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primalhunter
15-11-2006, 12:36 PM
Hi guys and gals,
Been around for many years now but never really started a thread of my own. The reason for this thread is purely out of curiosity. I have seen threads asking about whether bros and sis here belief in true love to whether u married the person u love most. I have a theory that most of us here, are here because of sexual frustrations. Its either you are not getting any from the gf or wifes, or that it is a one way traffic thing. Or it is not as good as it used to be.

These and other sex related reasons may be the force that drives us here to FANTASY LAND aka sammyboyforum.

My confession. I am one such person. My grouse is that sex with my wife is, well, boring after the birth of our son. Married for 4 years now. Her concept is that, we are now parents, so must behave. I can't remember the last time she initiate sex anymore. Now when i ask, she will give all sorts of excuses. When she gives in, its usually because she felt obliged to service me, spread her legs and say do it quickly. No variations. straight missionary. worse still, while u are at it, she will ask, why so long, not yet finish har?

This is the same woman who loved blowjob when we first started. Now, dirty laa.... Also forbids me to go down on her... same reason, dirty laaa...

So, here i m frustrated, but thanks to sammyboy, i can relieve myself with the good stuff here.

Any bros and sis here care to support my theory or tear it down, please feel free to do so.

curiosityz
15-11-2006, 12:45 PM
Hi guys and gals,
Been around for many years now but never really started a thread of my own. The reason for this thread is purely out of curiosity. I have seen threads asking about whether bros and sis here belief in true love to whether u married the person u love most. I have a theory that most of us here, are here because of sexual frustrations. Its either you are not getting any from the gf or wifes, or that it is a one way traffic thing. Or it is not as good as it used to be.

These and other sex related reasons may be the force that drives us here to FANTASY LAND aka sammyboyforum.

My confession. I am one such person. My grouse is that sex with my wife is, well, boring after the birth of our son. Married for 4 years now. Her concept is that, we are now parents, so must behave. I can't remember the last time she initiate sex anymore. Now when i ask, she will give all sorts of excuses. When she gives in, its usually because she felt obliged to service me, spread her legs and say do it quickly. No variations. straight missionary. worse still, while u are at it, she will ask, why so long, not yet finish har?

This is the same woman who loved blowjob when we first started. Now, dirty laa.... Also forbids me to go down on her... same reason, dirty laaa...

So, here i m frustrated, but thanks to sammyboy, i can relieve myself with the good stuff here.

Any bros and sis here care to support my theory or tear it down, please feel free to do so.

bro, few of my friend's wife also have this mentality. it is indeed to change their perception of things but you can try to educate them slowly and i know of one who managed to do so on his wife. of course it isnt eassy but when it happened, it is great :D

decimal86
15-11-2006, 01:11 PM
came across yr post bro'. and u r not alone.

i oso. what to do? they approaching menopause and just don't seem to find sex that important anymore....

so i come to this place lor. check out the action with like-minded males.

cannot push them. after all, they are mother to our kids. just loon lor. as coffe-shop talk.

jul78
15-11-2006, 01:16 PM
bro, u r not alone... me married for 3yrs n sex is like 0nce a month....damn sad....:D ...b4 married, sex was like almost everyday...lol... her reason was she is tired lah...stress lah..etc...wat to do...come sbf lor...

primalhunter
15-11-2006, 01:37 PM
i oso. what to do? they approaching menopause and just don't seem to find sex that important anymore....

Bro, i hear u. But my wife just turn 30 this year and has a body to die for(She is 170cm, weighs 50kg with stats, 36-26-36) . My frens would usually say things like," you damn lucky fucker!" to me, but if only they know my pain. :(

You know, I have another theory for this. It's their women friends. They get together and compare notes with each other, everything ranging from makeup, to recipes and sex. She once came back telling me that none of her frens do BJ on their husbands. And thats when I didn't get no BJs no more!!!

Another time she came back telling me that "sex is not the only thing in life, u know" Obviously some frigid bitch got to her laa.... then i m left with a rock hard dick in hand..... under utilized mostly....:o

Castrol
15-11-2006, 02:15 PM
They get together and compare notes with each other, everything ranging from makeup, to recipes and sex. She once came back telling me that none of her frens do BJ on their husbands. And thats when I didn't get no BJs no more!!!



whats happening to our singapore wives?

i was in hk recently and got a drink in a pub. the pub manageress, in her late 30s, told me most of the wives in hk dont give their husbands blowjobs. i told her in spore, we get bj and CIM from our wives when we snap our fingers... :D

decimal86
15-11-2006, 03:52 PM
i oso. what to do? they approaching menopause and just don't seem to find sex that important anymore....

Bro, i hear u. But my wife just turn 30 this year and has a body to die for(She is 170cm, weighs 50kg with stats, 36-26-36) . My frens would usually say things like," you damn lucky fucker!" to me, but if only they know my pain. :(

You know, I have another theory for this. It's their women friends. They get together and compare notes with each other, everything ranging from makeup, to recipes and sex. She once came back telling me that none of her frens do BJ on their husbands. And thats when I didn't get no BJs no more!!!

Another time she came back telling me that "sex is not the only thing in life, u know" Obviously some frigid bitch got to her laa.... then i m left with a rock hard dick in hand..... under utilized mostly....:o

wah like that chia lat liao. i thot ah so oredi that's why not interested in sex anymore....

yes, their frens oso stir shit-lah. once they all agree that BJ, CIM and anal no go, we suffer.

read in the papers some time ago, this guy brought his wife for counselling cuz' of this problem, ALMOST DIVORCE bro'! she said no means no....

TuaPao
15-11-2006, 04:27 PM
my first time posting...

i cannot agree more....been married for more than 10 years...the sex part is the inverse of the length of marriage....the longer you're married the lesser the sex part....sometimes i read the logo at the top of sbf, woman need a reason, man just need a place....i also laugh....now the trips i make to bkk is get more and more....don't know can afford to bluff for how long more....i really want to know how many bros here actually ever go for marriage counselling??:confused:

yinyang
15-11-2006, 05:48 PM
.. i told her in spore, we get bj and CIM from our wives when we snap our fingers... :D
Bro Castrol, you make us less fortunate souls green with envy:p.

whitegals
15-11-2006, 08:21 PM
One of my ex-gf once tried that with me, after moving in with me for 6 months, the first six months were bliss, sex every night and morning. BJ in the shower, doggie while watching TV, etc.

