Issue with ICA

[mrRhodes]

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

how many days she had stayed in sinkie land for the past 6 mths...

Next week will be 30 days. Used to go China to visit her. Previous time she came was more than 6 months back.

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by mrRhodes

Next week will be 30 days. Used to go China to visit her. Previous time she came was more than 3 months back.

any foreigner cannot reside in any country for more than 60 days within 6 mths and more than 90 days within 1 year...otherwise they are termed resident of the country...any foreigner can reside here longer will need a special visa such as WP, SP, Student Pass, EP, PR, etc...this apply to any country...

your gf must have stayed here at least more than 30 days last trip...

[mrRhodes]

Hi bro, there was a typo, she wasn't here other than this trip for the past 6 months. But the 2nd option is a certainty as the previous time she came, she stayed 2 months here.

[ilovedoggie]

Need some bros advice:

My VB came to singapore twice already this year: feb-april (extended 2-moth stay) and May-June(extended but 1 month+ stay).

Last 2 weeks she tried to come but was denied an entry and repatriated on the same day. She said she was brought into a room and interviewed. ICA ask her purpose of visit and how much cash she brought. She answered she come here to tour and show cash of $1k. NOT ENOUGH. She gave them my number but they never called me.

recently, She tried again but with a new passport. Again ICA got record that she came in before and ask her the purpose of visit and her contact here. This time she gv them her "sister" number. They called her but her sister mentioned an address which is different from that stated in her white card. They didn't even ask how much cash she bring. She got detained in a room and repatriated the next day. Was asked to pay US$260 upon departure.

I think it's the 6-month cycle thing that stop her from entering but ICA nvr tell her about it. So now she got an idea... She told me another gal asked a SG guy to go over vn and come to SG with her. She was allowed to come. She asked me if i do it for her. I'm thinking there could be implication if they have record of me with her.

Any bros here got similar situation? In the first place, does this idea even work? That gal brought a SG guy with her might be a lucky case only.

What kind of scenario would happen at the airport and how is the procedure at the airport like if i were to come together with her? Will i be required to sign any form of agreement to be her sponsor on the spot? If just simple questioning and no record of me agreed to be her sponsor and thereby bearing all the liabilities, i'm still ok. And what is my liability?

I understand that the power to allow her to enter SG lies in the hand of the ICA officers at the airport. Even though someone apply visit pass for her it doesn't mean she can come in as the decision is made on merit basis at the airport.

Bro Goldenquestion, your older post stated that you gave your gal your namecard and she showed it to them when she was interviewed at the airport? Did the ICA take your namecard? I was thinking of using the same trick as you And yeah true i am scared because she come here to work.

[Schenker]

Originally Posted by ilovedoggie

Need some bros advice:

recently, She tried again but with a new passport. Again ICA got record that she came in before and ask her the purpose of visit and her contact here. This time she gv them her "sister" number. They called her but her sister mentioned an address which is different from that stated in her white card. They didn't even ask how much cash she bring. She got detained in a room and repatriated the next day. Was asked to pay US$260 upon departure.

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What kind of scenario would happen at the airport and how is the procedure at the airport like if i were to come together with her? Will i be required to sign any form of agreement to be her sponsor on the spot? If just simple questioning and no record of me agreed to be her sponsor and thereby bearing all the liabilities, i'm still ok. And what is my liability?

I understand that the power to allow her to enter SG lies in the hand of the ICA officers at the airport. Even though someone apply visit pass for her it doesn't mean she can come in as the decision is made on merit basis at the airport.

Bro Goldenquestion, your older post stated that you gave your gal your namecard and she showed it to them when she was interviewed at the airport? Did the ICA take your namecard? I was thinking of using the same trick as you And yeah true i am scared because she come here to work.

Why does your ger change a new passport? Passport expired? Change to a new passport with diff identity? Or change a new passport hoping that her past records will not be referred?

You can stake your wager by accompany her to SG from VN. But be prepared for a separate one-to-one- interview by the ICA officials.

And lastly, from your post, you mentioned that you are scare. If you are scare, suggest you don't do it.

[shysaint]

Originally Posted by ilovedoggie

They called her but her sister mentioned an address which is different from that stated in her white card.

That definitely cost her the chance to enter Singapore !

Originally Posted by ilovedoggie

Was asked to pay US$260 upon departure.

Never heard of this ...

Originally Posted by ilovedoggie

I'm thinking there could be implication if they have record of me with her.

Are you sure she is your VB ????

Originally Posted by ilovedoggie

Any bros here got similar situation?

MANY MANY ....

Originally Posted by ilovedoggie

What kind of scenario would happen at the airport

Either can clear or cannot clear immigration ... Only 2 scenarios ...

Originally Posted by ilovedoggie

and how is the procedure at the airport like if i were to come together with her?

You clear your own she clear her own ... No special procedure ...

