Walking into a KC trap..?

[kid6425]

Some background, started to chiong 2 years ago only when covid re-open GL. I was a virgin back then, first time was some dirty massage place to a vietbu in 30s..

After that go to fish tanks, at first was very paranoid for STDs everytime , will request for cap BJ always and no kissing even if the girl dun mind. Will go dsc for check up every 6 months or so, back then I chiong at most once a month after pay day...

Fast forward to few months ago, due to some personal and work stress, I began visit GL every week once even twice. I avoid those $60 house, found a $100 Thai house with good quality girls..

Recently I keep visiting a same girl (3-4 times) and I even gotten her line at the last visit. I haven’t message her but she told me she next week one week no work., maybe is hinting me to jio her? Idk…..

This siambu reminds me of my crush in sch last time (I loser liked a girl one sided for 3-4 years) .. I’m not sure should I just try to jio her out and make her my “girlfriend”…
I know it probably won’t end well… she may not even reply me line… but idk… need some advices from bros here

[Rubbaking]

Some background, started to chiong 2 years ago only when covid re-open GL. I was a virgin back then, first time was some dirty massage place to a vietbu in 30s..

After that go to fish tanks, at first was very paranoid for STDs everytime , will request for cap BJ always and no kissing even if the girl dun mind. Will go dsc for check up every 6 months or so, back then I chiong at most once a month after pay day...

Fast forward to few months ago, due to some personal and work stress, I began visit GL every week once even twice. I avoid those $60 house, found a $100 Thai house with good quality girls..

Recently I keep visiting a same girl (3-4 times) and I even gotten her line at the last visit. I haven’t message her but she told me she next week one week no work., maybe is hinting me to jio her? Idk…..

This siambu reminds me of my crush in sch last time (I loser liked a girl one sided for 3-4 years) .. I’m not sure should I just try to jio her out and make her my “girlfriend”…
I know it probably won’t end well… she may not even reply me line… but idk… need some advices from bros here

Bro, post at matters of heart better.

[HalimahYakult]

Some background, started to chiong 2 years ago only when covid re-open GL. I was a virgin back then, first time was some dirty massage place to a vietbu in 30s..

After that go to fish tanks, at first was very paranoid for STDs everytime , will request for cap BJ always and no kissing even if the girl dun mind. Will go dsc for check up every 6 months or so, back then I chiong at most once a month after pay day...

Fast forward to few months ago, due to some personal and work stress, I began visit GL every week once even twice. I avoid those $60 house, found a $100 Thai house with good quality girls..

Recently I keep visiting a same girl (3-4 times) and I even gotten her line at the last visit. I haven’t message her but she told me she next week one week no work., maybe is hinting me to jio her? Idk…..

This siambu reminds me of my crush in sch last time (I loser liked a girl one sided for 3-4 years) .. I’m not sure should I just try to jio her out and make her my “girlfriend”…
I know it probably won’t end well… she may not even reply me line… but idk… need some advices from bros here

Bro your savings have at least $500k? If don't have, one word for you. Run.

It will get draining, it will get tired. There will be lots of misunderstanding and arguments. Best part if you can't speak Thai, don't even bother to get the girl to understand you.

But some life lessons have to bang wall then will learn so you decide.

[MichaelWinn]

Some background, started to chiong 2 years ago only when covid re-open GL. I was a virgin back then, first time was some dirty massage place to a vietbu in 30s..

After that go to fish tanks, at first was very paranoid for STDs everytime , will request for cap BJ always and no kissing even if the girl dun mind. Will go dsc for check up every 6 months or so, back then I chiong at most once a month after pay day...

Fast forward to few months ago, due to some personal and work stress, I began visit GL every week once even twice. I avoid those $60 house, found a $100 Thai house with good quality girls..

Recently I keep visiting a same girl (3-4 times) and I even gotten her line at the last visit. I haven’t message her but she told me she next week one week no work., maybe is hinting me to jio her? Idk…..

This siambu reminds me of my crush in sch last time (I loser liked a girl one sided for 3-4 years) .. I’m not sure should I just try to jio her out and make her my “girlfriend”…
I know it probably won’t end well… she may not even reply me line… but idk… need some advices from bros here

Thai house girls on off day only allowed to go out maximum 4 hours. And if kena caught with customer outside the whole house may be suspended for few months...if want more kc or more shopping trips suggest you try those roadside viet fls...no house rules to follow:D

[kid6425]

Thai house girls on off day only allowed to go out maximum 4 hours. And if kena caught with customer outside the whole house may be suspended for few months...if want more kc or more shopping trips suggest you try those roadside viet fls...no house rules to follow:D

?
First time heard of this …
Means cannot even ask the girl out eat mokata?

[10003508]

?
First time heard of this …
Means cannot even ask the girl out eat mokata?

Varies from house to house. The ones I am familiar with limit it to about 7 hours.

OKT often try to limit the time they go out to within office hours, or make the time allowed short so that is difficult for them to meet customers outside.

But i hear got some houses the OKT more bochup, allow the WL to go out for the whole day.

[naan1974]

TS, ideally you should learn from history if you can.
Then again, human always learn from their own mistakes.
Afterall yolo. Be prepare because 99.9% you will be burn badly at both ends, finanically and emotionally. Be prepare for the emotional roller coaster of yr life. Remember these gals gave up their integrity and dignity for money so money defintely come before you or love.
BTW, not sure abt thai hse rules, some PRC house allow gals to be out till midnight, even till 2am. You can check with her directly.

[Geylangwander3]

Some background, started to chiong 2 years ago only when covid re-open GL. I was a virgin back then, first time was some dirty massage place to a vietbu in 30s..

After that go to fish tanks, at first was very paranoid for STDs everytime , will request for cap BJ always and no kissing even if the girl dun mind. Will go dsc for check up every 6 months or so, back then I chiong at most once a month after pay day...

Fast forward to few months ago, due to some personal and work stress, I began visit GL every week once even twice. I avoid those $60 house, found a $100 Thai house with good quality girls..

Recently I keep visiting a same girl (3-4 times) and I even gotten her line at the last visit. I haven’t message her but she told me she next week one week no work., maybe is hinting me to jio her? Idk…..

This siambu reminds me of my crush in sch last time (I loser liked a girl one sided for 3-4 years) .. I’m not sure should I just try to jio her out and make her my “girlfriend”…
I know it probably won’t end well… she may not even reply me line… but idk… need some advices from bros here

Just go out and have fun lah, young only once. Just dont spend money can liao.