Then as usual, she got to know this bunch of women at work and started talking and coming back with, "you know lucy from accounts? she doesn't do BJs!" or "Stephanie, Lucy, Emma and Liz says that my energy should be better channelled into other activities rather than letting you pump me all the time..." yeh, better activities like going to the spa, salon, shoe shopping etc, bitches...

So one day i said to her straight, if we're not gonna fuck, then dun complain or get in the way should i go out and fuck someone else. She didn't believe me, so I did and she moved out. Now I'm living with a gal who loves sex and football.... brilliant! :D

Shuang_Jie_Gun
15-11-2006, 08:24 PM
Now I'm living with a gal who loves sex and football.... brilliant! :D

Best of both worlds!So envious of u sia~~:)

decimal86
15-11-2006, 08:57 PM
One of my ex-gf once tried that with me, after moving in with me for 6 months, the first six months were bliss, sex every night and morning. BJ in the shower, doggie while watching TV, etc.

Then as usual, she got to know this bunch of women at work and started talking and coming back with, "you know lucy from accounts? she doesn't do BJs!" or "Stephanie, Lucy, Emma and Liz says that my energy should be better channelled into other activities rather than letting you pump me all the time..." yeh, better activities like going to the spa, salon, shoe shopping etc, bitches...

So one day i said to her straight, if we're not gonna fuck, then dun complain or get in the way should i go out and fuck someone else. She didn't believe me, so I did and she moved out. Now I'm living with a gal who loves sex and football.... brilliant! :D

she loves sex and willingly watch football with you?? there is a heaven after all!!

page||
15-11-2006, 09:14 PM
presently still no such problem... but hmmm... in future not sure will such a thing happen anot.. :cool:

whitegals
15-11-2006, 09:20 PM
she loves sex and willingly watch football with you?? there is a heaven after all!!

She not only watches, she also plays defender with a gals team. It's a good thing, keeps her fit and her stamina lasts for hours in between the sheets. :D

With the watching, sometimes we get into arguments about which team is gonna win, she supports Spurs and I support Liverpool, things get quite heated up and most of the time, we have to sort things out by fucking during half time.... :D

=WK=
15-11-2006, 09:25 PM
She not only watches, she also plays defender with a gals team. It's a good thing, keeps her fit and her stamina lasts for hours in between the sheets. :D

...


omg, does she have any friends or sisters like her in singapore? :p

Licky88
15-11-2006, 09:54 PM
These and other sex related reasons may be the force that drives us here to FANTASY LAND aka sammyboyforum.
My confession. I am one such person. My grouse is that sex with my wife is, well, boring after the birth of our son. Married for 4 years now. Her concept is that, we are now parents, so must behave. I can't remember the last time she initiate sex anymore. Now when i ask, she will give all sorts of excuses. When she gives in, its usually because she felt obliged to service me, spread her legs and say do it quickly. No variations. straight missionary. worse still, while u are at it, she will ask, why so long, not yet finish har?

This is the same woman who loved blowjob when we first started. Now, dirty laa.... Also forbids me to go down on her... same reason, dirty laaa...

So, here i m frustrated, but thanks to sammyboy, i can relieve myself with the good stuff here.

Any bros and sis here care to support my theory or tear it down, please feel free to do so.

I am in the same boat as you - exactly what you said - a mirror image of me in you! KNN! If not for my son whom I love so much, I would dump her and get another life sex partner NOT a sleeping partner good for nothing!

primalhunter
15-11-2006, 10:32 PM
Sigh.... looks like i had unknowingly opened up some wounds by starting this thread.... but to bro whitegal, i salute u!!! my number one fantasy, which obviously is reality to you already, is to get a BJ while watching MU scoring a goal!!! and yell GOALLLLLL on Climax! :D

juzjoin
15-11-2006, 10:41 PM
well this is motherhhod, once they have kids their attention will be 95% on kids and the rest is distribute evenly among others which is to say the husband get about less than 5% of her attention.

whitegals
15-11-2006, 10:47 PM
Sigh.... looks like i had unknowingly opened up some wounds by starting this thread.... but to bro whitegal, i salute u!!! my number one fantasy, which obviously is reality to you already, is to get a BJ while watching MU scoring a goal!!! and yell GOALLLLLL on Climax! :D

No no no, when the match is playing, all eyes will be on the screen, maybe a hug or sharing a bottle of Becks is ok, maybe a kiss here and there... the BJ is half time or for post match conferences. :D

JWNY
15-11-2006, 11:42 PM
Then and now....confessions of a woman? (need someone to verify) :p

Then

- dear, i miss you so much i die not seeing your "good night" text messages...

Now

- what is wrong with you?! can you OFF the bloody light? trying to get some sleep here!! and DON'T snore!!

Then

- Honey, let's shower together...i love it when you massage me...

Now

- can you bath yourself...and make it quick

Then

- darling, if you want to make love EVERY night...be careful...i might want it more than once

Now

- AGAIN?! You're really a perve...should have listened to mum and married someone else...men all the same...ALL!!!!

WOMEN...can't live with them...can't live without them ;)

JWNY

sammyboyfor
16-11-2006, 03:57 AM
If not for my son whom I love so much, I would dump her and get another life sex partner NOT a sleeping partner good for nothing!

Why did you fuck her and produce a son in the first place then???:confused:

You've made your bed... now sleep on it.:mad:

youallsonice?
16-11-2006, 04:51 AM
Why did you fuck her and produce a son in the first place then???:confused:

You've made your bed... now sleep on it.:mad:

well, boss, if you really thought that way, you wouldn't have this site up and directly/indirectly encouraged us to sleep on other beds. Oh well, couldn't blame you right, also got many other sites, and it is our fault cannot control etc.. whatever.

sammyboyfor
16-11-2006, 06:40 AM
well, boss, if you really thought that way, you wouldn't have this site up and directly/indirectly encouraged us to sleep on other beds.

Married men with wives and children are banned from this site.

This forum is for unmarried/unattached cheongsters only.

obelisk
16-11-2006, 09:44 AM
boss woke up on wrong side of bed this morning....
if boss banned all the rest, sbf would lose more than half of its population...

analog539
16-11-2006, 10:29 AM
Hiyah Primal:

My situation is not quite like yours, but similar. Since the kids, things in the sex dept. have slowed down in a major way. Think is, when we do find time, wife is VERY game, in fact, she'll run and get the pornos to get in the mood. Also, certain positions hurt since the kinds came....have to get that checked with the gynnie. The long and short of it is, the frequency, 2-3 times per month is crap. We used to shag every day, BJs, anal, toys...you name it, we did it. Now just no time. Sure, circumstances are partially to blame but wife's career is also an issue. The truth is, if my sack was empty all the time, I wouldn't even be aware of this site, but my sack is usually bursting now days because of the lack of sex.

