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To put it plainly, you are not giving her enough $$. She regards you as a poor carrot that she can discard anytime since you gave her miserable amount. She's just trying her luck to squeeze more out of you before kicking you aside.
You really expect true love from her ? 38yo but thinking still so naive?
Sorry if I'm harsh. But i believe i have to be harsh to wake you up.
You try standing up to her threats and be tough with her. See what new tricks she will come up with. Use this saga as a training session to learn how to deal with vb. But learning doesnt mean you need to spend a bomb....
Lol.. I am in a daze now... We have stop talking to each other.. I am waiting for her move
Lol.. I am in a daze now... We have stop talking to each other.. I am waiting for her move
Don't worry, she will re-connect with you. I doubt she really wanted to study, she only wanted to say here and work in the KTV for money. Back home she has some other plans, if not wrong you and a few hand picked other were not in the future plan as yet.
Don't give money to buy computer, give a computer instead because you can get one simple one for ladies in less than S$800. You give money you will not see the computer as what you have encounter now.. Just curious, who support on her phone plan when she is studying here, how about her place, she stay by herself or shared with many others. I have my reason on this.
She work in KTV and result is no good so what will happen when her course and student pass ended. Online business, even buy a computer cannot manage how to manage a online business. Don't work in KTV, CAN, who is going to support her, guess several of you all, further more you say you never bed her before, that does not mean other carrot head never bed her at all. I am not trying to pour cold water on you. Work in KTV only know you as carrot head, who going to belief. Only you don't see it that's all and is a secret to her. The donation drive if not wrong has gone to some other of her hand picked donor like yourself if not wrong. Guess if successful how much donation fund she will receive certainly don't need to work in KTV.
Having seen this environment happened before. Do take care. Sorry for calling you a carrot head but carrot head are not stupid either.
Your details development is quite clear as you have stated, it seem to change any other day as you keep asking advise. The money she ask is not too large amount but will sooner ask for 5 digit figure. Haven't tell you back home problem, brother sister problem need money yet. Haven't say her long term plan and how much yet.
I guess you have some spare money to invest, do wait patiently, let see what happen next, just don't panic, don't talk to you is just some high handed tactic to deal with you.
Lol.. I am in a daze now... We have stop talking to each other.. I am waiting for her move
Maybe you can give me her number, I will go to her workplace and test her on your behalf. If she is true to you she will stick to you or else she will dump you for me or some other guys.
Just like my vb, asking me for monthly allowance. I told i will consider.now tell me want to go factory and work, i tell her is a good idea, rather u doing nothing at home. But i dunno whether she really going to work in factory, becos vb words changes everyday, hear until i sian. No choice, is their cultures.
Just like my vb, asking me for monthly allowance. I told i will consider.now tell me want to go factory and work, i tell her is a good idea, rather u doing nothing at home
This is a better option. Do your calculations first. As least in the factory you don't gain to face many cheongster running around her day in day out.
Look for those job that is either behind counter or factory or warehouse because the are close environment with security. Don't look for job that they need to walk around to serve customers.
You will see the difference. How a person behave and how a person think will depend on the environment your place the person in. Not necessary that you can change them 100% but at least you are in control.
Why is it that whenever viet spouses are discussed, it is forever linked to WL and vice trade? Most Sgp man still allow their viet spouse to ply the vice trade after marriage? If these Sgp man allow that, then they should be ashamed of themselves. Your viet spouse can be a WL before marriage, but if she is still a WL or mamasan after marriage, then its a big disgrace. That's why most people look down on the viets and their Sgp husbands. Please, for goodness sake, have some pride.
Correct me if im wrong but according to your own posts on vietnam thread 1 back in 2003-4 ish werent your running a online prostitution ring "charlies Angels" and your wife or future wife was deliver your girls to samsters, which btw was from feedback to me a case of over promising girls and under delivering...look everyone has a right to earn a living even if its in vice, i dont look down on OKT, i have a issue with former OKT who then 10yrs down the track lie about their past.
Last edited by mutantchicken; 09-11-2014 at 01:09 AM.
My VB yesterday pissed off with me because i keep on not trusting her as she does not tell me the truth..
The story is like this..
(1) She supposed to use my money to buy an laptop. Now she want to quit her job in the bar and start an online clothing store. And her school result is no good.
(2) I find someone to help me to translate this..
Những ǵ em đă thích em sẽ giữ nó rất chặt.... Nhưng cái ǵ em đă không c̣n muốn nữa em sẽ vứt nó đi rất tàn nhẫn rất lạnh lùng và em là thế là như vậy không phải em thích người khác mà chưa có ai hiểu được em e giông như một giọt nước vậy rễ tan rễ biến mất nhưng ngta mang lại cho em những ǵ e trả lại hơn cả thế .... Cả yêu thương /-showlove/-showlove/-showlove/-showlove Lẫn nỗi đau
I am not sure if the above translate below is correct.
