Need help in appealing for entry of my VN wife with a criminal record

[Lost2013]

I see.. Also good la, no need worry on SG side... I guess you got your plans liao, no need for a small boy to comment anything.. Hahahaha..

And yea, bad karma.. But she also got do good deeds too.. Just maybe not enough.. So I have to pull her out of her business lor... See how it goes.. ~.~

Just to get some comments, if the girls here are already working at $6-24/shot.. By bringing them overseas to get $40-50+tips/shot and a chance to not get stucked with their useless bf here, and the person bringing never take any commission on those jobs/sales, is it really a bad thing? Earning just air tickets and coffee money...?

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by Lost2013

Just to get some comments, if the girls here are already working at $6-24/shot.. By bringing them overseas to get $40-50+tips/shot and a chance to not get stucked with their useless bf here, and the person bringing never take any commission on those jobs/sales, is it really a bad thing? Earning just air tickets and coffee money...?

earning any $$$ from gals in prostitution is illicit money...consider bad karma...

We do charities twice per year in Vietnam...once during TET and once Hungry Ghost Festival...a group of kind donors will be there helping too...you can search and read my thread...

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[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

earning any $$$ from gals in prostitution is illicit money...consider bad karma...

We do charities twice per year in Vietnam...once during TET and once Hungry Ghost Festival...a group of kind donors will be there helping too...you can search and read my thread...

I had many opportunities to earn Viet gals money in the past...I told myself NO...this is not good and bad karma...so I had rejected and washed away all those thoughts...

Once I touch I knew cannot stop...so better dun touch...also others approached me to intro Viet gals to come sinkieland to work...wiling to pay very high commission...I also rejected them...better to live a simple live and enjoy the company of Viet gals...

I dun bother with gals coming here...I just simply not keen since I have been going to Vietnam monthly...

[Lost2013]

Good work.. and I believe I'll be following your footsteps later on in life. Now trying to get some things done before my parents get too old.. Don't think they'll be that impressed if I can provide food for others when my own bowl is empty..

And yeah, this kind of money I also don't really want to earn.. No fun, just managing people.. for the wrong reasons.. ~.~ LoL..

I just started a fresh fruit/veg export company in vn.. Went to advertise (email and visit all those) a bit in SG but still no news.. =\ Ha... Wonder if I can find any guei ren soon.. Anyways, thanks for replying.. appreciate it.. =) Time for me to get back to advertising..

[ShittyAss]

Yoz TS... After reading your story... In case u don't know.. Ica hates appeal from MPs... It's totally useless n those MPs only entertain u for the sake of writing as well. Don't ask me how I know yah..

Simply layman meaning is... If another department boss keep pushing u to work, u will happily work accordingly to his instruction? U must understand how civil servant work...

For your scenario... Sorry man I didn't even hear before... Sounds v challenging... N for one even simpler reason, u don't declare sg tax anymore now that you are working in viet? This makes it even more tough even for LTVP... N yes ica will not be so smart to relate that u need to move to viet to work as your wife cannot come into sg...

Anyway I suppose you are appealing for her social visit entry right?

[porscheclub]

Young man. Think of your parents & i hope that you're not the only son/child? Otherwise, please sacrifice your love first. You have a long road ahead so don't mess it up now but build a strong foundation for later years. Love can come later after your career is settled. Think wisely and look far.

[stillgottheblue]

TS from your revelation, I think this is not some simple woman you know. For every of her mistakes, you said friends taught her, friends taught her.

Do you know her friend's then?

One needs to know some gangsters to work as a unlicensed agent. And these agents don't do much by collecting $700-$1,500 from the girls coming here. I mean what can they guaranteed? In a word, nothing!

Many girls got cheated by friends for paying $200 for a local guarantor. What can these local guarantor do? Nothing! Telling ICA the girl is his friend doesn't guarantee you an entry. You need to do many paperworks to qualify.

[Lost2013]

Originally Posted by ShittyAss

Yoz TS... After reading your story... In case u don't know.. Ica hates appeal from MPs... It's totally useless n those MPs only entertain u for the sake of writing as well. Don't ask me how I know yah..

Simply layman meaning is... If another department boss keep pushing u to work, u will happily work accordingly to his instruction? U must understand how civil servant work...