Did that make sense?

:)
Jim

Castrol
16-11-2006, 10:34 AM
Bro Castrol, you make us less fortunate souls green with envy:p.

haha bro dont be, we make full use of the one at home just becos she's there. :p

primalhunter
16-11-2006, 10:43 AM
Hiyah Primal:

The truth is, if my sack was empty all the time, I wouldn't even be aware of this site, but my sack is usually bursting now days because of the lack of sex.

Did that make sense?

:)
Jim

Hey Jim, atleast you have got a live one there. Only that she is busy with work or watever. Looks like most of us here has a cold dead fish with us. Had long sworn off "outsourcing" but with me travelling so much at work recently, can't help thinking about cheonging again. And the stuff in here sure as hell not helping the cause!! :rolleyes:

primalhunter
16-11-2006, 11:03 AM
bro JWNY,
You sure nailed it there. She just asked me rudely to 'fucking switch off the lights" last night.

I was like, "yeah sure, after the fucking then i will switch off the lights!" Sure as hell wanted to jump her there and then but was never a violent person. instead just walked off to grab a beer and watch ESPN, leaving the lights on, ofcourse .....:D

scasi
16-11-2006, 11:08 AM
1st timer, if wrong dun flame.

I have been very active in my early days, things turn around after i married my wife, my sex life is limited, not sure why..... and i did not blame my wife, as i feel it's me.....

My wife is as beautiful since day 1 we met, now look even better after child birth, mature, powerful and sexy.

After the birth of my princess, my entire attention diverted to my baby. I spend a lot of time and no denied still love my wife. But it's me that i feel not want to have it.

Dunno what wrong with me?? Sometimes spend a lot of time wandering, is it that i have finish my desire in life in early days???? Where i fuck every day??
Or is it because i have a daughter and scared of retribution??!!

Cdr Bacara
16-11-2006, 12:03 PM
Frustrated because still single and no outlet. Plus practice makes perfect. ;)

big dick
16-11-2006, 12:04 PM
Married men with wives and children are banned from this site.

This forum is for unmarried/unattached cheongsters only.

boss woke up on wrong side of bed this morning....
if boss banned all the rest, sbf would lose more than half of its population...


boss.. like that i cant surf sammyboy.com any more le since u banning Married men with wives and children..:( :p


bd

beingunknown200
16-11-2006, 12:21 PM
Dunno what wrong with me?? Sometimes spend a lot of time wandering, is it that i have finish my desire in life in early days???? Where i fuck every day??Or is it because i have a daughter and scared of retribution??!!

What an interesting way to put things!Maybe you might have too much time to think about unnecessary things..but you might be right to say that you are scared of retribution. Actually sometimes when I see some bros flaming or insulting some FL/WL or their gfs/wives..or the way they treat them, 我的心里一寒. For all that they may know, some bro may be having a fling with their gfs/wives (hopefully not with their daughters!) and treating them like shit or just a sex object.

But then I respect those bros who are in hotwife/swinging lifestyle and have rules set out to have fun together with their wives/gfs. Think for those I can still accept if they dont lead the typical marriage lifestyle.

Guess not all the bros here can have a good match with a good sex partner and a good wife/mother. Haha hence need to come here to find that "prefect match". Anyway there is another thread that has a similar topic to this thread...except its "how long did you not have sex with your...". From there can understand the frustration of our bros and surprisingly our (horny) sis as well

bunny
16-11-2006, 12:39 PM
Well my sharing:

Whiel studying
1 time a week - cos' I am holed up all the way in Jurong (u can guess where) so she visit me once a week there.

Then when start working and not yet married .. maybe 1-2 times a week when we get to see each other.

After married ... still about 1 time week.

Then kids come ... somehow it stretch to 2time s a mth or even 1 time a mth
cos' sway sway kena period then cannot.

Anyway mostly same routine of making love etc.

At one pt in time making love was important ... not getting can change my mood seriously ... and also expectign and hoping for it and then not getting it really got me frustrated.

At the end of the day ... i still love her ... and she gae me many beautiful kids ... so the only thing was the love making (I call sex since shorter ... but actually it is more than sex).

So how to get over it ... not easy.
No matter how I try ... not easy ... PCC etc... go to geylang etc.

BUt i think the important part is not to let the "mood" drag me down. WHen that happens ... I call the freindly OKT, my regulars or go shopping in GL ... hahahaha. If I am unfortunate ... then I will look forward to the alternatives.

From the lady's persepctive (not taking sides), but all that I read ... I also got about the same feedback. SO the reality I believe is that it is indeed true. Except that our urge so strong that we get "blinded" by our own needs. So the advice is to spare some thot for the poor wife. It is indeed tough for her ... cos after work somehow she will still think of the cooking, the washign up , the kids, the supermarket shopping, when need to go to the wet market. Got enuf food left inthe cupboard or fridge .. got bread or not ...etc. etc... so her mind is so busy that she is tired.

Well one trick about it ... through out the week ... give her simpe hugs and kisses, send an occassional SMS to say the u love her ot think about her etc. Spend time to just listen and put your arms aorund her (without attacking her breast ... hahahahah ... that happen to me too) ... when you do enuf of this ...then she will be more likely to be inthe mood. It is no guarantee that it will improve but the chances are there that the frequency will be better.

So now from 1-2 times a mth.. it is abot 3-4 times a mth ... hahahaha. On some unfortunate mths it is 2 times.

Just sharing. In the end those who are stuck inthe situation ... maybe this may help. So just summarising:
- don't "expect" to have sex each time you get close
- if the urge is so strong and you still dun get it from wife ... then go look for alternatives.
- sedn nice SMS to her
- give her nice hugs ...and kisses without the "follow-up" hahaha
- listen to her "complaisn" at work
- be more helpful around the house

I dun intend to leave my wife ... so I have to find a postivei way around it. The above is my own way of resolving the problem. Hope the sharign will be of some use to those reading.
Cheers

primalhunter
16-11-2006, 12:48 PM
Hi bros and sis, something came to my mind and I think that this would provide a good spin to the title of this thread. Has the level of sex gone down as the years go by be more to do with the reducing sex appeal of your spouse over the years? And that being tired, frustrated from work and all that jazz just a cover?