Whatever he love he keep. Whatever matter, he does not matter. He do not care about me not because he does not love me. Is because he have not find another girl friend.. HeartBroken..
(3) I use the above translation confronted her.. I told her I am going drinking but she say she also go drinking with her friend and pissed off..
I really do not know what to do.. Please advise bro..
this guy wont see the light or accept what everyone else is telling him...anyway here is that translation
những ǵ em đă thích em sẽ giữ nó rất chặt.... Nhưng cái ǵ em đă không c̣n muốn nữa em sẽ vứt nó đi rất tàn nhẫn rất lạnh lùng và em là thế là như vậy không phải em thích người khác mà chưa có ai hiểu được em e giông như một giọt nước vậy rễ tan rễ biến mất nhưng ngta mang lại cho em những ǵ e trả lại hơn cả thế .... Cả yêu thương /-showlove/-showlove/-showlove/-showlove Lẫn nỗi đau
anything she already likes she will keep close to her, anything she doesnt want she will throw away.. idnore and be cold towards...she is that way not because she likes someone else, but because people do not yet understand her...(she is like a drop of water in the sea or maybe a tear drop...not to clear)..but anyone who give her something she will return in a greater amount.. this is the standard definition of vietnamese love.
I will tell a few stories...i know a uni grad quite pretty 23..works for a korean company in d7 esrns about 300usd a month, when she was younger she met a korean expat earning 3000usd a month, when he wanted to court her he bought her a bike, a iphone and rented an apartment for her and him, after he got her he started ignoring her, not appreciating her cooking for him etc, instead he said that all he had to do was provide an allowance for her and that was it, anything else was up to him, ie money no love. This girl cannot see how her actions ie accpting his purchase of her "love" makes him view her as nothing better than a chattel...as he prob knows she can be purchased by someone else for a greater amount so why overinvest himself. Instead this girl now has a list of demands.she doenst want to date, she wanst to get married quick, all the guy has to have is a income of greater than 3k usd, have an apartment in PMH, and be prepared to take her shopping as a sign of his love and commitment for her. This girl is attractive enough that via wechat she has plenty of foreigners willing to take her to cafe and disco due to her english ability and "good" girl uni grad status, but im faily certain that after paying for her entertainment they go home empty handed.
I also met today a cute 19yr old, she is saigon born and raised, her fathers family lives in d3, but im pretty certain she comes from a broken home and so has been independent since young age. I met her in a cafe om where she give me a bbbj and i groped her pussy and tits for 110k dong ie 7 sing dollars.
She recent came back from singapre working in the cafe/coffee shops in GL 13, 23 etc, she todl me her expenses are 1200 for the airticket and paper work, 600 for accomodation, and she saved at teh end of the month 1000, so that makes her monthly earnings about 3000, now she told me her charge rates was 150-200dolalrs for over nite, she will also ask for lucky money (tips) if tehre is now fucking, so u can imagine taht she will get a ST one a day in that month, she tells guys she is a student in vn, she is young slim, tho without a ideal face as she has a flattish nose but in teh end with makeup i would prob give her a 7. She tod, me its still quite easy to make money, but singy men are not so easily tricked as before, esp with dark guys( she forst said afro americans then later she said indians) who fuck and run who sometimes steal their money, im assuming this is stories she heard rather than her own experiences..she said she doenst want to fuck in vn as the most she will get is 500-700k a shot ( which is higher than what i pay, as i access teh local scene where a similar girl in looks/age will cost me 300-500k) so it makes no sense to fuck here in vn when she can get 4-5 times as much in sing, further here in vn she gets picked up from work by relatives, she says she tells her family she goes to sing to work as a waitress, and here in vn, she works in a cafe and does only massage ( not sure if that means the family knows she does bbbj which is ok, just as long as she doenst use her vagina)
I also know anotehr girl 20yrs prob a 8, met ehr in a brothel cost 500+300k to fuck, she doesnt work just hangs around teh shop, but always going to singapore and/thailand...its with certainty she has a foreign boyfriend supporting her, i made it known i wnated to fuck her..she rejected me saying she only hangs arpound there she doenst work, until one day either she was bored or needed money she called me over i fucked her i tested her and it was possible to even go bareback, cost 500k, im sure she gets 500usd or more as a mpnthly allowance....
