How to KC a WL without being KC-ed by Her

[jon2000sg]

Originally Posted by Harvest

RECOVERY STRATEGIES

3. Do not Seek Revenge. Bitterness will only eat your soul alive. I know that forgiveness is one of the hardest thing to do in life; but by forgiving the person, you are really healing yourself of your emotional wounds. The more you let bitterness take root in you, the closer you are seduced to the dark side of the KC force... just read what happened to my Mentor here and you will understand what I mean.

To Be Continued...

the sweetest revenage is to post all photos of her esp. naked ones on SBF - juz like 'My Collections'

[Panda05]

Originally Posted by justl00king

I only know one rule-

If the gal really likes you, no need to spend money on her also she will spend time with you.

Bro ,

I can only Semi-agree with you on this.. You want the girl to be with you and you dun want to pay anything??? Come on.. they are only human.. they need to eat, shit, a shelter over their head, drink etc etc.. that's mean $$

You ask her to go out.. to eat/drink/cinema,, you expect her to pay for herself??? You ask her to accompany you to go for a trip of fun.. you want her to pay for her own expense???

有情喝水饱， love will keep us alive -- a big bag of bull shit !!!

My 2 cents.. Regards.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Originally Posted by Panda05

Bro ,

I can only Semi-agree with you on this.. You want the girl to be with you and you dun want to pay anything??? Come on.. they are only human.. they need to eat, shit, a shelter over their head, drink etc etc.. that's mean $$

You ask her to go out.. to eat/drink/cinema,, you expect her to pay for herself??? You ask her to accompany you to go for a trip of fun.. you want her to pay for her own expense???

有情喝水饱， love will keep us alive -- a big bag of bull shit !!!

My 2 cents.. Regards.

Well said Panda05, 爱情吃不饱肚子

[aczeta76]

Originally Posted by Harvest

RECOVERY STRATEGIES

You guys know how the story goes.

It all started out innocently as just another commercial bonk. Then the RTF... and more RTFs. But before you realize, what was supposed to be a release of lust morphed into a deep and intimate emotional bonding between a service provider and her customer. She claimed that you are the "special one" and that there's no other. She paints you dreams and hopes of a blissful future together. She captivates you with such beautiful eyes and natural c-cups, her loving embrace fills your nights with sweet slumber. Surely those tears of her pitiful past cannot be faked! Certainly it would be sinful to even doubt her sincerity! You are dying in your heart to believe her. And you did gave her the benefit of doubt and BELIEVED her. Soon, you are dating her out for shopping, makan, pubbing, sight-seeing etc. She even gave you FOC bonks, and you became absolutely convinced that you are indeed the "special one"! You are at the TOP of the WORLD! Because you just became her (bank account's) Knight in Shining Armour. And you have been KC-natored!

Thank you... I am safe!!!

Me dun KC C-cups... only smaller or bigger..hahaha

I guess the definitive line is not the "asking for $$" but if it is reasonable and for real reasons. Coz u need money in all situation mah...

Originally Posted by Panda05

Bro ,

I can only Semi-agree with you on this.. You want the girl to be with you and you dun want to pay anything??? Come on.. they are only human.. they need to eat, shit, a shelter over their head, drink etc etc.. that's mean $$

You ask her to go out.. to eat/drink/cinema,, you expect her to pay for herself??? You ask her to accompany you to go for a trip of fun.. you want her to pay for her own expense???

有情喝水饱， love will keep us alive -- a big bag of bull shit !!!

My 2 cents.. Regards.

Yes yes and no no... When I was studying, tried drinking lots of water instead of eating at the expensive canteen... result: many trips to toilet... no more no less and still hungry

U need to spend some money.. no 2 ways about it.. unless u are the gigolo then it is different lah..

Important thing is NOT spending excessively... she will not ask you for the sky... (some may)

Originally Posted by jackspider

Well said bro, i personally liked this phase the best.. Does reading this post also made me one of the KC resistance force
(Still not qualified to wear the red armband yet..)

hahaha.. this one reminds me of the "Red band" in changi chalet...ahem...

Well...I guess impt thing is that you must always be rooted to the ground and despite momentarily losing your senses once in a while, logic muz prevail.

When you start to kek-gao all the small things, the r/s is no longer enjoyable...

So... get in as deep as you can without drowning, enjoying the surfing and remember to head back to shore!

[NewandLost]

Originally Posted by Panda05

Bro ,

I can only Semi-agree with you on this.. You want the girl to be with you and you dun want to pay anything??? Come on.. they are only human.. they need to eat, shit, a shelter over their head, drink etc etc.. that's mean $$

You ask her to go out.. to eat/drink/cinema,, you expect her to pay for herself??? You ask her to accompany you to go for a trip of fun.. you want her to pay for her own expense???

