How to KC a WL without being KC-ed by Her

[Harvest]

Originally Posted by warbird

Why do I want a WL to fall madly in love w/ me (unrequited love for me)? For fun, risks, thrills, sense of accomplishment, adrenaline rush, etc. And why not? Life is either a daring adventure or nothing. Being n getting nothing is not a wise option.
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I know it's a tough mission, specially w/ those young/pretty PRC MMs, but certainly doable. I think I'm making steady progress, aided greatly by body language training, NLP, meditation...it's a mind game.

The question is how much time n efforts I'm willing to invest...and my ROI...

BTW, to own her heart, money is unimportant (believe it or not). In fact, throwing money n showering her w/ gifts will make u unattractive, even repulsive, to her at the subconscious level. Trust me on this one.

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Hi bro Harvest,

You must be a master of NLP or neuro-linguistic programming. It takes a lot of practice to be effective though.

Thx for sharing.

Bro Warbird,

I have confidence that with your wealth of experience and good progress, u will certainly outdo your "dream girls" in this KC game. Yes, it is all a mind game. And yes, I'm a NLP practitioner (you too!) and the strategies I've shared are all modified/improvised from the NLP skills I've acquired over the years.

Why not u share with us your strategies and insights to this game while I take a little break?? As the saying goes, "一山还有一山高"... I think your mountain could be higher than mine liao!

[meatloaf]

all the masters and high hands converging here

great tips from all the senior bros

[pussyman72]

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

To know a FL/WL, you'll need the very basic...$$$$$$$$
For them to even really notice you, you'll also need the very basic....$$$$$$
For them to really get close to you or to allow yourself to be shortlisted, you'll need to have the basic.......$$$$$$$$$$
Of cos, charisma etc follows..........
But to have $$$$ does not mean you be a damn bloody carrot head but spend only when necessary.

finally someone catch what i said again

if the ger want only handsome guys, there are many in their own country and speak their own language wtf they need someone who doesnt understand them, their culture, their language....

if the gers not looking for $$$ then why they come to sgp for? for fun??? kc trap have many ways not just the gers play even guys like us play the game with them.... in order to play them $$$ is involve dont tell me dont need to buy things for them, bring them out to eat n so on... this also consider as $$$ used on them...

it not a matter whether we are rich n can throw money at them... i dont wish to tell how we play the game. many of us have our own way to play the games with the WLs / FLs.... it how much we spend on them... some gers look far to see how much they can suck u and some ger will slaughter instantly after a few meet up..

If pple thinks it so easy to get WLs / FLs to crazy over u or so call kc them.. u are damn wrong... they are not as easy as we think they are... unless u manage to catch green horn who just started work even that they have old bird WLs ard teaching them what to do....

i also speaking from experience and I see with my own eyes how this girls KC the men while the men think they are smarter then them ... in the end the men got kc big time... how i know, the gers show it to me how they kc guys.... why they show me, i dont need to said more bcos of somethings that i have help them before n they treat me as a very good friend. Also telling me not to trust WLs / FLs gers...

anyway to each his own... just try not to be too smart think we can kc the WLs or FLs can liao... else the one being slaughter is the Guy.

Chook dee krup

[Harvest]

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

Bro Harvest, i'm curious about something.
You mean you can KC a WL/FL in a sexual setting?
You mean you can KC them in sex????? Like the look in her eyes, how she looks at you etc etc?
I always tot the KC 99% happens away from bed??????
Sorry ah, no pun intended but like i posted earlier, have not slept yet so maybe mind already half screwed hehehehe

Bro DYBJ, in my opinion, YES. The basic principle of effective seduction is that it always happens at a subconscious level, when it is least expected catching the party unaware. It doesn't matter whether it is in bed or out of bed. We guys are generally seduced by LOOKS, while the girls are seduced by TOUCH and WORDS.... which can still take place in a sexual setting.

[Harvest]

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

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The golden rule we must all remember is this like the topic of this discussion:
Re: How to KC a WL without being KC-ed by Her

There is no right or wrong formula.
It's ever changing and evolving
Fuck and forget, good to use for newbies but lao jaio, they'll say waste time no kick! Well, I'll be the 1st.......F&F waste time(no offense to bros who live by this principle)

To KC and not be KCed only can require one skill, like it or not, accept it or not, but its the only way or else confirm kenna highway!
It's called, lies and deciet.
Why? Damn bastard rite????
Nope, to me it isnt.
How you make a gal fall in love wif you????
You say all those luvy dovy things, do all those luvy dovy things and you still dun get KCed or already kenna KC??????
Come on...dun gel rite
The only way is to be a Golden Horse Award winner and act all the way thru, in more uncensored terms, lie or cheat your way thru her heart......or else, how else can you not get KCed and play along and walk away unscathed?????
Make sense?????

