The technology park where the schoolgirl was allegedly molested.
And the bus stop was just five minutes from their Kulai, Johor home.

But on Wednesday morning, the usual routine ended with the girl being taken away and molested - by a man who claimed to be a policeman, reported Guang Ming Daily.

The attack has reportedly left the girl so traumatised, she has not been able to talk about it properly.

On Wednesday morning, while the two siblings were at the bus stop, a man in a silver-coloured car stopped in front of them.

He asked them the way to Johor Jaya, then he asked about another residential area.

He then claimed to be a policeman and asked to check the siblings' identity cards.

When the girl and her brother replied that they didn't have their identity cards on them, the man reportedly turned aggressive and threatened to take them to the police station.

Frightened, the boy agreed to run home to get the cards, while his sister got into the car with the man.

GIRL TAKEN

When the boy went back to the bus stop with his mother, the man and his sister were nowhere in sight.

The man allegedly drove the schoolgirl to Senai Technology Park, about 5km away, where he is believed to have molested her.

She was later found by two girls, who took her to the police station.

According to the girl's school principal, the girl is so traumatised by the attack she could not speak for some time and was not able to fully describe the incident.

The technology park is the same secluded area where an 8-year-old girl's body was found last year, reported China Press.

The skeletal remains of Lo Ching Poon were found in a monsoon drain about twoweeks after she disappeared from her JB home.

PREVIOUS CASES

There has been a spate of violent crimes reported in Johor in the past few months.

In separate cases this month, twowomen were allegedly taken away and gang-raped by groups of men in the Pasir Gudang area.

In both cases, the men were reportedly armed and had slashed the women's boyfriends.

In late April, a 28-year-old pregnant woman was allegedly raped by two men who abducted her and her 3-year-old son at a deserted petrol station in Tampoi near Johor Baru.

These recent cases have led members of the public to start a petition calling for better security.

It has also prompted a response from the Malaysian government.
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According to Islâm, a woman has to be respected and protected under all circumstances, whether she belongs to your own nation or to the nation of an enemy, whether she follows your religion or belongs to some other religion or has no religion at all. A Muslim cannot outrage her under any circumstances. All promiscuous relationships have been forbidden to him, irrespective of the status or position of the woman, whether the woman is a willing or an unwilling partner to the act. The words of the Holy Qur’ân in this respect are: "Do not approach (the bounds of) adultery" (17:32). Heavy punishment has been prescribed for this crime, and the order has not been qualified by any conditions. Since the violation of chastity of a woman is forbidden in Islam, a Muslim who perpetrates this crime cannot escape punishment. (Maudoodi)
Shocking is it not? Maybe it is time somebody told them about it!
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90%-100% of the recent RAPE cases in Malaysia are DONE and committed by malays. why?

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This I found about the matter of rape and islamic punishment which is pretty much says it all (those in blue are my comments):

The Arabic word ightisab (rape) refers to taking something wrongfully by force.

This is an abhorrent crime that is forbidden in all religions and in the minds of all wise people and those who possess sound human nature. All earthly systems and laws regard this action as abhorrent and impose the strictest penalties on it.

Islam has a clear stance which states that this repugnant action is haram (forbidden) and imposes a deterrent punishment on the one who commits it. Islam closes the door to the criminal who wants to commit this crime. In other words God punishes

The laws of Islam came to protect women’s honor and modesty. Islam forbids women to wear clothes that are not modest. In addition, Islam encourages young men and women to marry early, and many other rulings that close the door before rape and other crimes. Hence it comes as no surprise when we hear or read that most of these crimes occur in permissive societies, which are looked up to by some Muslims as examples of civilization and refinement! In otherwords those people got raped because they were asking for I! If everyone were covered up there would be no rapes!

The punishment for rape in Islam is the same as the punishment for zina (adultery or fornication), which is stoning if the perpetrator is married, and one hundred lashes and banishment for one year if he is not married.

The scholars are unanimously agreed that the rapist is to be subjected to the hadd punishment if there is clear evidence against him that he deserves the hadd punishment, or if he admits to that. Otherwise, he is to be punished (that is, if there is no proof that the hadd punishment for zina may be carried out against him because he does not confess and there are not four witnesses, then the judge may punish him and stipulate a punishment that will deter him and others like him). There is no punishment for the woman if it is true that he forced her and overpowered her. (Al-Istidhkaar, 7/146). They seemed to have always forgotten this part and always blame the women!