Originally Posted by ilovedoggie

Will i be required to sign any form of agreement to be her sponsor on the spot? If just simple questioning and no record of me agreed to be her sponsor and thereby bearing all the liabilities, i'm still ok. And what is my liability?

Your NriC number will be written down on her DE Card so that it will be key into the system n also check if u r married ...

There will be a questioning session but is Not for u ... It's for her.

Liabilities ???? Hmmmm ...

Originally Posted by ilovedoggie

I understand that the power to allow her to enter SG lies in the hand of the ICA officers at the airport. Even though someone apply visit pass for her it doesn't mean she can come in as the decision is made on merit basis at the airport.

You already got dome answer in your mind when you type out this particular statement

Originally Posted by ilovedoggie

And yeah true i am scared because she come here to work.

Scared ? How come u get involved with her leh ????

[ilovedoggie]

Originally Posted by shysaint

Are you sure she is your VB ????



MANY MANY ....



Either can clear or cannot clear immigration ... Only 2 scenarios ...



You clear your own she clear her own ... No special procedure ...



Your NriC number will be written down on her DE Card so that it will be key into the system n also check if u r married ...

There will be a questioning session but is Not for u ... It's for her.

Liabilities ???? Hmmmm ...



You already got dome answer in your mind when you type out this particular statement



Scared ? How come u get involved with her leh ????

in the first place, thank you bro shysaint for your effort in typing out all these.

Yes i'm pretty sure she is my VB.

I believe many bros here to know what to do for such situation.

the scenario i mean is will i be required to sign anything like to be her sponsor and be liable for her misbehaviour should she break the law here. Yes it is true i am scared but i still have the thought of doing it. However, i believe i should know what risk am i involved in so that i can take calculated risk for the reward i might gain.

So my intention of posting here on this forum is to listen and maybe i can get some ideas what would happen at the airport, the consequences/liabilities, if any bros here have experience doing it. Please... I beg everyone. I have been troubled by such thing recently. I know it's a chance i should take if i were to get involved in her. I can't provide for her financially but at least if possible and there's not much/no consequences, this is what i can do for her. Of course i have to exercise my own due diligence and research to back my action and hence the consequences thereafter.

If anyone can provide me with more info, i will thank you very very very very much and deduct my life span for you! please...

[8861]

hi can any bro advice,

my girlfriend sister from prc one month visa is due soon, i understand can extend online for another month subjected to approval by ica,however i am not the sponser so during the application for extension is it ok if the address is different from the initial application,many many thanks

[shysaint]

Originally Posted by ilovedoggie

in the first place, thank you bro shysaint for your effort in typing out all these.

Yes i'm pretty sure she is my VB.

I believe many bros here to know what to do for such situation.

the scenario i mean is will i be required to sign anything like to be her sponsor and be liable for her misbehaviour should she break the law here. Yes it is true i am scared but i still have the thought of doing it. However, i believe i should know what risk am i involved in so that i can take calculated risk for the reward i might gain.

So my intention of posting here on this forum is to listen and maybe i can get some ideas what would happen at the airport, the consequences/liabilities, if any bros here have experience doing it. Please... I beg everyone. I have been troubled by such thing recently. I know it's a chance i should take if i were to get involved in her. I can't provide for her financially but at least if possible and there's not much/no consequences, this is what i can do for her. Of course i have to exercise my own due diligence and research to back my action and hence the consequences thereafter.

If anyone can provide me with more info, i will thank you very very very very much and deduct my life span for you! please...

Bro ...

I thought I gave answered your qns?

Let me re-write ...

The scenario is very simple ...

1. If she is ALONE ....

If lucky ... Clear immigration without questioning.
If unlucky, will called into office for questioning.... Will be ask why she come here? Where she stay? Any reference n reference's contact? If it is trustworthy based on the assessment , she will be cleared else probably send go back. Else they will call the reference contact given to question the reference given. If they are ok, the reference contact will be asked to come down to airport with his/her NRIC to pick up the gal.

2. If YOU are with the HER ...

If she is lucky , clear immigration with questioning.
At this point, during clearing n the officer realize you are with her , the officer will ask her or you , how are you all related? If bf/gf... The officer will write down your IC on her DE card for further checking ... subsequently after you are checked and are cleaned, next entry for her alone is easier , else she will most likely be refused entry on her next visit.

If she is Unlucky... She will be called into the office for questioning. A repeat of the same process ... N please at this point, the reference stated must be you else it will cause confusion N unworthiness that why u are her bf n bring her in n the reference is not you. If they know you are outside, likely she will be cleared.

Additional scenario ...

A. Her photo n thumbprints will be taken in the office .
B. You will be screened for single or married.
C. Luggage may be opened to screened for sexy clothings if she us deemed untrustworthy.

At all theses juncture.... NO documents will be signed n you will NoT be Liable for anything .... You are NOW only her reference in SG ... nothing more n nothing less !

You will be responsible only when you officially signed the SPONSOR documents!!!! - and these only applicable when she extend het stay further , apply for LTVP or PR.