anway this is the world these girls comes from...yes when guys tell stories how they got FOC fucks and only paid for meals etc, firstly need to ask, what does the girl look like and how old she is, the older the plainer the girl is the more likely she is looking for "love" ie she is willing long line fish, the next question is The "she never asks me for anything"..well she wouldnt have to ask if the guy already willingly offer...end of the day the take home mesage is that YES all women want love, but the definition of love and the standard of proof required by viet women is different from what is accepted in other countries, it would take a bit more materialism to prove that you are committed to a viet woman beofre she would "love" you...i dont know abt others but i wouldnt have that much patience and i have other options and better things to do than prove myself to a barely educated girl with no real value to my life just because she has decent looks when she is young. EVERYTHING especially what is posted here should be taken with LARGE amounts of salt especially form vb mouths or supposed seniors and their success stories.
Last edited by mutantchicken; 09-11-2014 at 01:16 AM.
Just like my vb, asking me for monthly allowance. I told i will consider.now tell me want to go factory and work, i tell her is a good idea, rather u doing nothing at home. But i dunno whether she really going to work in factory, becos vb words changes everyday, hear until i sian. No choice, is their cultures.
To be with them, they'll expect something in return. It's only fair whether you think in terms of potential wife or WL.
Don't worry, she will re-connect with you. I doubt she really wanted to study, she only wanted to say here and work in the KTV for money. Back home she has some other plans, if not wrong you and a few hand picked other were not in the future plan as yet.
Don't give money to buy computer, give a computer instead because you can get one simple one for ladies in less than S$800. You give money you will not see the computer as what you have encounter now.. Just curious, who support on her phone plan when she is studying here, how about her place, she stay by herself or shared with many others. I have my reason on this.
She work in KTV and result is no good so what will happen when her course and student pass ended. Online business, even buy a computer cannot manage how to manage a online business. Don't work in KTV, CAN, who is going to support her, guess several of you all, further more you say you never bed her before, that does not mean other carrot head never bed her at all. I am not trying to pour cold water on you. Work in KTV only know you as carrot head, who going to belief. Only you don't see it that's all and is a secret to her. The donation drive if not wrong has gone to some other of her hand picked donor like yourself if not wrong. Guess if successful how much donation fund she will receive certainly don't need to work in KTV.
Having seen this environment happened before. Do take care. Sorry for calling you a carrot head but carrot head are not stupid either.
Your details development is quite clear as you have stated, it seem to change any other day as you keep asking advise. The money she ask is not too large amount but will sooner ask for 5 digit figure. Haven't tell you back home problem, brother sister problem need money yet. Haven't say her long term plan and how much yet.
I guess you have some spare money to invest, do wait patiently, let see what happen next, just don't panic, don't talk to you is just some high handed tactic to deal with you.
No lar.. I am not going to give her any more money after this.. Most probably buy her stuff or treat her food.. See how it goes.. Whatever sad story she give, i will become cold hearted unless only less than 500 dollars..
this guy wont see the light or accept what everyone else is telling him...anyway here is that translation
những ǵ em đă thích em sẽ giữ nó rất chặt.... Nhưng cái ǵ em đă không c̣n muốn nữa em sẽ vứt nó đi rất tàn nhẫn rất lạnh lùng và em là thế là như vậy không phải em thích người khác mà chưa có ai hiểu được em e giông như một giọt nước vậy rễ tan rễ biến mất nhưng ngta mang lại cho em những ǵ e trả lại hơn cả thế .... Cả yêu thương /-showlove/-showlove/-showlove/-showlove Lẫn nỗi đau
anything she already likes she will keep close to her, anything she doesnt want she will throw away.. idnore and be cold towards...she is that way not because she likes someone else, but because people do not yet understand her...(she is like a drop of water in the sea or maybe a tear drop...not to clear)..but anyone who give her something she will return in a greater amount.. this is the standard definition of vietnamese love.
I will tell a few stories...i know a uni grad quite pretty 23..works for a korean company in d7 esrns about 300usd a month, when she was younger she met a korean expat earning 3000usd a month, when he wanted to court her he bought her a bike, a iphone and rented an apartment for her and him, after he got her he started ignoring her, not appreciating her cooking for him etc, instead he said that all he had to do was provide an allowance for her and that was it, anything else was up to him, ie money no love. This girl cannot see how her actions ie accpting his purchase of her "love" makes him view her as nothing better than a chattel...as he prob knows she can be purchased by someone else for a greater amount so why overinvest himself. Instead this girl now has a list of demands.she doenst want to date, she wanst to get married quick, all the guy has to have is a income of greater than 3k usd, have an apartment in PMH, and be prepared to take her shopping as a sign of his love and commitment for her. This girl is attractive enough that via wechat she has plenty of foreigners willing to take her to cafe and disco due to her english ability and "good" girl uni grad status, but im faily certain that after paying for her entertainment they go home empty handed.