For your scenario... Sorry man I didn't even hear before... Sounds v challenging... N for one even simpler reason, u don't declare sg tax anymore now that you are working in viet? This makes it even more tough even for LTVP... N yes ica will not be so smart to relate that u need to move to viet to work as your wife cannot come into sg...

Anyway I suppose you are appealing for her social visit entry right?

I guess you are right.. I stopped requesting for him to appeal already. But 1 of my wife's girl was able to enter due to her husband is in the AMK GRC.. Got Him to appeal and he referred a lawyer to help re-entry. But hers was getting caught for working.. So I guess it's not as serious..

Yes, that is what I was asked to push from the Ex ICA officer, get her for a short term visit, then everything will be easier. I am planning to move back to start some business in SG next year.. Best is she can enter before that.. If not I'll use this to pay tax and all and pull her back..

Originally Posted by porscheclub

Young man. Think of your parents & i hope that you're not the only son/child? Otherwise, please sacrifice your love first. You have a long road ahead so don't mess it up now but build a strong foundation for later years. Love can come later after your career is settled. Think wisely and look far.

I have thought of my parents. That is why I choose to move to Vietnam trying to start something. How to let my parents enjoy life and feel accomplished having me as a son when I got only a ITE cert + a salaried job (+/- $2k only). I got an elder brother, but he is kind of.. slow in life.. LoL... So yeah, go outside for a year or two, try my best to earn money, give them travel around a bit.

They are going to Batam/Bintan and Malaysia, Genting all those more often now. I got bring them to places in Vietnam like Dalat.. Hoping to bring them to places like HK, TW all those soon.. I doubt I'll be able to do that with my salaried job..

Originally Posted by stillgottheblue

TS from your revelation, I think this is not some simple woman you know. For every of her mistakes, you said friends taught her, friends taught her.

Do you know her friend's then?

One needs to know some gangsters to work as a unlicensed agent. And these agents don't do much by collecting $700-$1,500 from the girls coming here. I mean what can they guaranteed? In a word, nothing!

Many girls got cheated by friends for paying $200 for a local guarantor. What can these local guarantor do? Nothing! Telling ICA the girl is his friend doesn't guarantee you an entry. You need to do many paperworks to qualify.

Yup, she is not simple. And you can call her Dang Chi, or Da Jie Da.. but everyone has their two sides.. And every job has good and bad people. I believe I have to protect my wife's way of working since I am with her.

I'm with her for nearly 3 years and I know how she work. She as an agent will provide them air tickets, a place to stay and addresses to work. She teach as much details to increase their entry chances. If they cannot enter, my wife will pay for their air tickets and the guarantor (SG). So they don't lose anything, other than 24hrs or less. Btw, guarantors do work.. Not going into details though..

She also help these girls to 7 countries, SG, MY, HK, Dubai, Shanghai, Indonesia, Angola (Yes africa.. There also got chinese population in need of these services.. LoL~) I went over with her to these countries to visit the ktv/pub/spa boss to know how the girls are protected in that country, profit sharing worth it (For the girls. We don't draw commission through drinks/shots) or not and accommodation conditions before sending any girls there.

All those bad stories are from real cheats, not agent.. There are stories like, "selling" straight up to the bosses for S$2k in Malaysia, don't care what they do to them. Girls pay finish, want to leave, cannot, must bring 1 person to take over her position.

Another is bring them overseas for "free". Put her in a house inside a forest. Then blackmail their families in VN for S$5k. Don't want give, they don't let her go back. VN family call police also no use. They will call the girl, and the girl will pick up. They will ask, if they are forcing her to work, No. Is she starved by them, No. What are you doing now? At a house doing nothing.

Many more stories..

That's why sometimes, when I'm helping her a bit, I feel like in a dilemma, this is a sex business, something I don't like, but she is helping them, in a way that they can earn much more than they are earning in VN (S$100-300/mth salaried jobs or $6-12/shot). That's why I really want to bring her back to SG so she won't be touching this business (much) anymore.. ~.~


Anyone got fruits supplier/importer contact in any country can intro...? This is my first step to bring her go back SG. T_T

[a2014]

This is getting serious:

Originally Posted by Lost2013

I guess you are right.. I stopped requesting for him to appeal already.

Yes, that is what I was asked to push from the Ex ICA officer, get her for a short term visit, then everything will be easier.