Well, to me, it's all an act, an like i always preach they're all ghosts, and to catch a thief, you gotta be a bigger thief...else, there's no other way to really come out of this without a single scratch.

Bro, technically speaking you are CORRECT. All these strategies I've been trying to refrain from talking about because I believe in something called KARMA. You see my signature u know what I mean. I will share a true story later on this...

[EtherC]

Hmm what's this? Legend of the Chicken Shooting Heroes?

[Harvest]

A Message To All Seniors in This KC Game

First, many thanks again to bros here who have supported this thread and contributed your share of experiences and insights, concerns and thoughts etc here. I truely appreciate it.

I would like to share a true story with all the Senior bros here... the highly-acclaimed lau jiaos of this KC game who have survived and thrived with their wealth of knowledge, track record and experiences... and whom I have my due respect for...

Long, long time ago... in a commercial sex galaxy far, far away... when SBF was just conceived in the old Delphi forum... I was a young apprentice in this KC game learning the ropes from a Master Rules Player. He was then a highly-regarded senior and honoured in the respectable Surpreme KC Jedi Council. He was the one who imparted me the 3 Rules of Engagement, and mentored me on the tricks of the KC game. He shared with me many advanced strategies to seduce the WLs both in bed and out of bed...and he became really a powerful KC Master at his prime. I've lost count how many WLs "died" under his spell while I was still struggling to master 10% of his skills. There seems to be nothing to stop him at all. His motto: Life is a daring KC adventure or nothing at all!

Then something happened.

As he became more and more powerful in his KC force, he became more and more PROUD of his achievements. He began to believe that he is INFALLABLE... like a GOD... then before he realised, he has already let his guard down and got smitten by a WL who was extremely ang pai at that time. To cut the story short, he began breaking all the RULES he had religiously observed... and ended up a very sad KC victim, to say the very least. Just like the U.S. sub-prime bubble that eventually burst, his ego was burst BIG TIME, and in his great disappointment he turned into a.... KC SITH LORD.

Ever since his new transformation, he cheats and swindles WLs for a LIVING. He lives for REVENGE... The last time I heard he was on the run from the law... and that was like some 3 years ago.

Why am I sharing this?

I'm NOT saying that anyone of you will end up in this extreme, but potentially, WE ALL CAN. With great powers come great responsibilities. The name of this KC game may be lotz of fun and thrill, but the consequence can be equally damaging... either you are the victim or the WL is the victim. And even if you are the biggest Victor today, you may be the saddest Victim tomorrow... what goes around, comes around. So don't take too much pride in your current achievements.

My advocate is therefore to KC the WL only for the purpose of a sexual activity (So it will not break Rule #3). Willing buyer, willing seller, but enhanced sexual experience without the emotional baggages.

Senior bros here may find this "no kick" so I regret I have to disappoint... but of course to each his own.

Thanks for your kind attention.

To be continued...

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Bro harvest, good story, sigh....so true...so true.........
A Message To All Seniors in This KC Game[/U][/SIZE]

First, many thanks again to bros here who have supported this thread and contributed your share of experiences and insights, concerns and thoughts etc here. I truely appreciate it.

I would like to share a true story with all the Senior bros here... the highly-acclaimed lau jiaos of this KC game who have survived and thrived with their wealth of knowledge, track record and experiences... and whom I have my due respect for...

Long, long time ago... in a commercial sex galaxy far, far away... when SBF was just conceived in the old Delphi forum... I was a young apprentice in this KC game learning the ropes from a Master Rules Player. He was then a highly-regarded senior and honoured in the respectable Surpreme KC Jedi Council. He was the one who imparted me the 3 Rules of Engagement, and mentored me on the tricks of the KC game. He shared with me many advanced strategies to seduce the WLs both in bed and out of bed...and he became really a powerful KC Master at his prime. I've lost count how many WLs "died" under his spell while I was still struggling to master 10% of his skills. There seems to be nothing to stop him at all. His motto: Life is a daring KC adventure or nothing at all!

Then something happened.