有情喝水饱， love will keep us alive -- a big bag of bull shit !!!

My 2 cents.. Regards.

braddah, no body disagree with you. of course all women like to be winded and dined. been like that since adam and eve. but do you consider opening a watermelon shop for her family part of the romance? if you do i think you have been kc.

[K9696]

After reading thru from pg 1 ... to last page..

My analysis what most kind bros said...

1. 经一事长一致。
> this meant if you get smitten once, learn the mistake and move on and become smarter... S and S...

2. 重蹈覆辙。
> this meant never repeat the same doing again if you found that you have made the mistake.

Thanks to the TS and some sharing experience bro like DYBG etc..

Have a good weekends ahead

[aczeta76]

Originally Posted by K9696

After reading thru from pg 1 ... to last page..

My analysis what most kind bros said...

1. 经一事长一致。
> this meant if you get smitten once, learn the mistake and move on and become smarter... S and S...

2. 重蹈覆辙。
> this meant never repeat the same doing again if you found that you have made the mistake.

Thanks to the TS and some sharing experience bro like DYBG etc..

Have a good weekends ahead

Looks like a True or False quiz...

1. True
2. False... it will happen and happen and happen again and again and again...

[Panda05]

... but do you consider opening a watermelon shop for her family part of the romance? if you do i think you have been kc.

Well Bro,
The simple answer is No.

I have my fair share of those "requests".. want to obtain work permit, need S$8000 to pay agent to get it.. ask me to sponsor.. i say most I can spare is S$500。 Want to buy DVD player.. (small amt. but I say, what wrongs with watching TV in the hall? Soon, less & less request.. top up phone.. thought I know she can afford.. but I dun mind to pay for her.. but limit at $50/mth.. like what Bro aczeta76 say.. stand firm..

Next the watermelon shop.. interesting.. like I said, the simple answer is to turn down..just tell her you could not afford the spare $$. Like some Bro say, if she LOVE you.. she will understand.. if not may be it may prompt her to reveal her true color! Then its time to retreat and move on.

Regards.

[Panda05]

Originally Posted by aczeta76

Looks like a True or False quiz...

1. 经一事长一致。
> this meant if you get smitten once, learn the mistake and move on and become smarter... S and S...

2. 重蹈覆辙。
> this meant never repeat the same doing again if you found that you have made the mistake.

1. True
2. False... it will happen and happen and happen again and again and again...

Bro,
My Answer would be False & Fasle..
Reason, You thought you learn, and be smart.. but then History repeat it self.. therefore, you make the same mistake.. ==> you never learn. 哈哈哈哈。

Regards.

[justl00king]

Originally Posted by Panda05

Bro ,

I can only Semi-agree with you on this..

Bro,

For me, I always foot all the bills when we go out. Either being me to invite her, or her which is the one to ask me out. But I do not pay for her time, unless I feel like it.

She always have a choice whether or not she wants to go out with me.If she wants to make money, she could just say NO.


If she really like you, will be willing to spend her time with you. Those that you need to pay her $ to compensate for her time, are only treating you as a money tree.

[Panda05]

Originally Posted by justl00king

Bro,

For me, I always foot all the bills when we go out. Either being me to invite her, or her which is the one to ask me out. But I do not pay for her time, unless I feel like it.

If she really like you, will be willing to spend her time with you. Those that you need to pay her $ to compensate for her time, are only treating you as a money tree.

Bro,
Now that you clarify the matters.. Yes.. i fully agree with you on that.
Cheers.

[lp0okm]

I have just ended a relationship with a WL in singapore. Was horrid! After 1.5 years. Though, throughout the period i was with her, she didnt ask me for money or whatsoever. even when we broke off, she didnt ask me for anything in return. guess im pretty lucky in a sense.

before her was a few thai girls and luckily all ended pretty swiftly and i wasnt burned like a mad F..ker!

your advise pretty much sounds right and ill keep them in mind when venturing off for the next adventure!

[Harvest]

FAQs

Q1. You have always said the game of KC is a dangerous game. So why are you still in this game?

Ans: There is always risk in life, no matter what we do or how "safe" we think we are. So what I take is a calculated risk. As a cheongster, I aim to maximize my dollar value by enjoying the bonk to the fullest. That is why I'm in the KC game. For a little more KC investment, my regulars tend to reciprocate and "reward" me with a better bonk experience. Yes, there is no guarantee that I will not fall into any KC trap but the risk of that happening is lower with each year that I survive in this game, as long as I am not complacent and let my guard down. Women being women, they are r/s-oriented and for esp WLs, the sex industry is also a very high-touch industry. Amazingly, $$$ alone doesn't create an instant rewarding experience. Chemistry plays a big part too!