Spend on FOOD is OK
Things like movie ticket, sentosa park ticket and all this type of normal date stuff are OK

But if she want you buy gift for her, or start telling you her friend buy ring or LV handbag or iphone or whatever expensive shit then its time to say bye bye

[MattHelm]

You can go but dont keep money more than the limit you can throw on her and forget
This is my personal experience, no use of wasting money later they will forget or ignore you once they leave singapore or got another boyfriend
Don’t carry card to fall in trap to buy costly things for her like jewellery or premium shoes or just tell my wife or parents check my bank statement and if caught they will kill me.
Thanks
Some background, started to chiong 2 years ago only when covid re-open GL. I was a virgin back then, first time was some dirty massage place to a vietbu in 30s..

After that go to fish tanks, at first was very paranoid for STDs everytime , will request for cap BJ always and no kissing even if the girl dun mind. Will go dsc for check up every 6 months or so, back then I chiong at most once a month after pay day...

Fast forward to few months ago, due to some personal and work stress, I began visit GL every week once even twice. I avoid those $60 house, found a $100 Thai house with good quality girls..

Recently I keep visiting a same girl (3-4 times) and I even gotten her line at the last visit. I haven’t message her but she told me she next week one week no work., maybe is hinting me to jio her? Idk…..

This siambu reminds me of my crush in sch last time (I loser liked a girl one sided for 3-4 years) .. I’m not sure should I just try to jio her out and make her my “girlfriend”…
I know it probably won’t end well… she may not even reply me line… but idk… need some advices from bros here

[tauntslide]

Small gifts is fine. anything that you would think twice before buying for yourself or your family, proceed with extra care.

[Ninja_Assassin]

TS...... come out to play must abide by the cheongsters rule.

FIND, FUCK & FORGET

If you cannot follow this rule..... better stop this hobby.

[Rubbaking]

TS...... come out to play must abide by the cheongsters rule.

FIND, FUCK & FORGET

If you cannot follow this rule..... better stop this hobby.

Well said, or perhaps find fuck forget or for life.

[galaxyass]

If you want to play this KC thing, you need to know your own level and your opponent level.... if she is expert level... chances are you will perish.... then again, with some KC involved, it does enhance the overall experience....

Basically, you must know when to pull out so that both party will have minimum damage.... i say both party is because the girl is also putting her fair share of effort in the game..

[kid6425]

Went to find the WL again.. think I’m really in love

[Chrisk456]

Went to find the WL again.. think I’m really in love

Bro let me tell you something. If you are extremely rich with at least 200k++ in bank ignore us otherwise listen. High chance is that you are really in a KC trap. Dont get me wrong, it's okay to feel as it would add some kind of spice while in deed. But the girl say what you want to hear for the customer to come back especially if your girl got queue you must have a hint already. She does and say the same thing to all of you. She will tell you she likes you, she misses you, you're different, gives you random kisses and hugs, it felt like the real thing but its not. Youre making her richer and richer, by the end of her contract what are the chances she will introduce you to her parents or her kids. They are here not to get boyfriend but to earn money.

[Rubbaking]

If you want to play this KC thing, you need to know your own level and your opponent level.... if she is expert level... chances are you will perish.... then again, with some KC involved, it does enhance the overall experience....

Basically, you must know when to pull out so that both party will have minimum damage.... i say both party is because the girl is also putting her fair share of effort in the game..

Agreed to no free lunch in this world

[Rubbaking]

Went to find the WL again.. think I’m really in love

Try up her for 1000 times and test your heart again. I literally mean 1000 times.

[galaxyass]

Try up her for 1000 times and test your heart again. I literally mean 1000 times.
This is one of the best way....... i think you already get bored before you reach 200 counts......😄😄😄

[naan1974]

Went to find the WL again.. think I’m really in love

I wouldnt hv say this prior to this post of yr declaration.
But since you're in love, be prepare and Go for it .
Just hope yr will have enough of her within her tenure.
As long as she doesnt leave SG with yr heart, take this
As a sweet chapter of yr in life. Everything comes with a price tho .... Yolo !

[Chrisk456]

I wouldnt hv say this prior to this post of yr declaration.
But since you're in love, be prepare and Go for it .
Just hope yr will have enough of her within her tenure.
As long as she doesnt leave SG with yr heart, take this
As a sweet chapter of yr in life. Everything comes with a price tho .... Yolo !

Or the darkest chapter in bros life wasting time in queue, given all the money to one WL and leaving a hole in bros heart and bros bank account. Much worse if the hole is in bros joint account with wife.

[blahzzz]

If you want to play this KC thing, you need to know your own level and your opponent level.... if she is expert level... chances are you will perish.... then again, with some KC involved, it does enhance the overall experience....

Basically, you must know when to pull out so that both party will have minimum damage.... i say both party is because the girl is also putting her fair share of effort in the game..

Well said bro. Hope TS heed this advice.. $ is one thing. Mental stress is another thing. It can break u down until u can’t make a sane decision

[lucidlucifer]

Just yolo and go with the flow. If she truly likes u, she will not want u to buy branded goods for her, all she wants is your time

[Rubbaking]

Just yolo and go with the flow. If she truly likes u, she will not want u to buy branded goods for her, all she wants is your time

Attest to this, but eventually the second part of heartache comes which is you would want her to stop working in such environment and you need to support her with an amount she think it is enough. She may not ask for luxury goods but the amount she needs surpassed easily too. We all know what will happen when we fall into the kc trap but yet we still fall for it because these wls possessed attributes which we can hardly get from local girls.

[Chrisk456]

Attest to this, but eventually the second part of heartache comes which is you would want her to stop working in such environment and you need to support her with an amount she think it is enough. She may not ask for luxury goods but the amount she needs surpassed easily too. We all know what will happen when we fall into the kc trap but yet we still fall for it because these wls possessed attributes which we can hardly get from local girls.

Tough one. Bad thing she can't give up her life easily back at home especially after the WL has gone through her life so there are more things the TS has to give up not to mention if the latter is married here.

[galaxyass]

Just enjoy the moment with her now.... in the long run there is no finishing line... trust me...������
She wont give up her life back home, and back home, she have her own bf... we are just one of her overseas collections.
If you are able to see her social account, what she tell you and what she is actually doing is totally different.... their sweet talk is even sweeter den us....