As he became more and more powerful in his KC force, he became more and more PROUD of his achievements. He began to believe that he is INFALLABLE... like a GOD... then before he realised, he has already let his guard down and got smitten by a WL who was extremely ang pai at that time. To cut the story short, he began breaking all the RULES he had religiously observed... and ended up a very sad KC victim, to say the very least. Just like the U.S. sub-prime bubble that eventually burst, his ego was burst BIG TIME, and in his great disappointment he turned into a.... KC SITH LORD.
Sigh...sigh...sigh....really sounds like me, but again, many who knows my story will surely ask if i was KCed in the 1st place cos many knows both and knows both fell into this shit...so.......but i learned.........polished my skills and in no way, ever turned to the darkside of the force hehehehe

Ever since his new transformation, he cheats and swindles WLs for a LIVING. He lives for REVENGE... The last time I heard he was on the run from the law... and that was like some 3 years ago.
That's Y i said before and warned many who are in this, after one episode in your life, you'll change forever, some change for a more potent weapon, some turn to total implosion and will never be NORMAL again, like your master bro....sad...so sad for him......
Why am I sharing this?

I'm NOT saying that anyone of you will end up in this extreme, but potentially, WE ALL CAN. With great powers come great responsibilities. The name of this KC game may be lotz of fun and thrill, but the consequence can be equally damaging... either you are the victim or the WL is the victim. And even if you are the biggest Victor today, you may be the saddest Victim tomorrow... what goes around, comes around. So don't take too much pride in your current achievements.

My advocate is therefore to KC the WL only for the purpose of a sexual activity (So it will not break Rule #3). Willing buyer, willing seller, but enhanced sexual experience without the emotional baggages.

Senior bros here may find this "no kick" so I regret I have to disappoint... but of course to each his own.

Thanks for your kind attention.

To be continued...
As for the Karma part, yeah but retribution come in 2 stages, they do what they do for a living, thus you become their retribution.
How do you prevent karma....find the good souls and help them, i.e, charity work.......
You kill the bad but help the good and deserving.
This is something my sifu has taught me.
As we plough thru the nightscene, we pass thru many many WLs, though most are here wif motives, when we do find a gem, be their guardian angel.....
Example, like i've posted not too long ago, i know this singer, from Hunan...not a real looker but has a heart of gold........
My charity to her???? Always be her guiding light, be her shoulder to cry on and last, when she cannot hit her flower target at the end of the month, i'll top it up for her. Remember the one i posted that gave me a xmas present on Dec08? That one.
What i get in return????? Nothing...absolutely nothing......why you may ask? Carrot head some may call........we do bad, must also know how to do charity to balance it off........trust me, if you KC them WLs and help those who r really genuine, the feeling is damn great!
By this, you have already reached a level of play to decide who lives and who dies and who gets left alone!
By that, you would have already moved into the level of a PLAYER!
The kind that WLs/FLs warn each other to be very watchful of......

[Optimus_Prime]

Originally Posted by Harvest

As he became more and more powerful in his KC force, he became more and more PROUD of his achievements. He began to believe that he is INFALLABLE... like a GOD... then before he realised, he has already let his guard down and got smitten by a WL who was extremely ang pai at that time. To cut the story short, he began breaking all the RULES he had religiously observed... and ended up a very sad KC victim, to say the very least.

My advocate is therefore to KC the WL only for the purpose of a sexual activity (So it will not break Rule #3). Willing buyer, willing seller, but enhanced sexual experience without the emotional baggages.

Which is why I always say "Never think you are smarter than these WLs".

As for playing the KC game, people play it for various reasons. Just remember, the law of alchemy. One transaction for another. Everything you take, you need to give back in equal part. (whether it be $, emotions or time)

It's a universal rule. There's NO having your cake and eating it too.

[warbird]

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

Actually, not entirely true bro..............

To know a FL/WL, you'll need the very basic...$$$$$$$$...............
Of cos, charisma etc follows..........
But to have $$$$ does not mean you be a damn bloody carrot head but spend only when necessary.

.As u know, me play singers only................

I notice many men, will do everything to please these WL/FL...i'm so amazed..
Bros who cheong wif me will know, if mine throw tantrums, guarantee she'll be crying and silent the rest of the night........

I've known men who bot properties for them too....................................

It's called, lies and deciet.
Why? Damn bastard rite????
Nope, to me it isnt.
How you make a gal fall in love wif you????
You say all those luvy dovy things, do all those luvy dovy things and you still dun get KCed or already kenna KC??????
???.............................

Of course you're right, bro.

One needs to hang money to get to know these singers, anywhere from $200 to 2-3K a night, perhaps twice a week for a month or more. And if she likes the man n the karma is right, then one may own her body for a ST or longer term...for more money. With enough money, she may become one's wife/er nei/GF or whatever, even hv one's kids...n she may or may not be in love w/ him.

