Spoiling the Massues

[lifeisfun]

i remembered when prc first started to work as hostesses ( think Shanghainese gals were the poineers ) in local ktvs..almost all cheongsters would want them to sit in their rooms..tall fair shapely.etc..one of them even remarked that they, prc gals , did not need to sit on the laps on any customers to get fat tips and they were mocking the GROs from neighbouring countries.
but now due to competitions they even go to bed with you for $100 per bonk..years back when prc were scarce , $100 tips from a customer , to them is normal..and u dont even get to rabba them..
just like a brother mentioned..demand and supply and also many a time , our small head thinking not our big head...

[too_hot]

Originally Posted by PeteTsang69

besides mystery

What i mean by seducing them. . .is sometimes instead of waiting for them
i take initiative to see their reaction & keep pushing bit by bit
trick is i try my best (if keen on the girl) to set rapport ASAP . . .
been to her hometown, favourite foods, shopping, leisure, interest etc
smile a lot of course, be gentle, cheeky, whatever works

always interesting to see their reaction when i surprise them with my wandering hands

its all about having fun & enjoying it right?

cheers bros

.

Yes i see wat u mean. For me i seldom initiate. Wat i do is, i encourage, i.e. while lying on my stomach i spread my thighs wider as an "invitation". See if they take the hint. If they touch sensitive area, be it accident or on purpose, i will give a small groan or some other reaction to let them know that i liked it as an encouragement. so this ding-dong mind games can be arousing...

As for me seducing the maseuse, from wat i can remember only did it once which was in the now defunct (sadly) Blue Rose at Hougang. She was wearing short skirt and as she work her way around me my hands kept auto-roaming her thighs. Then i make a joke out of it saying that its not my fault rather my hands have a mind of their own. So i apologised on behalf on my hands - while STILL autoroaming her legs....for HC/TN till today Blue Rose is the best i EVER EVER had.

[too_hot]

Originally Posted by CheongStar2000

Brudders i started this not to flame anyone nor to abuse anyone verbally.

Honestly i am pleased with the replies of Bro toohot and Bro procum.

That things are sometimes not the way they seem. As in you must be paying lower but you end up paying higher. Honestly i do not Begrudge local or Malaysians being paid that sort of a price. Also i do not begrudge those working in the upscale HCs being paid that sort of a price.

But i definitely am against paying upmarket HC rates at low end TNs. Anyway i was trying to seek peoples opinion and get people to moderate prices.

Bro, glad u did not mistake mt reply as any kind of flame. Cheers. For a period, i was also in the same conundrum as u. Keep asking which is best value for $$? I am not rich so i tend to want to make the most of wat i have. But the more i *think* the more i confused then i realised it is not something u can *think* about as there are to many variables.

In the end, my choice of where to bonk also dictated by wat i feel like having that day. Its like food, sometimes u feel like having sushi, other days, chinese and other times italian or french, etc. Although everyone has their favourite type of food but nobody eat only ONE type of food. Also we can't compare that a $100 plate of tuna belly sashimi is "not worth" cos u can get huge piece of steak for that price or can get suckling pig at crystal jade....its apples and oranges....

Hope u & bro MTL can kiss and make up

[maituleow]

Originally Posted by CheongStar2000

Brudders i started this not to flame anyone nor to abuse anyone verbally.

Maybe after a man to man talk we can be good friends. Up to it Bro Maituleow?

Bro cheongstar2000,no worries I am speaking freely and do not have any agenda to raise your blood pressure.

Bro, 10 years of cheonging do you still pay the same rate throughtout?Or you oso pay more if you feel the girls worth it?

Can the tell the government not to increase their servant's salary?or can you try to get fellow singaporeans to try to moderate their pay increase? No right!!

If you think carefully about what I said about desperate childless couples ,could you not bring the issue out of context when I really meant that there are many desperate childless couples desperately wanting to adopt a baby and spent lots of money to conceive through different methods but have failed.

I have no doubt on your cheonging "experience" for 10+ years but I really meant it when I said you are doing the cheonging at the wrong end of the scale.

This forum advocates freedom of speech and opinions and who's to say neither one of us is right.

I will pm you later after my bonking session and maybe buy u coffee to share cheonging experience okay. Swee Boh!!!!!!!!

[davidona]

Our brothers speak their minds....Sometimes we just cannot help it but accept it coz our little head tells us it is necessary though our big head says too expensive.