[Newbieshag]

Went to find the WL again.. think I’m really in love

Bro , is this 一相情愿 or both ways ? Else like other bros said moved on and visit more WL and maybe you will find one gem.

[galaxyass]

Its hard to move on once the WL set the KC trap... you will keep finding excuse for her even though she cheat on you... this is how powerful the trap is....

[John0721]

找妹子，不怕留精，只怕留情

[galaxyass]

找妹子，不怕留精，只怕留情
Totally agree.... but this kinda of stuff is beyond our control... im surd many of us kena before...😁😁😁

[bradpitt968]

Some background, started to chiong 2 years ago only when covid re-open GL. I was a virgin back then, first time was some dirty massage place to a vietbu in 30s..

After that go to fish tanks, at first was very paranoid for STDs everytime , will request for cap BJ always and no kissing even if the girl dun mind. Will go dsc for check up every 6 months or so, back then I chiong at most once a month after pay day...

Fast forward to few months ago, due to some personal and work stress, I began visit GL every week once even twice. I avoid those $60 house, found a $100 Thai house with good quality girls..

Recently I keep visiting a same girl (3-4 times) and I even gotten her line at the last visit. I haven’t message her but she told me she next week one week no work., maybe is hinting me to jio her? Idk…..

This siambu reminds me of my crush in sch last time (I loser liked a girl one sided for 3-4 years) .. I’m not sure should I just try to jio her out and make her my “girlfriend”…
I know it probably won’t end well… she may not even reply me line… but idk… need some advices from bros here

I would assume that you are banging her raw already. Probably shoot inside ther mouth and even inside her pussy already.

If you are talking about being together with this gal, that is where all the boring stuff of life will come into play. How to support her? Support her family? Plus all the family shit and all the hassles of life will all come together. That is basically what the "real life" is.

But end of the day, if you have enough money, then all this can be easily taken care of.

[GREED]

I also struggled to get out of a KC trap. I always reminded myself, WL and ourselves have respective agenda, seller to earn/ milk/ cheat more money, buyer to get a sense of fulfilment either through release or companionship. She is definitely not a girl who we can proudly introduce her to our family or circle of friends.

Im lucky that my WL wasn't smart enough and played her cards wrong which resulted in pisses me off, emotionally i withdraw from her game but physically still F her when i have the urge. Whenever i visit her is just to kill time and F her. And to add on what kind of silly topics does TS have to converse with the WL, are you seriously that concern about her family back in hometown, her farm animals falling sick or bitching about their house mates or you are so keen to know her wishlist from shops in orchard or MBS.

[Darge]

If TS have $$$ to burn as a big carrot head, go ahead be a happy victim.

[Chrisk456]

These girls come here not to get boyfriend but to earn money. TS is talking about a fantasy that doesn't even exist and he even affirms his feelings for the WL as if the feeling are mutual for both of them. Remember when WL and customer enter the room the dream starts to come true, you have an instant sex and girlfriend. Everything the WL tell and say are all BS just to make you fall in love with them and milk more money. Although there are extremely rare cases of romance stories which I think would involve big $$$ and commitment from the customer but it doesn't end well especially when WL already return to home country.

[Rubbaking]

These girls come here not to get boyfriend but to earn money. TS is talking about a fantasy that doesn't even exist and he even affirms his feelings for the WL as if the feeling are mutual for both of them. Remember when WL and customer enter the room the dream starts to come true, you have an instant sex and girlfriend. Everything the WL tell and say are all BS just to make you fall in love with them and milk more money. Although there are extremely rare cases of romance stories which I think would involve big $$$ and commitment from the customer but it doesn't end well especially when WL already return to home country.

Can’t agree more. Personal experience, paid big bucks when if comes to gifts and monthly stipend to wl and she went back. Tried to visit once every month or two months but eventually wl went off with another rich guy or back to flesh trade. Really no point unless you can visit monthly and for longer period. If satisfied with temporary fantasy and gf for a short while, then prepare to take it as if you are buying a sure losing stock.

[Chrisk456]

Can’t agree more. Personal experience, paid big bucks when if comes to gifts and monthly stipend to wl and she went back. Tried to visit once every month or two months but eventually wl went off with another rich guy or back to flesh trade. Really no point unless you can visit monthly and for longer period. If satisfied with temporary fantasy and gf for a short while, then prepare to take it as if you are buying a sure losing stock.

That's a good rare thing actually. The bad thing is right now WL is trying to milk more money with customers esp when she's already going back in a month or two. The lies will grow thicker and the trap will be deeper. And at the end the chances are when she return home country she doesn't care anymore she blocks everyone and doesn't reply at all. She doesn't want to be singaporean, she doesn't want to leave her family esp if she have a kid back home, after a year or two of getting fvcked would you think she would think to settle overseas, AGAIN (besides she can't go back on LTVP)? Unless someone will give up life here in Singapore, sell all assets, divorce with wife (if married) and move to WL country only to find out she might have a younger boyfriend which she likes. Doesn't matter if not rich or just a typical guy from her country because she milked her customers long enough while working here in SG. Mark these words.

[galaxyass]

End of the day, just enjoy while it last.... WL will put on a mask to entertain you and you will also put on a mask to entertain her back... this is what make the experience more real.... like what bro mention here, its very rare for a relationshio to work out and the feeling for both party is mutual. It does happen but maybe 2% chance.... you have a losing chance of l98% if you decide place your bet.... i know its a hard and painful decision to make, i wish you the best of luck

[Chrisk456]

End of the day, just enjoy while it last.... WL will put on a mask to entertain you and you will also put on a mask to entertain her back... this is what make the experience more real.... like what bro mention here, its very rare for a relationshio to work out and the feeling for both party is mutual. It does happen but maybe 2% chance.... you have a losing chance of l98% if you decide place your bet.... i know its a hard and painful decision to make, i wish you the best of luck

Yes. Always remember that Geylang was made for prostitution/sexual services ONLY. Even their face and body sometimes man-made and always wear make up so you wont know her true looks even. If you want a girlfriend or a companion try some dating apps (i have lots of friends having successful relationship here) or go on clubs, wear decent, get drunk and by 2 AM you can take home random women. Imagine paying thousands of $$$ just to end up getting blocked by WL and forgotten when she return home. It's also better the TS go Marina Bay or Orchard on a Sunday afternoon, find some burmese/filipina chio maids on day-off and there at least the chances differ by 50% and not getting fvcked by horny men.