Q2. You mentioned in your Rules of Engagement #3 that we should stop RTF immediately when it doesn't feel like a commercial bonk anymore. But if I still love that great bonk with her, what should I do?

Ans: As hard as it may be to swallow, I would strongly advise that you'd better STOP seeing her (for at least a period of time) because when it doesn't feel like a commercial bonk anymore, it means that it is morphing into a r/s bonk! You'd to be totally honest with yourself - who is in control of the game now? Are u seeing her to release your lust or are you seeing her because you miss her dearly?? I know it is very hard to rationise and after 12 years in the KC game I'm also not spared from this tough decision. Just not too long ago, I came across a WL who totally "wow" me away and seems to be the woman of my dreams. And to be honest, I really miss her badly just after RTF-ing for about 4 times, even with all the emotional force-field up. So I made a painful decision to stop seeing her for 3 months. It was really a torture initially but I stuck to my rules... then 3 months later I RTF again and it was all back to normal. She tried to KC me big time and even had the cheek to ask me, "为什么我抓不到你的心？" but I didn't feel a thing for her liao, but yet I still enjoyed the top notch sex. So that is why I make sure I never break my own rules because I know at the end of the day it will save my ass and sanity.

Q3. If you keep playing this KC game, wouldn't you meet your match one day? As the saying goes, 一山还有一山高！

Ans: Of course we will all do in some point of time! One fine day, we will meet our "THE ONE" if we are long in this game enough and there's no running away from it. The trillion-dollar question then is: How honest are you to yourself?? You can lie to all the bros in SBF but you will be really pathetic to lie to yourself. So in order to keep myself from being conceited and keep my ego in check, I always remind myself that I'm human, I'm fallable and therefore I must be brutally honest to myself in every KC game and stick to my rules! No if's and no but's... day in and day out. And that's how I've survived so far.

Q4. You have spent a great deal detailing how to avoid being KC-ed but not much on how to KC the WL. What gives?

Ans: 5 Words: Defense is the best Offense. C'mon guys, how difficult is it really to KC a WL? Unless you are a complete nerd, if you can xian a babe down Orchard Rd or over MSN/QQ, I'm sure you have all the basic skills to KC the WL too. It is really not much difference... the sweet talks, tender loving touches, humouring her etc... Only the context is different! In the commercial sex setting, I KC the girl in bed to achieve my objective of maximizing my dollar value should I decide to place her on my regular list. I don't KC her to make her fall madly in love with me or hoping to capture her heart, mind and soul... So KC-ing is really the easy part, avoiding being KC-ed is the challenging part. Why? Because the WL would gladly love to capture your heart, mind and soul to maximize her longer-term ROIs from you (and your bank account). That is why I spent a great deal covering the defense, so that the casualty rate will (hopefully) be lower for newbie bros!

Q5. You teach newbies how to KC the WL good meh?? You might cause more harm and more KC casualties wor.

Ans: As far as I'm concerned, I've laid down all my disclaimers and my conscience is clear. I understand that this KC thing is a very controversial topic and might not sit well with some bros here. Nevertheless, we are all matured enough to access what have been discussed and decide for ourselves. I believe that I've done my part to the best of my abilities to share what I know. I'm heartened to receive PMs from newbie bros every now and then telling me how how much the sharings in this thread have impacted them and made them woke up. For this I have to thank all the other senior bros who have also contributed selflessly too.

To be Continued...

[ventu22]

Originally Posted by Panda05

Bro,
Now that you clarify the matters.. Yes.. i fully agree with you on that.
Cheers.

In game with these PRC mei mei you need money.. no question. Weather is wine & dine, or minor shopping trips. You have to put in fair share of investment before seeing any return. Of course, there are many bros here can enjoy fantastic ROI.. nothing investment. But we are not dealing with normal white collar gal that have a steady job that can last a life time. These gals has very short life span here and if the amount is not extravagant, then is no harm to help a little.

[justl00king]

Originally Posted by ventu22

These gals has very short life span here and if the amount is not extravagant, then is no harm to help a little.

Bro,

These gals are here for fast money. The prettier ones will have many sponsors. With some sweet talk and GF treatment, will get many to part with thier money. A few hundred dollars here and there from each will add up to thousands each time.Least effort and without even needing to spread thier legs.

Many of them the bank accounts may be even fatter than many of the bros here. They spend thier money on luxuries and a easy lifestyle, some keeping a toyboy as well. I know of gals who are making easily 20 grand a month, you think they need help?


The ones who really needs help are those without even the basic food and shelter.