I also met today a cute 19yr old, she is saigon born and raised, her fathers family lives in d3, but im pretty certain she comes from a broken home and so has been independent since young age. I met her in a cafe om where she give me a bbbj and i groped her pussy and tits for 110k dong ie 7 sing dollars.
She recent came back from singapre working in the cafe/coffee shops in GL 13, 23 etc, she todl me her expenses are 1200 for the airticket and paper work, 600 for accomodation, and she saved at teh end of the month 1000, so that makes her monthly earnings about 3000, now she told me her charge rates was 150-200dolalrs for over nite, she will also ask for lucky money (tips) if tehre is now fucking, so u can imagine taht she will get a ST one a day in that month, she tells guys she is a student in vn, she is young slim, tho without a ideal face as she has a flattish nose but in teh end with makeup i would prob give her a 7. She tod, me its still quite easy to make money, but singy men are not so easily tricked as before, esp with dark guys( she forst said afro americans then later she said indians) who fuck and run who sometimes steal their money, im assuming this is stories she heard rather than her own experiences..she said she doenst want to fuck in vn as the most she will get is 500-700k a shot ( which is higher than what i pay, as i access teh local scene where a similar girl in looks/age will cost me 300-500k) so it makes no sense to fuck here in vn when she can get 4-5 times as much in sing, further here in vn she gets picked up from work by relatives, she says she tells her family she goes to sing to work as a waitress, and here in vn, she works in a cafe and does only massage ( not sure if that means the family knows she does bbbj which is ok, just as long as she doenst use her vagina)
I also know anotehr girl 20yrs prob a 8, met ehr in a brothel cost 500+300k to fuck, she doesnt work just hangs around teh shop, but always going to singapore and/thailand...its with certainty she has a foreign boyfriend supporting her, i made it known i wnated to fuck her..she rejected me saying she only hangs arpound there she doenst work, until one day either she was bored or needed money she called me over i fucked her i tested her and it was possible to even go bareback, cost 500k, im sure she gets 500usd or more as a mpnthly allowance....
anway this is the world these girls comes from...yes when guys tell stories how they got FOC fucks and only paid for meals etc, firstly need to ask, what does the girl look like and how old she is, the older the plainer the girl is the more likely she is looking for "love" ie she is willing long line fish, the next question is The "she never asks me for anything"..well she wouldnt have to ask if the guy already willingly offer...end of the day the take home mesage is that YES all women want love, but the definition of love and the standard of proof required by viet women is different from what is accepted in other countries, it would take a bit more materialism to prove that you are committed to a viet woman beofre she would "love" you...i dont know abt others but i wouldnt have that much patience and i have other options and better things to do than prove myself to a barely educated girl with no real value to my life just because she has decent looks when she is young. EVERYTHING especially what is posted here should be taken with LARGE amounts of salt especially form vb mouths or supposed seniors and their success stories.
No lar.. I am not going to give her any more money after this.. Most probably buy her stuff or treat her food.. See how it goes.. Whatever sad story she give, i will become cold hearted unless only less than 500 dollars..
No need to be so cold hearted. If you really have some liking of her and don't mind supporting her once in a while, maybe you want to consider some small allowance for her every month, just like small kids I give some money to buy sweet type. Small allowance mean small not too big to fill a small little purse.
If half way down the road you decide to bed her since you have spend so much with no return then do take care. Don't do live firing, do put on helmet to protect your head before she said bingo you hit jackpot.
I said this because between your explanation there are a lot of unanswered areas and looks like you are not ready in case for the worst yet. This is provided you have the money and stamina. Do sometime look outside the window, sometime you may get better deals.
The rest you have to take care of it and see the new development.
No need to be so cold hearted. If you really have some liking of her and don't mind supporting her once in a while, maybe you want to consider some small allowance for her every month, just like small kids I give some money to buy sweet type. Small allowance mean small not too big to fill a small little purse.
If half way down the road you decide to bed her since you have spend so much with no return then do take care. Don't do live firing, do put on helmet to protect your head before she said bingo you hit jackpot.
haha...fantastic advice...give her small allowance monthly and let her bonked by others....great advice...haha....
so what if hit jackpot...you mean she will force you to marry her...dun be naive...do you know that abortion is so cheap and common in Vn...also there are so many single mother be it married or unmarried in Vn...
if any newbies will to listen to your advice then this is what VBs are exploiting and caling sinkee men soft hearted idiots...
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08-11-2014, 04:17 PM
Re: Understanding Vietnamese Life Partner