[naan1974]

It does happen but maybe 2% chance....

2% is way too extravagant a fantasy. In my 25 years of GL expenditure,
there is only 1 fairytale which i cant deny because i know the couple personally.
If given there are 150 WLs (very conservative) in GL at full capacity
and for a full tenure 2 years (extremely optimistic) there would hv
been a turnover of at least 1800 Wls. 1 out 1800 is 0.05% yah

[Chrisk456]

2% is way too extravagant a fantasy. In my 25 years of GL expenditure,
there is only 1 fairytale which i cant deny because i know the couple personally.
If given there are 150 WLs (very conservative) in GL at full capacity
and for a full tenure 2 years (extremely optimistic) there would hv
been a turnover of at least 1800 Wls. 1 out 1800 is 0.05% yah

Thanks for the statistics bro. Yet still makes me sad that some bros still stick to their feelings only to end up a very very impossible 0.05% chance of success.

[kid6425]

Up for discussion

[Chrisk456]

Up for discussion

Can you mind telling us what happened to you bro? You already moved on or still cannot tahan with the same WL?

To anyone feeling trapped in the KC game. This month and next month many WLs will return already. If you guys lost the game please go back to this thread and share your lessons for our future reference. I would also be happy to accompany you for a drink and find some real girl. Ill be your wingman, happy to help.

[Rock999]

Dare dare ask her go out then dare dare ask her belanja you makan see she love you or not. So easy

[Chrisk456]

Dare dare ask her go out then dare dare ask her belanja you makan see she love you or not. So easy

Not easy to judge just because a WL belanja you some $20 pad thai. She still has profits if some bro visiting the same WL 3-4 times a week with multiple session.

Given also that TS here is married. Thats plain cheating and these WLs wouldn't risk the next chapter of their lives with a cheater when the same reason most of them are single moms working here in GL is because of the need of raising their kids alone with enough money..

[galaxyass]

Birds of the same feathers flock together, most of us might be cheaters with gf or wife, however most WLs also have bf or husband back in their home.... anyway as long as both are happy for that moment is ok... you dont have to own her and she dont have to own you... its free for all..... nothing is free in this world.... both party need to contribute either time or money to make it work...

[vanxy]

Can you mind telling us what happened to you bro? You already moved on or still cannot tahan with the same WL?

To anyone feeling trapped in the KC game. This month and next month many WLs will return already. If you guys lost the game please go back to this thread and share your lessons for our future reference. I would also be happy to accompany you for a drink and find some real girl. Ill be your wingman, happy to help.

I need help here too man I kind of fell in love accidentally

[walao]

2% is way too extravagant a fantasy. In my 25 years of GL expenditure,
there is only 1 fairytale which i cant deny because i know the couple personally.
If given there are 150 WLs (very conservative) in GL at full capacity
and for a full tenure 2 years (extremely optimistic) there would hv
been a turnover of at least 1800 Wls. 1 out 1800 is 0.05% yah

I have seen 4..personal food friends. One cou0le as long as 15 yrs still goung strong. Kids in elite sch somemore...u will never know.

Walao

[Darge]

I need help here too man I kind of fell in love accidentally

Get yourself a normal girl

[Chrisk456]

Get yourself a normal girl

Agree. Can find any girl at work, if none then find a cashier girl or a waitress and just talk. Those should be a walk in the park. These WLs/FLs will make everyone fall in love for money or have you walk into their trap. Nothing more, nothing less.

[naan1974]

I need help here too man I kind of fell in love accidentally

Counselling session #1 (https://sbf.today/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1)
- if you are falling in love with her. She is doing her job
- if you feel that she is in love with you. She is excelling in her job.

[Chrisk456]

Counselling session #1 (https://sbf.today/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1)
- if you are falling in love with her. She is doing her job
- if you feel that she is in love with you. She is excelling in her job.

Agree on both points. Just walk into another house and try to lose that feeling. She only loves you if she lets you meet her in her country, not asking for money and have you meet her family. Otherwise just find another girl.

[entering]

Up for discussion

Bro Kid,
Don't say FL or WL, maids also can KC us. Plus I also fell in love with a China KTV girl before and lucky only spent like $2000 then i stopped.

Like another bro write the rule is, Find, Fuck, Forget.

[Chrisk456]

Bro Kid,
Don't say FL or WL, maids also can KC us. Plus I also fell in love with a China KTV girl before and lucky only spent like $2000 then i stopped.

Like another bro write the rule is, Find, Fuck, Forget.

Thats very fortunate of you. Can play the KC game but dont involve money, see if the girl really likes you.

[entering]

Thats very fortunate of you. Can play the KC game but dont involve money, see if the girl really likes you.

Maybe she doing excellent job cuz I felt she likes me too, but I think she wants me to divorce and have her, which I cannot.

Plus spend so much on her, the money can fuck another 20 maids, so I woke up, slap myself and told myself to fuck off from her.

[Chrisk456]

Maybe she doing excellent job cuz I felt she likes me too, but I think she wants me to divorce and have her, which I cannot.

Plus spend so much on her, the money can fuck another 20 maids, so I woke up, slap myself and told myself to fuck off from her.

Thats right. If youre married just dont play the KC game. Your wives are more deserving for the love that you can give. Sometimes they just want to let you have a divorce so youll be forced to support her.

[Andreme]

lol i also recently brought a WL out for dinner and tour SG, I only pay for the date things and she only meet me when she on Menses which is also her off days. She will video call me to check if im hanging out with other girls , but i only want to enjoy the company.

Im pretty sure she likes me , but i dont want to make this an actual relationship especially since im pretty sure she makes more money than i do hahaha and i got scammed with a pregnancy thing and lost all my savings and my job so take it from someone who had to learn the hard way.

Love is not feelings , If you dont know how to maintain a good relationship with your parents and siblings and you cant care about the feelings and conditions of others around you you dont know what love is.

Movies and books and songs are lying to you because true love is boring , painful and is characterized by one word " Responsibility ". Logically you dont make enough to support her so how can you say you love her? Only a Man who can meet all of his woman's needs has the luxury of being loved otherwise its known as settling.

[chenyidian]

Thanks bros for this thread, kinda in a similar situation myself. I can relate to some of the situations and it got me thinking straight.