IMHO, it takes more than money to own her heart. In fact, no amount of money ALONE will do the trick becos falling in love happens at the subconscious level. In other words, she can't consciously choose whom she falls in love with.

Originally Posted by Harvest

Bro Warbird,

I have confidence that with your wealth of experience and good progress...

Why not u share with us your strategies and insights to this game while I take a little break?? As the saying goes, "一山还有一山高"... I think your mountain could be higher than mine liao!

Hi bro Harvest,

I admire ur humility. Actually, I'm still a student of NLP n mind control. I practice these methods for self-improvement. Applying them to KC a WL/FL is of secondary importance to me, hehehe.

Originally Posted by Harvest

A Message To All Seniors in This KC Game
..................I would like to share a true story with all the Senior bros here.............................................. ...............................................
Thanks for your kind attention.
To be continued...

Thx for sharing this true story. We should never let our guard down when dealing w/ these FLs/WLs. They r masters of survival...

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

As for the Karma part, yeah but retribution come in 2 stages............................................ ........................
By that, you would have already moved into the level of a PLAYER!
The kind that WLs/FLs warn each other to be very watchful of......

Hi bro,

Great insights...thx a lot!

[fee3fow]

"自古英雄难过美人关" Even KC masters will meet their demise one day

[DO_YOU_BJ]

You're most welcome bro warbird, just sharing my very limited greenhorn knowledge that's all.....
Cheers

[pussyman72]

well i seen and hear about so call masters who think they can kc the gers alot....

doesnt matter how exp we are... to each of us, we sure have one or twice get burn even we know the thing is coming or worst dont know...

im one example.. no matter how much i understand thai gers, still i get burn once awhile depending how serious it going to be...

i too have a friend who claim that he is the master knowing what the ger think and he always think he is so handsome that he can get a ger anytime... i warn him before but he turn a deaf ear why cos he was doing it too much even he himself fail to see the shit coming in.... he knows the shit but he was blinded...

in the end... he fall into the pit and the bros have to be there for him... after that he disappear.....

nevertheless it does not matter how exp we are. we still get burn is how we deal with it...

we can write alot said alot but in the end it up to the person how he wanna play this game if he keep his mind focus, he will be safe but if he is not then good luck to him cos after that i will keep hearing pple cursing the gers for cheating them......

which i always been stressing the pple who curse the gers for kcing them, did not realize they are the one thinking they can make the diff and they are the willing party who wants to clap hand with the ger. so why blame others when we ask to be kc...

every man wants to be a "hero" thinking they knows better then anyone and can deal with the gers, be the ger's hero but in actual fact everyone dont know what they are doing when the kcing become more serious till no point of returns......

just dont forget one thing.... we can be very experience in this kc games but when we get too cocky thinking we know all in no time the person get burn is us cos we think we know all...

[Hulunbeier]

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

Bro harvest, good story, sigh....so true...so true.........
A Message To All Seniors in This KC Game[/U][/SIZE]

First, many thanks again to bros here who have supported this thread and contributed your share of experiences and insights, concerns and thoughts etc here. I truely appreciate it.

I would like to share a true story with all the Senior bros here... the highly-acclaimed lau jiaos of this KC game who have survived and thrived with their wealth of knowledge, track record and experiences... and whom I have my due respect for...

Long, long time ago... in a commercial sex galaxy far, far away... when SBF was just conceived in the old Delphi forum... I was a young apprentice in this KC game learning the ropes from a Master Rules Player. He was then a highly-regarded senior and honoured in the respectable Surpreme KC Jedi Council. He was the one who imparted me the 3 Rules of Engagement, and mentored me on the tricks of the KC game. He shared with me many advanced strategies to seduce the WLs both in bed and out of bed...and he became really a powerful KC Master at his prime. I've lost count how many WLs "died" under his spell while I was still struggling to master 10% of his skills. There seems to be nothing to stop him at all. His motto: Life is a daring KC adventure or nothing at all!

Then something happened.