[too_hot]

Originally Posted by joew2005

u buy a bottle of martel fr any shop,it cost less than SGD100.
why u still go ktv,where it cost ard SGD200 during HH & SGD350 after HH??

actually would be great if TN/HC also have happy hours during their slow period haha.....50% off entrance fee and 20% off specials

[Wins88]

I think it is a very individual and personal matter on how much to pay for HJ, BJ, or FJ at a HC/TN/FL etc. To each his own.
I mean it is up to the service provider to set the price and up to the market to decide if the price is reasonable, or atrociously high! Supply and Demand laws will prevail and the "market" price will be set - for each different service provider.

[Lauteko]

There is no such thing as spoiling the massuers. To me, it's always your choice. You wan to play then must be willing to pay. If the price is not right, then give the place a miss. Definitely the price will come down or the place will close down very soon if everybody think the price is too ex.

If you want to get good bargain prices, then work harder. There are so many budget recommendations from bros who shares. Get lobangs from reputable bros. Sumtimes spend some $$ to try out recommendations. After a few trial n error, you will find some reliable bros or bros whose recommendations suits you.

Dun always expect every place you go give you excellent service n good price. No such thing. You cannot oso mandate a price for all the services here. Services n prices are here to stay. Take it n enjoy it with a pinch of salt. Dun bargain too much or else the service provider will also start to cut corner. Wat if the gals oso get together to increase the prices of their services? The gals can oso complains that sum ppl spoil market by offering low prices!!

"Good Friend, Cheap Prices. Cheap Friend, Bad Price!!"

[alsahaf]

I think lower limit of prices are held by the 'middlemen' who do the immigration paperwork and stuff for the PRCs on Social Visit Passes.

If they charge X amount, the girls have to earn back at least X++ in the time allowed.

[whatafuck]

Originally Posted by Lauteko

There is no such thing as spoiling the massuers

Dun always expect every place you go give you excellent service n good price. No such thing. You cannot oso mandate a price for all the services here. Services n prices are here to stay. Take it n enjoy it with a pinch of salt. Dun bargain too much or else the service provider will also start to cut corner. Wat if the gals oso get together to increase the prices of their services? The gals can oso complains that sum ppl spoil market by offering low prices!!

"Good Friend, Cheap Prices. Cheap Friend, Bad Price!!"

Strongly agree with this brother, I would have written exactly if only I can express as well as he did. still a long way to learn to participate in this site.

[CheongStar2000]

Hi Bro Maituleow,

Its good that you said you are speaking freely and do not have intentions to raise my bloodpressure. Sorry i could not reply earlier.

Yes i have cheonged for more than 10years. I have a certain rate that I pay at all similar joints and the Massueses accept it without cutting corners or dropping service. Sex is one industry where prices generally do not follow inflation. Prices have generally been the same in the last 10 years or in many instances cheaper too (cause bigger talent pool available now with easy visas available to PRCS and other foreigners unlike earlier). In rare cases there have been mild to moderate increases which I find acceptable and i have paid the increases without battling an eyelid in such places.

While you pay a basic rate for the service they provide you can choose to tip the service provider if you find their service extraordinary. Ofcourse every masseu tries to make you feel like a king by making statements such as
1. wow your so handsome
2. wow you have a big cock
3. you play soccer? you have strong leg/thigh muscles
4. you have strong and long staying power
5. do you go to the gym?

Now these are small talk initiated only to make you feel happy and we may tend to lose control of our wallet when flattered. However its important to maintain control over our head at such times and ensure that we have more cheonging experiences at various joints/gals rather than unloading our wallets on 1 service provider. Ofcourse other bros will think differently and i don wish to oppose them. They have their reasons for thinking what they are doing is right and i have mine. Like one bro said if Fann Wong says 1 screw is $5k then thats what it is. Take it or leave it. Ofcourse we cant ask Fann Wong can you HJ me for $100?

Free Economics dictates that market is about demand and supply. Ofcourse they forgot to include negotiating strength. Has Technology not become cheaper? Have airfares not become cheaper? Is it not easier and cheaper to research today than decades ago? Are many branded medicines not cheaper today? Lets not get into this discussion. I just wanted to prove that not everything need become more expensive as years roll by. Things can get cheaper too.

Bro Maituleow where i felt you crossed the mark was asking me to pcc and save the Dollar. Now I was not getting personal with you. I did not even know you at that point. Then why target me?

You also said donate my sperm to desperate childess couples (in your first post) and in your second post you said """(((If you think carefully about what I said about desperate childless couples ,could you not bring the issue out of context when I really meant that there are many desperate childless couples desperately wanting to adopt a baby and spent lots of money to conceive through different methods but have failed. )))"""

Bro Maituleow you want me to take the above para out of context? You sure were congratulating me when you said this? I dun wish to get offensive here. But i hope you realise now what you said!