Again let me start off by relating my own story. Before I was married, I was this strongly built, athletic guy. Very active in sports and games. OK in the looks department. But a few years back, I had this football injury that, well to put it simply, retired me permanent from most games. And with age, some of us tend to put on some weight. I did. Almost 15kilos, actually. Now, my wife, on the other hand, who has always been the slim type, after giving birth to our son, quickly got back her figure.

This is bordering on paranoia, I know, but is my flabby appearance now, the reason for her to be so put off by sex with me???

This happens to both guys and gals. Gals may find it hard to return to their size XS clothing after a baby or two. Do you think your hubby is put off by your appearance?

Some gals here might have some input to this argument. Sigh.... I may open another bigger wound here.. but again, curiosity...:p

bunny
16-11-2006, 01:29 PM
Bro Primal,
Ithink u raised a good request.... we need to know where the wound is before we can treat it. We dun like the pain ... but no pain no gain I guess.
Hahahaha... this response is best from our lady members here. But dun know if they will be reading. Cheers :-)

Oh ... my input ... I dun think that it is the looks ... but it is the whole thing that matters ... at this pt in time it is making love to her mind I think that drives her rather than the looks .... but this can only be verified by our lady members.

SexFreak
16-11-2006, 07:21 PM
Just sharing. In the end those who are stuck inthe situation ... maybe this may help. So just summarising:
- don't "expect" to have sex each time you get close
- if the urge is so strong and you still dun get it from wife ... then go look for alternatives.
- sedn nice SMS to her
- give her nice hugs ...and kisses without the "follow-up" hahaha
- listen to her "complaisn" at work
- be more helpful around the house

:) Absolutely Positive !!! I am sure it works ......... :D


Cheers !!!

durex
16-11-2006, 09:42 PM
sexually frustrated? gusess every thing have its way in life,its part of living,just need to extend family life to another level i gusess:p
i'm here because this is the only and most exciting local sex site around,so many good bros around sure can find one or two friends to click:D

asdfghjkl
16-11-2006, 11:37 PM
Hope brothers can help me on this one:

- send nice SMS to her

She keeps her HP off unless she wants to use it. Wants to save battery.

- give her nice hugs ...and kisses without the "follow-up" hahaha

She do not like being hugged. Already like this during courtship.

- listen to her "complaisn" at work

She is the quiet type, even to me. Like to bottle everything up and one day explode.

- be more helpful around the house

I am the one doing all the housework. She comes home just to sleep.

primalhunter
17-11-2006, 09:01 AM
Hope brothers can help me on this one:

- send nice SMS to her

She keeps her HP off unless she wants to use it. Wants to save battery.

- give her nice hugs ...and kisses without the "follow-up" hahaha

She do not like being hugged. Already like this during courtship.

- listen to her "complaisn" at work

She is the quiet type, even to me. Like to bottle everything up and one day explode.

- be more helpful around the house

I am the one doing all the housework. She comes home just to sleep.

Wow Bro, raw deal this one! I think you need to think about your own well being more now. Looks like this seriously is one way traffic. She has really taken you for granted! My suggestion maybe a little extreme but I think she needs to be reminded that you are not always there, get wat i mean. Go out more, don't be the one home waiting for her to come back. If she calls and ask where you are, say you are busy, with someone( don't specify who that someone unless you need to) and STOP cleaning the house!

Basically, give her a taste of her own medicine. Switch of your phone too. See if she reacts in a panick. If she does, you are half way there. In other words, act like BO CHAP!!

Word of caution though. Before you do this, you need to evaluate your position in the relationship. Like, does she really care for you anymore? If she does not, sigh.... sorry bro, you can't take this route unless you wanna break with her.

I have done this b4. Worked well but for short term only because i can't bear to see her hurt. :o

Lastly, love is not fair, bro. In some relationships, the bro is in control, in others, the bor!

Good luck.

bunny
17-11-2006, 09:31 AM
Hope brothers can help me on this one:

- send nice SMS to her

She keeps her HP off unless she wants to use it. Wants to save battery.

- give her nice hugs ...and kisses without the "follow-up" hahaha

She do not like being hugged. Already like this during courtship.

- listen to her "complaisn" at work

She is the quiet type, even to me. Like to bottle everything up and one day explode.

- be more helpful around the house

I am the one doing all the housework. She comes home just to sleep.

Bro asdfghjkl (never realised your nick so easy to type hahaha :-) ),
I think a way to appraoch your case is really the communications. My theory is as follows:
Comms is about the feelings. If dun +++ then got problem knowing what the person realy feels and so sooner or later sure hit the trip falre and activate the claymore mine ...kapooow ... argue etc. So the first part is realy how to +++ and share feelings. If somehow cannot then one good way is to write to her how you feel. Remember write your feelings and dun accuse her of anything else the letter go into the lap-sup-tong. I can go like .."when you came home yesterday and were upset, I felt lost and alone and did nto know how to appraoch you to talk ..."

So this way you can let her know what and how you feel. You can at the end suggest that if she has difficulty talking about it, then she can write her feelings.

Theroy is that when both understand each other better, then you can decide what you want to do about it ... if you respond caringly, then you will begin to build the trust. However if you dun respond to it positively then the other person may take it as "see I share and then nothing happens" and then the trust breaks down. Ussualy this sort fo "training" is done by both, but now only 1 person (YOU), so you have to be patient and "teach" your partner a little about this theory so that he/she responds correctly. Be patient. Good things will be rewarded, but must be patient and TONG! ahahaha.

Well the theory works ... for me at least. Almost divorced or at least live separate lives as married couple. But after we practice this the relationship gets better. Almost no quarrel after a few years of practice ... hahahah :-) yah a few years ... it takes time for the trust to be rebuilt. It has made life better, love making more ... but not as much as I would like ... but better than before lah.

Well Love is about giving and not taking or expecting something in return.
That of course is my own personal view and it has helped me change my mindset and able to accept the situation. I look to enjoy the cup half-full rather than agonise voer the cup half-empty.

Cheers hope the sharing will be of some help.

bonkers17
17-11-2006, 09:36 AM
Hi guys and gals,
Been around for many years now but never really started a thread of my own. The reason for this thread is purely out of curiosity. I have seen threads asking about whether bros and sis here belief in true love to whether u married the person u love most. I have a theory that most of us here, are here because of sexual frustrations. Its either you are not getting any from the gf or wifes, or that it is a one way traffic thing. Or it is not as good as it used to be.