I had visited a PRC girl twice in a span of few months previously as she was my type and I was kind of attracted to her. It was just a normal session with cbj and fj but I still enjoyed it.

I kinda heard that other bros had kisses with her so I got jealous and lost sleep for few days. To get my kiss, I went other houses to practice my technique and when I was finally ready I went back to her.

I opted for an hour and a half session this time unlike previously.

Within secs after entering the room I gotten my kiss and french after that. So basically the more you pay, the more services you unlock I guess. Or becoming a regular. Feels I wasted my time/money/health for no reason.

One of the best advice I seen here is not visit the same girl each time, will try to do that.

[Chrisk456]

Love is not feelings , If you dont know how to maintain a good relationship with your parents and siblings and you cant care about the feelings and conditions of others around you you dont know what love is.

Movies and books and songs are lying to you because true love is boring , painful and is characterized by one word " Responsibility ". Logically you dont make enough to support her so how can you say you love her? Only a Man who can meet all of his woman's needs has the luxury of being loved otherwise its known as settling.

Which world you are living in? All woman in this world nowadays are practical and all they want is to secure their future whether you can provide their needs and wants or you have shown them that you could be successful in the long run. This isnt secondary or uni days anymore. We have to prove something at least and it doesnt matter if the lady is from the nightlife or not. They all want their man to provide something for them.

Youre not sure if she really likes you. These stories are typical yet still fail at the end. Their job is to milk money and what we can do is be smart enough to know which one to invest.

[Chrisk456]

One of the best advice I seen here is not visit the same girl each time, will try to do that.

Yes. Just fck and go. If you fall in love make sure she loves you too and you have enough money to visit her and allow little gifts. Otherwise try to beat the temptation.

[GN007SG]

555 i saw the talks about "normal" girl
how u know that girl at work or that cashier girl does not do any FL work? :cool:

[Chrisk456]

555 i saw the talks about "normal" girl
how u know that girl at work or that cashier girl does not do any FL work? :cool:

Yeah right. All girls get fcked one way or another wherever they work.

[bigbirdbird]

Plus spend so much on her, the money can fuck another 20 maids, so I woke up, slap myself and told myself to fuck off from her.

Good For You Bro ;)

[Andreme]

your right , im very sure you have experienced alot of relationships and that they have been happy and fulfilling for you. Ill keep your advice in mind

[Darge]

It is very hard to walk away but must try….

[Darge]

ML and WL tell me before, they are here to earn $$$ not to find love. KC is part of their game to earn so much $$$ from customers. Unless you have deep pockets or else just enjoy their services, F N F.

[bradpitt968]

Counselling session #1 (https://sbf.today/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1)
- if you are falling in love with her. She is doing her job
- if you feel that she is in love with you. She is excelling in her job.

Well said. But if she brings you back home, you met her father, mother, child/children and relatives, then confirm it is real liao.

Having said that, we don't want to be scam by others, so I feel we shouldn't scam others also. If really want to just be a bastard, just keep saying nice sweet things to them lor.

[chinacuntlover]

Love is not feelings , If you dont know how to maintain a good relationship with your parents and siblings and you cant care about the feelings and conditions of others around you you dont know what love is.

Movies and books and songs are lying to you because true love is boring , painful and is characterized by one word " Responsibility ". Logically you dont make enough to support her so how can you say you love her? Only a Man who can meet all of his woman's needs has the luxury of being loved otherwise its known as settling.

Ha, my perspective as well:)

[fxty1989]

If you want to play this KC thing, you need to know your own level and your opponent level.... if she is expert level... chances are you will perish.... then again, with some KC involved, it does enhance the overall experience....

Basically, you must know when to pull out so that both party will have minimum damage.... i say both party is because the girl is also putting her fair share of effort in the game..

Agreed, this is just a mind game between TS and WL. Both parties are up to something. For TS, it might be some special sevice or extra emotional value. As for WL, most of it it is money. Most of time, TS can never gain upper hands in this game. Giving that WL is always more experienced in this kind of game.

[Darge]

No need to play KC game with WL. Just enjoy being KC’ed by WL 😁

[naan1974]

we don't want to be scam by others, so I feel we shouldn't scam others also. If really want to just be a bastard, just keep saying nice sweet things to them lor.

I really doubt wl will be scam by nice sweet things they hear.
When a wl is working, she wont get scam. She only get scam when she is not working.

[bullterrier]

the bros here said it right. In the first place, are we ready to go all out or are we also just playing with them? are we ready to marry the one we like? provided if you are still single. or are you ready to lose some of your monthly income to support her when she goes back?

What I have seen is, many who went back, continues to work in this trade

[galaxyass]

Once they started this trade, it become part of who she is... its in the blood..... they wont go back to the low income hard work jobs..... its normal human nature....

[Kobayashi99]

will you marry your maid ? and the lifestyle that accompanies her?
i doubt those people that kana KC dont understand this enough

[GN007SG]

will you marry your maid ? and the lifestyle that accompanies her?
i doubt those people that kana KC dont understand this enough

GT is real and uncontrollable by many :D

[Kobayashi99]

GT is real and uncontrollable by many :D

I understand can be in love, relationship etc
But marriage is different set of dynamics here

[galaxyass]

I understand can be in love, relationship etc
But marriage is different set of dynamics here

I have a frd that marry a WL, divorced and now he is going after another WL.... i guess once you start, you cant stop.... he has kept this going for years.... *Salute*

[superman67]

Whores are for fucking not loving. Just fuck them and be done with it. So never fall into kc trap ..imagine one day your wife (Wl) met ur fren who oso screw her before how ? Your fren tell u “ I fk ur wife before “ jialut leh ..:D

[galaxyass]

I guess if you are willing to go that far of marrying the WL, you wont mind who she f before.... this is why its call the KC trap.... ppl got hurt and they will still do it over and over again becauae of the feel good factor of being KCed..... its addicitive....

[Kobayashi99]

I have a frd that marry a WL, divorced and now he is going after another WL.... i guess once you start, you cant stop.... he has kept this going for years.... *Salute*

exactly, this is about control, and these people literally use dick to control their brain and actions
they dont use the logical side which is more cost effective , which is not marry and save the money spent so can spend many more on different women

[sex1over]

横看成岭侧成峰，远近高低各不同。
不识庐山真面目，只缘身在此山中。

斟酌， 斟酌。

[Dignified69]

exactly, this is about control, and these people literally use dick to control their brain and actions
they dont use the logical side which is more cost effective , which is not marry and save the money spent so can spend many more on different women

Aah my friend of the Kobayashi Maru. The Vulcan side of you speaks. But as Captain Kirk said of his friend, you were the most human of all my friends.