Once you get yourself into ICA record book, nothing is going to be easy. Even a simple case can become a big issue. Who in ICA will want to burden themself of letting someone with a mark on ICA record book.

Originally Posted by Lost2013

I have thought of my parents. That is why I choose to move to Vietnam trying to start something.

They are going to Batam/Bintan and Malaysia, Genting all those more often now. I got bring them to places in Vietnam like Dalat.. Hoping to bring them to places like HK, TW all those soon.. I doubt I'll be able to do that with my salaried job..

Bringing your parent to overseas trip does not equal to you love them. You are just trying to fulfill you responsibility of a son by showing it to them you love in this way, but do you know how they feel internally in them.

Originally Posted by Lost2013

Yup, she is not simple. And you can call her Dang Chi, or Da Jie Da..

Yes you just said it, "She is not so simple". To be able to go up to this stage in this trade which you should know manage by what sort of people is not simple at all, some more deal with girls from so many countries. Therefore you take care, she run into the law in sg she can go back to vn. You run into the law in sg you got no place to go. If this is to happen hopefully you can get a LTVP in vn.

The rest of the story need not to say. Every master has his/her own trick and way of doing work. She just a master of one of them.

I am not saying NO, but look like you are in a very rough sea. Someone in this forum said before and I do agree "I wonder how many pigs can actually fly".

What you are doing, I guess not many people will agree, but again we may not understand your actual situation.

You take care.

[Lost2013]

Thank you. And yes I understand on the points you've given. Just want to reply on the "Bring to Overseas not equal love" part. Everyone has their definition but I believe, all parents would want their children to be able to support themselves and not get into trouble. That is the reason for me to push to return back to SG with my wife. And to be posting this thread, to ask for advices. And to kind of get opinions from people out there on such situation.. Cause I don't think I can do it in real life.. LoL..

What I have learned from here is this situation is not easy to solve. ICA and MPs won't be of much help. Usually takes 3 years onwards then can think of entering. Try to pay tax in SG. Help my wife to quit this girls business. Do more charity.

Thank you everyone for your advises. Appreciate them! ^^

[a2014]

Originally Posted by Lost2013

Try to pay tax in SG. Help my wife to quit this girls business. Do more charity.

Tax must pay enough then can. I ever see one guy, he was a hawker married a Thai lady and have child already. She was ask to go back. The guy went to apply for pass but was rejected reason given did not earn enough.

Finally he go to Thailand and divorce the Thai girl and married go into relationship with an sg girl.

The other point, quit a business is easy, quit the mentality is not going to be something that is going to work unless otherwise. The temptation is there not necessary the same trade.

[Lost2013]

Oh yea.. Mindset.. ~.~ She is slowly accepting it is best to slow down/quit this totally. Never know how things goes out in this timeline.. Hahaha..

Noted on the enough tax too. Should be pushing for a "Go big or go home" business.. LoL.. I think that guy, he declare too low income liao. The business I sold off is now earning 6-8k profit a month, if only I were to carry on till now.. =\

[Hurricane88]

oops...interesting...what you had written...all I answered you before you posted...I am not surprised what your baxa had been doing...I just heard too much even back in 2007...anyway to each his or her own...

bad karma will hit be it this life or next life...hopefully not your next generation to pay...

oops...all above is IMHO...not to upset anyone...pls skip if you dun like to read...

[damong777]

Originally Posted by Lost2013

Oh yea.. Mindset.. ~.~ She is slowly accepting it is best to slow down/quit this totally. Never know how things goes out in this timeline.. Hahaha..

Noted on the enough tax too. Should be pushing for a "Go big or go home" business.. LoL.. I think that guy, he declare too low income liao. The business I sold off is now earning 6-8k profit a month, if only I were to carry on till now.. =\

Bro...it would be tough for next few years.

As long as you r sure what you are doing is right, just do it.

We can only give advise up to a state and the decision is still yours.

In singapore, unless you have a lot of connections other than the ways you mentioned, to speed things up is not easy. Only singapore this is not so transparent, but still exists.

[milf5554]

Cheating $500 from RWS = to stealing $$$ from the Government !

RWS is the milk cow of the Government!

Yes, she can visit Singapore again .................

But not in the next five years time ...............

She is only free to visit this country again when she is RE-BORN!

I know my words don't sounds nice to the ear, but this is the truth facts!

Don't waste you time on this issue!

SHE IS BANNED FOR LIFE!