These and other sex related reasons may be the force that drives us here to FANTASY LAND aka sammyboyforum.

My confession. I am one such person. My grouse is that sex with my wife is, well, boring after the birth of our son. Married for 4 years now. Her concept is that, we are now parents, so must behave. I can't remember the last time she initiate sex anymore. Now when i ask, she will give all sorts of excuses. When she gives in, its usually because she felt obliged to service me, spread her legs and say do it quickly. No variations. straight missionary. worse still, while u are at it, she will ask, why so long, not yet finish har?

This is the same woman who loved blowjob when we first started. Now, dirty laa.... Also forbids me to go down on her... same reason, dirty laaa...

So, here i m frustrated, but thanks to sammyboy, i can relieve myself with the good stuff here.

Any bros and sis here care to support my theory or tear it down, please feel free to do so.

Bro by opening this thread u really opening my wound man pal!!!! Same situation like you. B4 married fucking good sex life. BJ, HJ, wild sex......as long we meet sure at least 1 time, go holiday 4 times a day. Now married have kid sex life from once a month to zero kosong time a month. Reasons given tired looking after baby and work. Like your case she like oblige to me. Dont enjoy doing it. Worst still i also never ask anymore fact that i know the answer is a straight big NO..... now hiaz.....want to let go is either ask Miss Righty or pay money to release...wish we can go back to the good old erotic days...make love in the shower and such.....i dont ask for more once a week 3 times month( 1 week for period):D . thats all i ask for really....

primalhunter
17-11-2006, 09:46 AM
Happy to see that bros here really have good intentions to help out fellow bro. Now, bro asdfghjk got 2 suggestions to try. good luck.

Deltaboy55
17-11-2006, 01:38 PM
Hope brothers can help me on this one:

- send nice SMS to her

She keeps her HP off unless she wants to use it. Wants to save battery.

- give her nice hugs ...and kisses without the "follow-up" hahaha

She do not like being hugged. Already like this during courtship.

- listen to her "complaisn" at work

She is the quiet type, even to me. Like to bottle everything up and one day explode.

- be more helpful around the house

I am the one doing all the housework. She comes home just to sleep.

Just passed by and I spotted your posting. Can you elaborate further on how you actually want to be helped? Looks to me that you are the one who is giving more in this relationship. Are you happy with the status quo? Cos, if you are, there is really nothing more you can possibly do short of doing even her laundry. If you are not happy, then you really have a problem on your hands trying to undo all the things you have been doing to please her.

dna_gene
17-11-2006, 02:02 PM
So one day i said to her straight, if we're not gonna fuck, then dun complain or get in the way should i go out and fuck someone else. She didn't believe me, so I did and she moved out. Now I'm living with a gal who loves sex and football.... brilliant! :D

Now this is truly what we men called... "LUCKY BASTARD!" ^_^

shaunting77
17-11-2006, 03:02 PM
threshold and limits

corsiar74
17-11-2006, 04:13 PM
well.....I will say if we everyday eating fish we will get bored also...so sometimes have to try out different meal....:D

analog539
17-11-2006, 11:48 PM
well bros...allow my 0.1 cents of inputs...

jus got engaged...wife is not reali into sex and such...n i hav strong urge...so no choice but to b a samster and seek my satisfaction...to me, love n sex is two diff thing...i mean i love her and wld nvr abandon her...the few years we've been together till now, sex is there...bout once a week, but its purely mechanical sex...she dun give bj, no painting (say dirty), doggie style (say pain) wtf!!!...but having said tat, i've communicated to her in a nice way bout my needs but it seems that its falling into deaf ears...its still once a week, but mechanical sex...till i find tat its no longer exciting to do with her cos no variety and drive...n we are not even 30 yet...how sad can tat be...:(

n yes, she did tell me that her female frds oso dont do tat often n oso nt much variety...damn those women peeps around her, tats their prob...n tats y sg is always at the bottom rung of the sex freq survey round the world...tats someting i tought is not fitting for elitist sg...where we always chiong to b the best in everyting in this planet...

but to me, tat is a separate issue...to satisfy my own needs, i have to chiong outside...as long as its no strings attached, commercial with no feelings, y not...n i still come home to my loving wife...i would like to be a ONE-GINA man...but its NOT my fault tat she doesnt match my expectations in this aspect...better if can find a FB...best if she's a married woman facing the same prob like me...how nice...sometimes, i do feel guilty of my escapades, but wat to do, i just can't control my urges...

so u see, there's many guys out there facing the prob...young or old, BGR or married...when can we eva compare ourselves with the french and italians who are so passionate about sex (or making love as it is more appropriate)???
Hmmm...tell you what Bro shaunting77.....
If I were you and I know I'm not, but if I were....
I'd walk away from your engagment...do it now. No lawyers, no kids, no complications. You're getting engaged to a chick who thinks is normal to have sex once a week when you're in your twenties? Bro, are you out of your mind? Before my wife and I got married we fucked like rabbits, contiually...every position, every style, every hole...you name it, we did it. It was WONDERFUL! Till the first baby was born, that is how life was. My sack was ALWAYS empty..in fact, she would bug me she wasn't getting enough!!! Sure, its gone down a bit, kids lah....but going down from 10 times a week to a couple of times a month is one thing, going down from once a week to what, once every 10 years?

From Start Wars, "Run Bro, Run!". Bolt while you can. I have a secret for you....all women fuck, and all love it. If your soon to be wifey doesn't love it from you...that is a warning sign.

Run while you can.

No offence intended.
Jim

dna_gene
18-11-2006, 03:05 AM
but to me, tat is a separate issue...to satisfy my own needs, i have to chiong outside...as long as its no strings attached, commercial with no feelings, y not...n i still come home to my loving wife...

Trust me, I've been there and done that! The forbidden fruit was nice and thrilling. However once you are caught, it's as good as game over. She will most probably want a divorce, alimony fee asides. Even if she's willing to forgive you, she will still haunt you forever with it and her attitude towards the marriage will take a big turn! When I say big turn, it's really a real great different.

I agree with Bro Analog, leave while you still have the chance. Sex really plays an important role in marriage, once it's gone, everything else will seem to have come to a halt too! It's just responsibility and the little love that's left lingering around the house.

whitegals
18-11-2006, 03:39 AM
omg, does she have any friends or sisters like her in singapore? :p

Oh dear bro,

I'll have to ask her, she plays for one of the gals' teams here in england. Although she was born in SG, I dun think she's got any that distant relatives still living in SG. :D

Herich
18-11-2006, 07:29 AM
Married men with wives and children are banned from this site.