As he became more and more powerful in his KC force, he became more and more PROUD of his achievements. He began to believe that he is INFALLABLE... like a GOD... then before he realised, he has already let his guard down and got smitten by a WL who was extremely ang pai at that time. To cut the story short, he began breaking all the RULES he had religiously observed... and ended up a very sad KC victim, to say the very least. Just like the U.S. sub-prime bubble that eventually burst, his ego was burst BIG TIME, and in his great disappointment he turned into a.... KC SITH LORD.
Sigh...sigh...sigh....really sounds like me, but again, many who knows my story will surely ask if i was KCed in the 1st place cos many knows both and knows both fell into this shit...so.......but i learned.........polished my skills and in no way, ever turned to the darkside of the force hehehehe

Ever since his new transformation, he cheats and swindles WLs for a LIVING. He lives for REVENGE... The last time I heard he was on the run from the law... and that was like some 3 years ago.
That's Y i said before and warned many who are in this, after one episode in your life, you'll change forever, some change for a more potent weapon, some turn to total implosion and will never be NORMAL again, like your master bro....sad...so sad for him......
Why am I sharing this?

I'm NOT saying that anyone of you will end up in this extreme, but potentially, WE ALL CAN. With great powers come great responsibilities. The name of this KC game may be lotz of fun and thrill, but the consequence can be equally damaging... either you are the victim or the WL is the victim. And even if you are the biggest Victor today, you may be the saddest Victim tomorrow... what goes around, comes around. So don't take too much pride in your current achievements.

My advocate is therefore to KC the WL only for the purpose of a sexual activity (So it will not break Rule #3). Willing buyer, willing seller, but enhanced sexual experience without the emotional baggages.

Senior bros here may find this "no kick" so I regret I have to disappoint... but of course to each his own.

Thanks for your kind attention.

To be continued...
As for the Karma part, yeah but retribution come in 2 stages, they do what they do for a living, thus you become their retribution.
How do you prevent karma....find the good souls and help them, i.e, charity work.......
You kill the bad but help the good and deserving.
This is something my sifu has taught me.
As we plough thru the nightscene, we pass thru many many WLs, though most are here wif motives, when we do find a gem, be their guardian angel.....
Example, like i've posted not too long ago, i know this singer, from Hunan...not a real looker but has a heart of gold........
My charity to her???? Always be her guiding light, be her shoulder to cry on and last, when she cannot hit her flower target at the end of the month, i'll top it up for her. Remember the one i posted that gave me a xmas present on Dec08? That one.
What i get in return????? Nothing...absolutely nothing......why you may ask? Carrot head some may call........we do bad, must also know how to do charity to balance it off........trust me, if you KC them WLs and help those who r really genuine, the feeling is damn great!
By this, you have already reached a level of play to decide who lives and who dies and who gets left alone!
By that, you would have already moved into the level of a PLAYER!
The kind that WLs/FLs warn each other to be very watchful of......

Hi BroDYBJ

I actually read this post twice trying to understand what u have actually written cause it was Full Of Contradictions from the one u wrote earlier...Lend your ears but deaf Ears...well after reading the 2nd time..Finally I have gotten what you mean.....<<the feeling is damn great>>....cheers!

[pussyman72]

since bros here wanna sure true life exp. i will share some of mines.

let me share on the story i just posted in the previous posting.

same Like bro harvest, i was in sammy delphi forum many yrs ago. got to know a team of cheongster and we have to parties playing diff area of thailand.

cut it short. there is this bro that always claim that his ger is the most ang pai in ktv. no1 in the work place... he always said that the ger love him very much. he been with this ger for 1 or 2 yrs something like that.

he always claim that he know the thai gers very well. knowing what they are thinking... he feed the ger, spending money repairing the ger's family house and provide her uni study...

at that time i was having my 2nd relationship with my thai gf n later got blue black...after that i wake up n when i went to see him. he was tell me about his ger. i told him better be careful u may not know whether she have a sugar daddy outside. well his answer to me is wont happen... said how his ger enjoy his sex. how good he give his ger the sex till she went crazy over him.. blah blah...

one day when i was in thailand. he call me when i was having my fark with another ger. told him to come up 15min later. when he is up. his hair was mess up and very very down... he not been sleeping for 2 days bcos his ger left him...

just imagine a guy who claim to be expert becomes a guy that i cannot even recognized. he think he have kc the ger in the end he got kc big time till he almost become crazy.... best thing the next few trip i came up n i was playing gogo gers, he tested my friendship using a WL.... when i not ard he go book the WL that im playing, offering the ger 5k baht...just to sleep with him....

he never fark the ger but was trying to play mind game with the ger. trying to see the ger really like me or not LOL when i got to know i fark him like fark cos he try to use a WL to test my friendship.... to me if u are willing to pay n the wl willing to go, im fine cos it anybody gers... unless the ger die die dont go... anyway to me the ger should take the money n go with him cos she is trying to earn a living...

anyway just imagine he got kc by a ger n he went bonkers after that.... his mind was not stable at all.....