However, it watever cases, stating as reference may be subjected to further questing if your gal are caught doing things illegally, repatriate back but then however disappear n did not report to the authority for repatriation.

Above stuffs that I share with you ate personal experiences n u search for my post, there are various case explanation to the stuff I wrote ....

[shysaint]

Originally Posted by 8861

hi can any bro advice,

my girlfriend sister from prc one month visa is due soon, i understand can extend online for another month subjected to approval by ica,however i am not the sponser so during the application for extension is it ok if the address is different from the initial application,many many thanks

It HAVE to extend Online, No Counter Submission unless Special cases.

Yes it's okie to be different ... The only point of consideration is trust worthiness ... They will check the record why different .

If it's approve, either they will give u an appointment to meet the officer for sponsor n original documents verification or they approval the extension straight away.

If approval pay $30 online n print out the new extended document

[ilovedoggie]

Originally Posted by shysaint

Bro ...

I thought I gave answered your qns?

Let me re-write ...

The scenario is very simple ...

1. If she is ALONE ....

If lucky ... Clear immigration without questioning.
If unlucky, will called into office for questioning.... Will be ask why she come here? Where she stay? Any reference n reference's contact? If it is trustworthy based on the assessment , she will be cleared else probably send go back. Else they will call the reference contact given to question the reference given. If they are ok, the reference contact will be asked to come down to airport with his/her NRIC to pick up the gal.

2. If YOU are with the HER ...

If she is lucky , clear immigration with questioning.
At this point, during clearing n the officer realize you are with her , the officer will ask her or you , how are you all related? If bf/gf... The officer will write down your IC on her DE card for further checking ... subsequently after you are checked and are cleaned, next entry for her alone is easier , else she will most likely be refused entry on her next visit.

If she is Unlucky... She will be called into the office for questioning. A repeat of the same process ... N please at this point, the reference stated must be you else it will cause confusion N unworthiness that why u are her bf n bring her in n the reference is not you. If they know you are outside, likely she will be cleared.

Additional scenario ...

A. Her photo n thumbprints will be taken in the office .
B. You will be screened for single or married.
C. Luggage may be opened to screened for sexy clothings if she us deemed untrustworthy.

At all theses juncture.... NO documents will be signed n you will NoT be Liable for anything .... You are NOW only her reference in SG ... nothing more n nothing less !

You will be responsible only when you officially signed the SPONSOR documents!!!! - and these only applicable when she extend het stay further , apply for LTVP or PR.

However, it watever cases, stating as reference may be subjected to further questing if your gal are caught doing things illegally, repatriate back but then however disappear n did not report to the authority for repatriation.

Above stuffs that I share with you ate personal experiences n u search for my post, there are various case explanation to the stuff I wrote ....

thank you shysaint. the scenario from your personal experiences is very very clear for me now. Thank you very much bro. I will post more when i have done it. Thanks!

[Golden question]

Originally Posted by ilovedoggie

in the first place, thank you bro shysaint for your effort in typing out all these.

Yes i'm pretty sure she is my VB.

I believe many bros here to know what to do for such situation.

the scenario i mean is will i be required to sign anything like to be her sponsor and be liable for her misbehaviour should she break the law here. Yes it is true i am scared but i still have the thought of doing it. However, i believe i should know what risk am i involved in so that i can take calculated risk for the reward i might gain.

So my intention of posting here on this forum is to listen and maybe i can get some ideas what would happen at the airport, the consequences/liabilities, if any bros here have experience doing it. Please... I beg everyone. I have been troubled by such thing recently. I know it's a chance i should take if i were to get involved in her. I can't provide for her financially but at least if possible and there's not much/no consequences, this is what i can do for her. Of course i have to exercise my own due diligence and research to back my action and hence the consequences thereafter.

If anyone can provide me with more info, i will thank you very very very very much and deduct my life span for you! please...

bro,the name card method i mention before is only applicable if your girl got no bad record but seem like she have been refuse entry before,so might not be useful.

in order to let my girl feel safe cos she have been question before on her second trip to visit me,i write a small note to let the immigration know that she is my girlfriend and she could not speak good english and if got any problem can contact me.i also attach my name card when she came on the 3rd time.

my girl show it to the immigration officer when she pass her passport to chop and she told me that nothing happen and also no officer call me

well all this happen 5 years ago and might not work now cos they are now more strict

[yeehaa]

woah, thanks bro for the informative stuffs, now i know how to better work around ICA!

[ilovedoggie]

Does she has to state that she is staying with me during the interview? If she say she's staying with me how? Thanks.

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by shysaint

the reference contact will be asked to come down to airport with his/her NRIC to pick up the gal.

The officer will write down your IC on her DE card for further checking

the reference record will be in the ICA system.

Once at the budget terminal, the officer scanned my NRIC. Now whenever my grlfriend comes, when she had her passport checked, my details will pop up as well.