This forum is for unmarried/unattached cheongsters only.

just my personal take. I agree that chionging should only be for unmarried/unattached men. We should put ourselves in the shoes of the wives/gfs, how you feel if you know your man is eating outside. if you truly love her, you would not want to hurt your wife/gf emotionally in this manner (irregardless whether she know about your eat-outs or not)

i feel that if you have tried all means to improve your sex with your wife/gf and it is still not up to your expectation (pls do not benchmark against comm'l sex experience or what you see in AV), you EITHER have to live with it (i.e without comm'l sex) if you still love your wife/gf
OR
pls leave your wife/gf before you engage in comm'l sex.

thought this is only being fair to your wife. 'Not being able to have commerical sex' is the price married man pay for a blissful marriage/family. sometimes we just cannot have the best of everything.

primalhunter
18-11-2006, 09:46 AM
Oh dear bro,

I'll have to ask her, she plays for one of the gals' teams here in england. Although she was born in SG, I dun think she's got any that distant relatives still living in SG.

I think the idea here is for all here to be your bestest buddy so that our gfs and wifes can hang out more with your gf thus get the required 'training' from your gf about the finer points of bj, hj, fj and watever j she knows of. Hopefully can brainwash them to submission:eek:

Still hoping to cum with a Man U goal!!!!:D

So how bro whitegals... when u gonna organize a gathering... cheers bro.

shaunting77
18-11-2006, 04:44 PM
wat can be bad?

jng1103
18-11-2006, 09:19 PM
i guess i love her too much till i reali can't bear to leave her...i'll just hav to continue to chiong for god knows how long...jus pray can find a discreet FB...tat wld b best

Bro Shaunting77, you are not alone, definitely...!!! Whenever we hear those "happenings" stories/encounters in sillypore, we thought how lucky those lads are, or rather, how supressed we are. Fret not, bro... sex is just part of the package for a blissful marriage.

If u see sex and love are two distinguish entities, I do not see anything ethically wrong to engage in commercial and no-string attached sex. However, speaking from experience, the real danger isnt in the sex encounters with FB or ONS, but the emotional attachment from the female counterparts. It's emotionally drained, not forgetting the financially lost either.

Been there, Done that... Still doing it *LOL*
jimbo

whitegals
18-11-2006, 10:04 PM
So how bro whitegals... when u gonna organize a gathering... cheers bro.

I can organise the gathering, but you'll have to pay for your own airfare and transport expenses from Heathrow. :D

saberman
18-11-2006, 10:58 PM
well bros...allow my 0.1 cents of inputs...

jus got engaged...wife is not reali into sex and such...n i hav strong urge...so no choice but to b a samster and seek my satisfaction...to me, love n sex is two diff thing...i mean i love her and wld nvr abandon her

Yo bro shaunting77, allow me share my two cents worth of experience.

I still remember that when i was younger and unattached, i look at bros who are attached or married with envy. I just couldn't understand why "those lucky bastards (pardon my language)" would still want to fool around outside.

Well, i have been married for seven years now, and at this pt of my life, i totally agree with u that love and sex is two difference thing. For me, sex with my wife is such an agony, that i would rather pcc myself. Can any bros imagine how it is like to have "stroke" your wife until she cum first before your little brother can enter her. And you will be lucky if her little sister open her "door" for you afterwards. When you finally got in, there is only one position permitted - missionary, and the feeling is like doing it to a dead log. Dun ever talk abt sound effect, much less multi orgasm experience. She dun bj for you, and the only hj she does (rating 2.5 out of 10) is to get your little brother to wake up to do the job.

And thats the reason why i am here - to look for some good sex. I still love my wife and will not leave her, but i need to release some pressure too right. So far, thks to the recommendation of several of our bros here, i have gone on a couple of these "paid" expeditions. I also almost ended up having an affair with a colleague of my, but lucky, i managed to pull out in time. I agreed with bro jng1103 abt the risk of emotional attachment involved. My advice is this - dun ever belief one bit if the woman tell u she knows where she stands, becos women are emotional creatures, not logical.

Recently got an angmoh expat neighbour. Wow, his girlfriend (local) really steam siah. Tall and slim, at least 1.7 something, look at least a 7.5 or 8. Definitely qualified to be a model. After reading the adventure of a couple of our bros (peterpan and cubeslover, both my heros) hotwifing adventure, start to fantasied me bonking his girlfriend while he teach my wife a trick or two, heehee. Well, just fantasysing only.

Anyway, good luck and pray that we wouldn't be caught :D

primalhunter
19-11-2006, 01:14 AM
I can organise the gathering, but you'll have to pay for your own airfare and transport expenses from Heathrow. :D

GEEZ... just realise u are writing from England... damn. I knew there couldn't be a chick that watches EPL and love to suck dicks a the same time in sillipore! :rolleyes:

steamystreamsg
19-11-2006, 02:33 AM
Bro saberman,
We share almost the same sentiments.

Herich
19-11-2006, 09:48 AM
Yo bro shaunting77, allow me share my two cents worth of experience.

I still remember that when i was younger and unattached, i look at bros who are attached or married with envy. I just couldn't understand why "those lucky bastards (pardon my language)" would still want to fool around outside.

D

That is how i feel about 'those lucky bastards' now. Maybe, I will end up being one of those 'lucky bastards' one day. But for now, I still believe in being 'faithful' to one's wife though it is easier said than done.

Mr Canon
19-11-2006, 09:58 AM
That is how i feel about 'those lucky bastards' now. Maybe, I will end up being one of those 'lucky bastards' one day. But for now, I still believe in being 'faithful' to one's wife though it is easier said than done.

How I wish I can be like you, being so faithful.

Frankiestine
19-11-2006, 11:20 AM
This is bordering on paranoia, I know, but is my flabby appearance now, the reason for her to be so put off by sex with me???

This happens to both guys and gals. Gals may find it hard to return to their size XS clothing after a baby or two. Do you think your hubby is put off by your appearance?