It is not that the dick controls the brain. It is the dick has a small brain of its own. And as the legends tell us sometimes David overcomes Goliath.

When for 20 years you would have bonked, then ask you I will if the pleasure of the bonk is enough. Or crave something else do you?

[Dignified69]

Sitting in the land of the Kiwi, I thank the noble brother Sam Leung for he gave us this forum to put in words our pleasure, pain and nonsense.

[Kobayashi99]

Aah my friend of the Kobayashi Maru. The Vulcan side of you speaks. But as Captain Kirk said of his friend, you were the most human of all my friends.

It is not that the dick controls the brain. It is the dick has a small brain of its own. And as the legends tell us sometimes David overcomes Goliath.

When for 20 years you would have bonked, then ask you I will if the pleasure of the bonk is enough. Or crave something else do you?

sure if liu yifei kc me , maybe i will tio kc :o
but what you see in GL sibei low grade, like that also tio kc. is like asking the indo maid to kc you.

[Chillbill]

sure if liu yifei kc me , maybe i will tio kc :o
but what you see in GL sibei low grade, like that also tio kc. is like asking the indo maid to kc you.

That’s a witty remark!

[HalimahYakult]

I have a frd that marry a WL, divorced and now he is going after another WL.... i guess once you start, you cant stop.... he has kept this going for years.... *Salute*

wow how much money did he burn

[galaxyass]

wow how much money did he burn
The only money he burn is the monthly allowance... i guess he is already used to spending that amount.... so once he is done with one, he will move on to the next.... he is constantly looking for new targets.... rich fellow....

[ilovelaksa]

The only money he burn is the monthly allowance... i guess he is already used to spending that amount.... so once he is done with one, he will move on to the next.... he is constantly looking for new targets.... rich fellow....

wah siaaa... power sia he

[Darge]

The only money he burn is the monthly allowance... i guess he is already used to spending that amount.... so once he is done with one, he will move on to the next.... he is constantly looking for new targets.... rich fellow....

Do you know the monthly allowance amount? $10K?

[galaxyass]

Do you know the monthly allowance amount? $10K?
Not 10K lah... if you pay 10k, you can get those super chio model already.... i understand from him is not very high... but he do fly there every mth...

[MrCowboy]

I am in a relationship with girl from L18H44. Young and slender girl. She have been chatting with other customers and I know she is a WL with many man visiting her. I have ON with her and r**.. Shld I continue with her?? We have been texting daily and going out...

[Darge]

I am in a relationship with girl from L18H44. Young and slender girl. She have been chatting with other customers and I know she is a WL with many man visiting her. I have ON with her and r**.. Shld I continue with her?? We have been texting daily and going out...

Are you married? What is your objective? Marry her? Or??

[RRR9]

I am in a relationship with girl from L18H44. Young and slender girl. She have been chatting with other customers and I know she is a WL with many man visiting her. I have ON with her and r**.. Shld I continue with her?? We have been texting daily and going out...

I have been doing something similar.

I think the other brothers are right. Don't get too emotional with them.

[Ecuader]

I am in a relationship with girl from L18H44. Young and slender girl. She have been chatting with other customers and I know she is a WL with many man visiting her. I have ON with her and r**.. Shld I continue with her?? We have been texting daily and going out...

you are probably not the only one.

[galaxyass]

If you are free and not in a relationship, u can continue and see where this bring you.... anyway along the way, u will know if she is interested in you or only you are interested in her.... good luck...��

[Render]

If you are free and not in a relationship, u can continue and see where this bring you.... anyway along the way, u will know if she is interested in you or only you are interested in her.... good luck...��
How to know?

[galaxyass]

If you communicate with her... there are many tell tale signs... just make sure you dont try to find excuses for her and the truth will appear right before your eyes, its a matter of you accepting the fact or not...

[MrCowboy]

I saw her other chats with other bros in wechat. Even saw one photo of a bro's top naked in her phone once. She claimed the body was nice and took the photo. We had an argument over this. I forgave her but after that time, my feeling to her have dropped and just want to enjoy the time with her during her vacations (she spend all her vacation with me, once a week) and bonking her, and nowadays raw. She said that she will block all her customers contact once she end her stint here and plan to get married to me and move to SG.

I don't want to think so far ahead and doubt that we will have a future today. Just want to enjoy her companion and intimate... I guess..

[naan1974]

"I don't want to think so far ahead and doubt that we will have a future today. Just want to enjoy her companion and intimate... I guess.."

If you really practice what you preach , you are in a great
Position bro . Enjoy the moment.

[MrCowboy]

"I don't want to think so far ahead and doubt that we will have a future today. Just want to enjoy her companion and intimate... I guess.."

If you really practice what you preach , you are in a great
Position bro . Enjoy the moment.
Thanks bro. I hope I can do it. I came.to know that she having been giving raw to her regulars and in fact CIP. She don't think it is any big deal.

Well.. all these indicate red flag and just keep myself grounded.

I am sharing my experiences with fellow bros. It take a great deal of will power. Can PM me if needed for further discussion and sharing.

[bradpitt968]

I have a frd that marry a WL, divorced and now he is going after another WL.... i guess once you start, you cant stop.... he has kept this going for years.... *Salute*

Your friend must be quite rich to be able to do this.

[bradpitt968]

I saw her other chats with other bros in wechat. Even saw one photo of a bro's top naked in her phone once. She claimed the body was nice and took the photo. We had an argument over this. I forgave her but after that time, my feeling to her have dropped and just want to enjoy the time with her during her vacations (she spend all her vacation with me, once a week) and bonking her, and nowadays raw. She said that she will block all her customers contact once she end her stint here and plan to get married to me and move to SG.

I don't want to think so far ahead and doubt that we will have a future today. Just want to enjoy her companion and intimate... I guess..

Are you able to support her and her family? All WLs will block or stop contact with most customers after they stop working, they will leave a few which they feel can use as backup or some other reasons.

[galaxyass]

We are the same too... this WLs that went back, we will choose a few to keep for rainy days in case we are there for a trip....������

[Darge]

Thanks bro. I hope I can do it. I came.to know that she having been giving raw to her regulars and in fact CIP. She don't think it is any big deal.