I totally agree with you when you say that "This forum advocates freedom of speech and opinions and who's to say neither one of us is right." I never said i am imposing my opinion on anyone. I dun want to. I am an ordinary cheongster. I cant do that surely.

But as men i am sure we can have man to man discussions, following certain rules:
1. Not getting excited/agitated/emotional
2. have a mature conversation and remain friends
3. We should not flame/hurt/abuse anyone.

Who benefits if prices are not too high? Who benefits if we share locations and contacts without unnecessarily flaming each other? if we save $$$ we can always use it to cheong again. And why not? How many brudders here can cheong spending $$$ or more everyday? or atleast 3-4 times a week? Salary statistics are publicized by the govt. So if you earn the statistical salary and if you have a family can you really cheong so often? OR if you have a Sg gal as ur gf can u really have lots of cheong $$$ to spare? Ofcourse there are some who are fortunate. But lets admit it most of us are not.

While not wanting to sound boastful i can say that i have cheonged a few times a week without paying ridiculous prices.

Those who can spend $$$$ and cheong frequently are either businessmen or really highly paid executives or born with silver spoons. Ofcourse there are those who pay using plastic at HCs and KTVs and incur debts with almost everybank in Singapore. I know of guys who have done that too.

One of the bros said that the massues can group up and increase prices and try not to lower their prices. I just want to tell that Bro that the MAssues are not idiots. They are much smarter than what we make them out to be. Infact they are much smarter than most of us no matter how highly we think of ourselves. Massues have always tried for the longest time to quote high prices and hold on to the high prices. Then... Why have they failed? They have failed becase:
1: the talent pool for massues is huge. if one refuses to lower the price there are 20 who are willing to lower the price. Gone are the days (as one bro rightly pointed out) when PRCS were a rarity and we were paying them top $. Today you can get them for $40 as well and mind you these are young and pretty ones. Not some old aunties.
2: There are always cash strapped massues. And these massues are cash strapped for various reasons maybe she needs to pay rent/someone at home needs money to buy tv or study or buy land or whatever. These cash strapped masseus will always lower the price. And it is this phenomena that has prevented prices for HJ/BJ and FJ from going northwards. So not withstanding some bros who say that prices must increase they wont. They just cant.

Phew... i dun wan to get into a discussion on cheonging at the wrong end of the scale. Honestly who is cheonging at the wrong end of the scale! Anybodys guess!

[maituleow]

[QUOTE=CheongStar2000;2590868]

Ai Yo u really very Lo Sor one, write so much and say you not getting personal.....I only want to say ONE thing DEMAND and SUPPLY determines the value.

I am ugly and old but I can pay premium for good girls and service, CAN BOH!
u maybe handsome and young and stinge on price also CAN Mah!

[CheongStar2000]

Bro Maituleow

Talking about paying premium and good service? Aiya i just dun wan to argue lah. YOU WIN. Happy!!!?

i already said i am a plain joe. i write so much cause i am a bit long winded thats all.

Happy Cheonging!!

( This is my theory........ You do not have to believe it......
Demand and Supply surely define price! Thats why prices have not moved up. Its not about being stingy but more about being insecure hence the premium. But nothing proves that pay premium got good service. Even Cat 150 cant provide good service many times.......)

[wanker10]

Bros,

Actually, going thru this thread, I really feel that there is no right or wrong in anyone perception. Willing seller willing buyer. Although sometime willing buyer will make some grunt when got home so it also boils down to one expection. So as long as all bros here can afford some fun or many many fun, (depends on individual spending power) to keep them happy then let it be. Life is short & let's ROCK!

Sidetrack a bit, the title should be "Spoiling the Masseur". There is no such word as in "Massues"

Cheers!

[Taiko2006]

In the past, I oso think like cheongstar2000. Nowadays, I just find useful senior's guide to get good bargain. We can get syt for as low as $60. What else to ask for. No need to squeeze those "unfortunate" souls who need to provide such service to make a living. I know many of us think they earn easy $$$ from servicing us. But many of them are not by choice. Not all were forced to but then in a certain way, they were forced either by circumstance of lack of other means.

So my policy is, "If I have some spare $$$, then I dun mind throwing away some. Just throw it wisely so that the little spare $$$ can go longer". It doesn't mean that I spend less $$ then I get worse service or vice-versa.

We cannot change the world to think like us. Rather we can adjust our style to suit the world. Watever it is, just be happy, dun worry.