Bro I understand where you are coming from, when i first met my wife, i was a fitness freak pounding 5 clicks every other day and doing the gym on alternate days but then when i was diagnosed with a back injury that made it pratically impossible for me to do what i love most, i have been piling on the kilos...well nowadays she kept referring back to those days and how I look like a pig etc etc...to us guys we got our egos too..of cos likewise such comments really turns me off especially when we are in the midst of trying to make love, correction have sex, yup there is a difference, we don;t make love anymore, just fuck and forget type....honestly i get a better deal fucking a pros then my wife....

tissue
22-11-2006, 12:38 PM
This is bordering on paranoia, I know, but is my flabby appearance now, the reason for her to be so put off by sex with me???

This happens to both guys and gals. Gals may find it hard to return to their size XS clothing after a baby or two. Do you think your hubby is put off by your appearance?

Some gals here might have some input to this argument. Sigh.... I may open another bigger wound here.. but again, curiosity...:p

Hi primalhunter,

May I add my few cents worth? I'm also a lady from XS to XL after 2 kids.

My husband also put on more than 10 kg after our marriage. I guessed it because we stopped smoking together and food never tasted so much better.

Everyone who knew us from before will say that we have put on lots of weight. The reason for my weight gain is obvious, for my husband it's not very good for his health as he's not very tall and he has double chins and a big belly (he loves beer, by the way).

I had asked a few brothers around here and they have said that guys generally do not mind if their wives became fat..My husband has told me that he still love screwing me even though I'm fat..In fact, he says the feel is better during doggy as there are more meat to play with! :(

I do tease him sometimes about his additional weight and the extra chins but I never once rejected sex because of it..We, working mothers, reject sex purely because we are very tired. Nothing else.

I have HSD but I also reject him sometimes as I am really tired after a hard day's work, reached home entertained the kids blah blah blah...I always doze off on the kids bed after putting the kids to bed..He will normally wake me up and ask me to sleep on our bed..So when he sometimes initiate, I get angry because I feel that he is disturbing my beauty sleep..That's all..

A normal gal, taking all factors in consideration, will not leave or not make love to the husband because he is fat or plump or has several chins.. IMO, guys are more often the ones who finds appearances important and they prefer a tighter body for visual effects.

We aim for sex about twice a week, but most of the time, it will be done only once a week, normally weekends..

So, does that answer your question?

Cheers / Tissue

weixiang
22-11-2006, 01:41 PM
GEEZ... just realise u are writing from England... damn. I knew there couldn't be a chick that watches EPL and love to suck dicks a the same time in sillipore! :rolleyes:

hahahahahahaha...gd point bro..

weixiang
22-11-2006, 01:42 PM
Bro I understand where you are coming from, when i first met my wife, i was a fitness freak pounding 5 clicks every other day and doing the gym on alternate days but then when i was diagnosed with a back injury that made it pratically impossible for me to do what i love most, i have been piling on the kilos...well nowadays she kept referring back to those days and how I look like a pig etc etc...to us guys we got our egos too..of cos likewise such comments really turns me off especially when we are in the midst of trying to make love, correction have sex, yup there is a difference, we don;t make love anymore, just fuck and forget type....honestly i get a better deal fucking a pros then my wife....

same here bro...haves sinced stopped due to long-term injury and the muscles all have turned to fats...

abdominen is now 8 in 1 pack..
:(

Archduke
22-11-2006, 01:57 PM
It is said that when a woman marries she expects the man to change while when a man marries he expects the woman not to change. However in reality the man never changes while the woman changes for the worst.

Still always remember that it is not the physical that you marry but the person within. If the person within turns out to be too ugly... well drinking helps.

tissue
22-11-2006, 02:20 PM
It is said that when a woman marries she expects the man to change while when a man marries he expects the woman not to change. However in reality the man never changes while the woman changes for the worst.

Hi Archduke,

Have you been married long? Well, I asked because I have only been married for 3 years and everyone around me (including my husband's parents & my parents) says that he has changed..I called it revealing his true colours.. :)


Still always remember that it is not the physical that you marry but the person within. If the person within turns out to be too ugly... well drinking helps.

Well, the thrill of bonking of pretty face can only last so long...And I totally agree with you about marrying the person for their inner beauty...(which may be non existent...)

Cheers / Tissue

Archduke
22-11-2006, 03:01 PM
Been married for 15 wonderful years, with 3 lovely children. People tend to forget that it takes 2 to make a marriage work. A little give and take now and then works wonders.

Cheers

tissue
22-11-2006, 03:10 PM
Been married for 15 wonderful years, with 3 lovely children. People tend to forget that it takes 2 to make a marriage work. A little give and take now and then works wonders.

Cheers


Hi,

Bless your lovely kids..

I especially agree with your last statement...

Cheers / Tissue

primalhunter
27-11-2006, 05:11 PM
great to read your comment sis tissue. gives me a more balanced perspective on the situation.

Something happened yesterday that got me really confused... happy, but confused. after more than 2 years, my wife gave me a BJ out of the blue!!!:eek:

I won't think too much into the matter though.... gonna enjoy it while she willing... hehehe....

primalhunter
28-11-2006, 12:07 PM
double posting... deleted

primalhunter
28-11-2006, 12:10 PM
deleted double posting

ilurbu
29-11-2006, 02:59 AM
Congrats Primalhunter.

If I may remind everybody here. LOVE-MAKING will never replace common sex for it's sheer intimacy, complete and UTTER satisfaction.

LOVE-MAKING is NOT an obligation but a responsibility to upkeep a healthy and blissful marriage. It is indeed both ways if guys can put in full effort with the housework and the kids, wives should be able to tear themselves away from that nightly ritual of TV, newspaper reading, surfing, yakking with her buddies, yakking with her cousins, shopping ENOUGH for just 2 times a week???

Women, ask yourself, if you are so tired, how come you still have strength to watch TV for 2 hours with CSI, Desperate Housewives, Numbers, Gray's Anatomy, LOST, similanjiaos.. instead of finding one hour of unadulterated pleasure that WILL solve your headaches, tiredness, lethargy, depression(most women has this) with all the oxytocin and endorphins released?

Women, you're just as intellectual as us if not sometimes more, if you'd like to admit. BUT why can't you see the light that couplehood therapy IS the ultimate medicine, NOT David Letterman, George Clooney, Seinfeld or Bruckheimer. Think about it. This is not an offensive; this is pure effort in constructive suggestions.