Well.. all these indicate red flag and just keep myself grounded.

I am sharing my experiences with fellow bros. It take a great deal of will power. Can PM me if needed for further discussion and sharing.

Good that you realised that you are not the only special one can CIP. Just enjoy her company only and move on when she ORD

[Ecuader]

Well.. all these indicate red flag and just keep myself grounded.

I am sharing my experiences with fellow bros. It take a great deal of will power. Can PM me if needed for further discussion and sharing.

shouldnt be surprised
+24 for you

[Chillbill]

They are all well schooled in pragmatism.

[Chillbill]

Only fools rush in…

[MrCowboy]

I gave up. Not worth my time with her. She can continue to provide raw services to her regulars.

[Darge]

I gave up. Not worth my time with her. She can continue to provide raw services to her regulars. Girl number 2x. Enjoy guys. Can up my points when you have unlocked raw with her.

Glad you are able to walk away. 👍🏻

[bradpitt968]

I am in a relationship with girl from L18H44. Young and slender girl. She have been chatting with other customers and I know she is a WL with many man visiting her. I have ON with her and r**.. Shld I continue with her?? We have been texting daily and going out...

Sorry, I thought only have L18H44A and L18H44B. So where is L18H44?

[galaxyass]

Eversince the post, there is a long queue there and the WL also puzzled why suddenly so many ppl ask for her and everybody want to R** her..... guess theres always a good and bad side of wverything....

[galaxyass]

Sorry, I thought only have L18H44A and L18H44B. So where is L18H44?

There is only 44 and 44B, there you have the answer..😊

[energy_boi]

Haha which one is she exactly ?

[michglim]

Are you able to support her and her family? All WLs will block or stop contact with most customers after they stop working, they will leave a few which they feel can use as backup or some other reasons.

Actually i met many thais over years in geylang i dunno 5y 10y?

No one has ever tried to fleece me. U can say maybe is language barrier harder to communicate and fleece lol

But i have made a few "friends"

They are all humans....at my age i dont get KC trapped unlike in my 20s or rarely early 30s

Got 1 or 2 is even my facebook friend and like my posts after they return to thailand

Cus i visit them i treat ppl as ppl give them basic respect also since they earn 60 or 100 i tip them each time

Over years they become friendly and in fact in a few houses the okt and girls over several years know me well :p

My relative married a thai girl and sadly its the classic send money to thailand cow fall ill grandma dying dog sick story and hes now on the verge of divorce after emptying his savings...

[michglim]

I saw her other chats with other bros in wechat. Even saw one photo of a bro's top naked in her phone once. She claimed the body was nice and took the photo. We had an argument over this. I forgave her but after that time, my feeling to her have dropped and just want to enjoy the time with her during her vacations (she spend all her vacation with me, once a week) and bonking her, and nowadays raw. She said that she will block all her customers contact once she end her stint here and plan to get married to me and move to SG.

I don't want to think so far ahead and doubt that we will have a future today. Just want to enjoy her companion and intimate... I guess..


Bro i pmed you

By the way, i think u know wl have to leave sg end of 2y and cannot come back. Its also not possible to marry wl in sg afaik.

Wl have a lot of free time daily. They basicslly sex with 10-20ppl daily and inevitably they may like someone better and if not married why not prospect a few potential marriage partners or flings or potential goldmines which working through KC?

U can treat her as a friend and who knows if really 2y later still interested u csn fly to thailand marry her there i guess. I diubt csn in sg.

But brining her back in under ltvp or pr will be another headache and children etc...

[michglim]

Quote 2 quotes for you

https://www.womensaction.sg/article/migration

“For licensed brothels in Geylang, the workers are given two-year contracts, and when the contract is up, they will have a lifetime travel ban."

But buddy, what's the point of bringing her back? If you wanna have a good time just go to where she is, enjoy and come back. If you are trying to create some life with her, then it might be a good idea to think again.

Her name will be in the blacklist in both the sg embassy in bkk and Thailand embassy in Singapore. You need to request to remove her name from
The black list. Prerequisites u probably need to marry her or have baby with her. Something along this line b4 they even consider your request.

I have a fren who’s Thai wife tried to enter sg after she exit sg 20years later. They had a daughter. The daughter was allowed to enter sg. But the immigration detain the wife and send her back bkk.
Immigration told my fren he should have had her name removed from the blacklist.

I do know of former GL gals reentering sg to work as dome1 gals.
She even tried to ask me give her my address want me be her guarantor.
I rejected of cos. Dunno how she entered. Ica sleeping probably.

[walao]

Sorry, I thought only have L18H44A and L18H44B. So where is L18H44?

Above 44B. Don't ask me why, ask URA, Geylang Dist. Masterplanning Dept.

Walao

[walao]

Quote 2 quotes for you

My fren ex WL wife kena PR, cos my friend pays alot of income taxes.

Walao

[walao]

Actually i met many thais over years in geylang i dunno 5y 10y?

No one has ever tried to fleece me. U can say maybe is language barrier harder to communicate and fleece lol

But i have made a few "friends"

They are all humans....at my age i dont get KC trapped unlike in my 20s or rarely early 30s

Got 1 or 2 is even my facebook friend and like my posts after they return to thailand

Cus i visit them i treat ppl as ppl give them basic respect also since they earn 60 or 100 i tip them each time

Over years they become friendly and in fact in a few houses the okt and girls over several years know me well :p

My relative married a thai girl and sadly its the classic send money to thailand cow fall ill grandma dying dog sick story and hes now on the verge of divorce after emptying his savings...

Not all. My fren's gf, durian tree collapse due to typhoon with video evidence. Money sent to fix her outdoor toilet. Cos he also uses that outdoor toilet sometimes. Sometimes a snake (he and his gf call it xiao ming) creep out from the toilet bowl, sticking out it's tongue with shit ontop of it's head. no regret.

Walao

[hornie]

Lol can I also add, 20 years back I also really liked this Thai WL from Geylang and I wanted to date her, follow her back to her village, visit her etc and she asked me something that woke me up.

She asked my "Why?"

I looked at her and wished her the best and I left. I was thankful that she was kind enough to shake me out of the trap that I see many people fall for.

My 3 rules of having fun.

Rule number 1- Don't fall in love with people who are not looking for love.

Rule number 2- Always use protection.

Rule number 3- Spend within your means.