In addition, the rapist is subject to the hadd punishment for zina, even if the rape was not carried out at knifepoint or gunpoint. If the use of a weapon was threatened, then he is a muharib, and is to be subjected to the hadd punishment described in the verse in which Allah says (The recompense of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and do mischief in the land is only that they shall be killed or crucified or their hands and their feet be cut off from opposite sides, or be exiled from the land. That is their disgrace in this world, and a great torment is theirs in the Hereafter) (Al-Ma’idah 5:33). Almost fell of my chair laughing when I finished

So the judge has the choice of the four punishments mentioned in this verse and may choose whichever he thinks is most suitable to attain the objective, which is to spread peace and security in society, and ward off evildoers and aggressors.
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Ok..anytime now..watch for it.

Some malaysia minister is going to come out and say the crime problem in JB is due to Singapore reclaiming land and then..the whole issue will be about singapore.
its all crap....of the malaysian...govt....its just that they are .not capable and competent in polictical policies.We are their customers ..we buy water resource from them....what have they got to say...if not for spore....dunno how many dig mud there will join the beggars sect in JB...IM SURE BROS WHO WENT JB CAN SEE dig muds roaming around on the road in front of vehicles begging for money..!
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90%-100% of the recent RAPE cases in Malaysia are DONE and committed by malays. why?
Because they know they can get away with it lor! They don't believe in retribution like us.
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Because they know they can get away with it lor! They don't believe in retribution like us.
For my explanation is

Chinese like gamble
Indian like " Samsu " ( alcohol )
Malay like " Sio Kan ( fuck )

They even can bonk their own daughter , so what they not dare to do
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I feel that there is not point talking sense to the kind of people who don't have a sense of shame.

Just be careful when we r there or don't even go there. But i have to go to malaysia frequently as half of my family tree is over there. Have to visit them sometimes.

Bless me.

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These recent cases have led members of the public to start a petition calling for better security.

It has also prompted a response from the Malaysian government.
Oddly enough certain members of the public and religious groups were not very open in condemning it.

Only response were "Let's not blow this out of proportion and point the finger at any race."

Which reminds me, were they as vocal when the US Trooper was accused of raping an Iaqi woman? I think they were real vocal about it. Suddenly now not a sound.

Well as one bro to another I wish your other half of the family tree well and safe from harm.
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This I found about the matter of rape and islamic punishment which is pretty much says it all (those in blue are my comments):
There are things that Islam says,
Then there are things that Muslims do
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There are things that Islam says,
Then there are things that Muslims do
Haiz agree. Isalm says don't do alot of things and yet still got self proclaimed holy man that says it a must for daughter to be screwed by him. You guys know the famous case involved many wives.
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cut away their dick let them nv have a chance to fuck again bastard
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Another rape case reported in today's New Paper. This time the incident happen in Penang.

An 18 yr old girl was detained by a group of men claiming to be policemen and taken to a deserted hut. She was then gang raped and forced to entertain more than 10 men over 3 days

If the police do not start breaking these cases and arresting those rapists, chances will be that the general public will start to pile on more pressure and some department heads will start to roll. Tourism confirm sure to be affected.
dude....get ur arse bk to sg .....hehehehehe...jus joking
frankly .....its a loss battle as looooonnnng as these embicile is in garmen lah ........
i realllly dun understand their mentality......try to figure tis out ...the mongolian model's murder trial , on today 's new paper ;
1) Mrs Razak Baginda alleged to have kicked and punched the father of the dead Mongolian model .......
2) She and a group of supporters wear a t shirt tat said "i am blaa blaa blaa, and I am proud of it ........
Man , a life is LOSS , and tis mother FXXkers r making a mockery of t judicial system n PROUD of it ....can u dig tat ......i bloooody CUNT ....its just simply SHAMELESS...
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yup! i've read the "lianhewanbao" abt this case and oso believe its done by
the same rapist gang...! They are real bastards...hope our govt won;t built mrt from their bastardland to spore...!
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Because they know they can get away with it lor! They don't believe in retribution like us.
juz my 2 cents worth ....if malaysia dun gain support from neighbouring countries ..wonder how....if a war is declared with support from other nations against malaysia how...?the "dig mud will be wiped out from malaysia...all their families ..all died...in the end....they oso no money to rebuild their nation....!
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