Quote 2 quotes for you

[naan1974]

Lol can I also add, 20 years back I also really liked this Thai WL from Geylang and I wanted to date her, follow her back to her village, visit her etc and she asked me something that woke me up.

She asked my "Why?"

I looked at her and wished her the best and I left. I was thankful that she was kind enough to shake me out of the trap that I see many people fall for.

My 3 rules of having fun.

Rule number 1- Don't fall in love with people who are not looking for love.

Rule number 2- Always use protection.

Rule number 3- Spend within your means.

👍.. yr're considered blessed..you met someone with 良心.
Else, most learnt from mistakes rather than history.

[unfit]

in the very first place

we have to understand that they are here 100% money not love

number two why ica blacklist is the undertaking they signed at av

thirdly I would say is not all licensed sex workers are bad egg

cos personally I came across a handful of really nice women

although few decades of whoremongering I had donated a lot of money to them:D

Frankly speaking neither cheating nor scamming even stealing

me parted my yusofs willingly:p

Those ex WLs whom are closed with me are my friends now no more hanky panky

Those brothers who are curious how they come back not easy

1. Local sponsor with guarantee bond or

Acra registered company


2. Application of visa pass

All these submission of documents is for the ica assessment and consideration

One most important thing is the sponsor

If you are high earners contributing lots of funds to nation building

Chance is 99.99% :eek:

[ATCong]

in the very first place

we have to understand that they are here 100% money not love

number two why ica blacklist is the undertaking they signed at av

thirdly I would say is not all licensed sex workers are bad egg

cos personally I came across a handful of really nice women

although few decades of whoremongering I had donated a lot of money to them:D

Frankly speaking neither cheating nor scamming even stealing

me parted my yusofs willingly:p

Those ex WLs whom are closed with me are my friends now no more hanky panky

Those brothers who are curious how they come back not easy

1. Local sponsor with guarantee bond or

Acra registered company


2. Application of visa pass

All these submission of documents is for the ica assessment and consideration

One most important thing is the sponsor

If you are high earners contributing lots of funds to nation building

Chance is 99.99% :eek:

That's means it is still possible lah.
Just troublesome only.

[unfit]

That's means it is still possible lah.
Just troublesome only.

Yes that’s why so many came back :D

But guarantor must ensure she doesn’t hanky panky in SG :)

[escobar43535]

Man of much experience with the WLs, well said bro:cool:

Particularly agree with some WLs being "really nice women"

Fortunately I too have had the good luck of meeting a few too

They opened up my eyes and made me realise always give a WL the benefit of the doubt


in the very first place

we have to understand that they are here 100% money not love

number two why ica blacklist is the undertaking they signed at av

thirdly I would say is not all licensed sex workers are bad egg

cos personally I came across a handful of really nice women

although few decades of whoremongering I had donated a lot of money to them:D

Frankly speaking neither cheating nor scamming even stealing

me parted my yusofs willingly:p

Those ex WLs whom are closed with me are my friends now no more hanky panky

[unfit]

Man of much experience with the WLs, well said bro:cool:

Particularly agree with some WLs being "really nice women"

Fortunately I too have had the good luck of meeting a few too

They opened up my eyes and made me realise always give a WL the benefit of the doubt

throughout my decades of whoremongering

approximately 30% of them are my true friends now

but I don’t really blame the 70% cos they need money

this is the fastest avenue to accumulate

talk about those who successfully got pink ic

Also half half

Some really good housewives

Some still continue to milk their husbands:D

Guess there is no right wrong

Cos we only live once

Most important we are happy with them

Normal girl might not be as open as ex sex worker:p

[naan1974]

Normal girl might not be as open as ex sex worker:p

indeed, a ex wl told me once a gal had chosen this path,
sex is no longer an intimate act of love but a tool, a very effective one for them. Usually for a lifetime

[madmax8888]

in the very first place

we have to understand that they are here 100% money not love

number two why ica blacklist is the undertaking they signed at av

thirdly I would say is not all licensed sex workers are bad egg

cos personally I came across a handful of really nice women

although few decades of whoremongering I had donated a lot of money to them:D

Frankly speaking neither cheating nor scamming even stealing

me parted my yusofs willingly:p

Those ex WLs whom are closed with me are my friends now no more hanky panky

Those brothers who are curious how they come back not easy

1. Local sponsor with guarantee bond or

Acra registered company


2. Application of visa pass

All these submission of documents is for the ica assessment and consideration

One most important thing is the sponsor

If you are high earners contributing lots of funds to nation building

Chance is 99.99% :eek:

High income earner contributing lots to nation bullilding ... Need to help make sure you got your outlet to continue contributing 😂

[escobar43535]

Very well said once again bro:cool:


Guess there is no right wrong

Cos we only live once

Most important we are happy with them

Normal girl might not be as open as ex sex worker:p

[unfit]

indeed, a ex wl told me once a gal had chosen this path,
sex is no longer an intimate act of love but a tool, a very effective one for them. Usually for a lifetime

joke aside

one of my ex

she’s a doctor

but she provides me YTL 🫣🫣🫣

was shocked by her skill

but pretend and act virgin:D

[Rubbaking]

throughout my decades of whoremongering

approximately 30% of them are my true friends now

but I don’t really blame the 70% cos they need money

this is the fastest avenue to accumulate

talk about those who successfully got pink ic

Also half half

Some really good housewives

Some still continue to milk their husbands:D

Guess there is no right wrong

Cos we only live once

Most important we are happy with them

Normal girl might not be as open as ex sex worker:p

You last statement nailed it bro and that is exactly how i enjoyed. So much easier to communicate on certain stuff especially bed skills.

[unfit]

You last statement nailed it bro and that is exactly how i enjoyed. So much easier to communicate on certain stuff especially bed skills.

thats very true cos YOLO :D

[Rubbaking]

thats very true cos YOLO :D

Yeah, and important to be happy. Thankfully I am giving up on GL not during its hey days.

[unfit]

Yeah, and important to be happy. Thankfully I am giving up on GL not during its hey days.

our fl dome 2 also doomed liao :o

[Rubbaking]

our fl dome 2 also doomed liao :o

Land mines more than cambodia and vietnam ah?

[unfit]

Land mines more than cambodia and vietnam ah?

basically those CMI back home were here that’s why:o

[Rubbaking]

basically those CMI back home were here that’s why:o

Seems like got to cut down chionging liao. Forced retirement.