Thank you again primalhunter, this thread is Godsend.

evo3
29-11-2006, 04:21 AM
The longer you are married the lesser love making you will have with your wife. Maybe is because the couple have too many sex before their married and once they have children the wife tender to put more attention to their kids rather than to the husband. Like me I only have sex last year less than 12 times for the whole year and for this year till now is only 6 times. Before married we always do it everyday and night at least 3 shot everytime. So is a total different game after married. Well, this is facts we have to face it. For me I will go for out source if I need to relieve myself.

ilurbu
29-11-2006, 06:39 AM
dear EVO3,

I am truly sorry for your situation and my heart pours out to those brudders with sad stories. Some are in slightly better situations while others, pure tragedy.

What I realised after 6years plus of marriage is that familiarity does breed contempt and this happens to both husband and wife. It is both parties fault for not trying hard enough to keep the fire alive. This is due to the lack of mutually enjoyable activities, sex aside. cos I realise that most hobbies if mutually enjoyed are foreplay-like; such as sports, arts appreciation, etc.. For lack of a better way to say it, we (husband & wife) do not enjoy each others company as much as before. Mutual Reactions to all our opinions on daily matters are pre-programmed from many years of conditioning(living together). This further frustrates us both parties as we no longer find each other "refreshing". This, still is not as much a fault as when both parties stop wanting to know more about each other.

Remember when you're still courting, both sides are so driven to know and understand about each other that you spend every waking moment talking, communicating and truly absorbing the essence of what each other is like?

I think certain elements of ourselves are transposed onto the other party and it does require mutual self-reflection to want to make changes for the better. I hope there are opportunities for us to convince our wives that we do need to keep the fire burning not because of merely giving a "proper" family nucleus for the children but for the original reason of falling in love. In retrospect, a proper family nucleus does call for a pair of LOVING parents and not their mere existence as this cold relationship mentality of post marriage will be inherited by our children.

Now, we do want our kids to have a happy sex and love life ahead right?

I have both a son and girl, so I am looking at both sides of the coin.

Cheers and peace people.

Archduke
29-11-2006, 09:27 AM
Hi,

Bless your lovely kids..

I especially agree with your last statement...

Cheers / Tissue

Well it was wonderful making them. Nice to meet you. Been having trouble posting here of late.

Cheers

shaunting77
29-11-2006, 09:36 AM
wat u wish wat u wish

ilurbu
29-11-2006, 11:21 AM
broshaunting : I'm just your average joe with a dick sized to hold my brain. Not too smart, I am. Carnal expeditions are a definite thrill with its variety. DUH

"how to convince her?" It's not about convincing bro. Your wife is that same princess you trophied in shining armour summers ago. In a commercial context, she's your MVC Most Valuable Client who needs you to service her account well. Understanding her needs and giving her a solution instead of selling her the most profitable (in this case your most pleasurable desires) products. In artistic terms, she's your ultimate muse asking to be glorified in your hands and not turned into a page3 smut page.

If she can't initiate any efforts, I suppose it's up to us. Afterall, women are made for men and not the other way round. It is "almost" entirely our fault if we cannot elicit a passion from them. Nostalgia is a tool too. Think out of the box.

This is a different game from the playing fields as we cannot expect the quick, dirty and instant gratification. She's not someone who'll accept $150 for a quickie. If you remember what it took to convince your wife to touch third base with you the first time, I think you'll know that we gotta take it from the top, if you know what I mean. Back to the drawing board I say, my fellow bros in sadness. Let us fight and lead our wives in awe and renewed admiration with our galantry again. We owe it to ourselves.

I was in trouble for a long time due to my temper. I was a maniac when I did not have release in more than a few days. Countless fights, broken handphones, broken doors, TV's, more handphones, chipped marble, scratched parquet, broken chairs, the list goes on.. I am truly ashamed and repentant on my wrath. There is hope still, from a book I read. Short, direct, religiously neutral (almost; ignore this part of the book), EFFECTIVE. Both parties should read too. Give her time, space and energy (I'd do the laundry so she can finish 2-3 chapters)

Anger. by Thich Nhat Hanh found in Popular bookstores. Cheaper if got member card. Also saw this in Kino. Recommended by Straits Times earlier this year too. Also rated as one of the most important books for effective anger management.

Ironically, my wife tore the book up when we had an argument saying it doesn't work. I reacted with something that will haunt me in aching regret for the rest of my life. I raised my hand on her. To this day I regret even though we made up and she's being supportive, minus the usual rantings which she had all the while. I suck monkey's ass... I suck... as a man. This I say for the first time in public.

Anyway, back to the book, I patched it back, drained it of it's wisdom and for me it works. I've changed; not because of the book but because I want to. The book was merely a catalyst at best. I understand not everyone is in good $shape to buy it but I believe libraries or an afternoon at the bookstore should give enough absorption and inspiration towards the light.

I'm not here to counsel anyone nor hijack BRO primalhunter's thread. I am grateful for this outlet for my constipated frustration. I still have my brain located on my south pole. So, there.

shaunting77
29-11-2006, 12:10 PM
twin tango

primalhunter
29-11-2006, 03:47 PM
Bro Ilurbu,
after reading your posts, i can sense that you have been thru a lot. much like many here but u are, well, more articulate in expressing ur thoughts and as such, feel the hurt even more. i cringe the thought of u hitting ur wife, and i know the regret that u must have felt, i believe even till today. i fear u will never be able to let it go... this regretable action. but alas, take this as a reason to love her more, especially for her ability to forgive you.

i on the other hand still could not understand how my dear wife can blow hot and cold within a matter of days. maybe it is by design. 2 yrs without a hint of a bj, then suddenly she felt obliged to give me one. after which, she recoiled back to her cold ways.

maybe the operative word here is obligatory. she felt obliged to service me. after all the pestering. she felt obliged to have sex with me because i m her husband and she being the tool of my release. i sense this even more now. there is no feeling in our love making anymore, just mechanics. after each session, the same question will be uttered. "chu liow mei yow?"( have you cum?) followed by the usual wiping and cleaning. then lights off. obliged to do it, part and parcel of her duty as a wife. not supposed to be enjoyed.

true, many of us man tend to forget the courting days where we increase our efforts to touch third base. i am one of which. but i have mend my ways. i have tried all things romantic. from flowers, to suggestion of holiday trip to which was always either recieved with a cold reply of, "why waste money" or "where got leave somemore?"

i thought i finally got thru to her last weekend with the unexpected bj and heavenly lovemaking like we used to have while we were courting. but, unfortunately, its back to square one.

her birthday is coming. i have certainly lost the urge to plan a surprise for her. there will be a time that i will take this as an obligation to fulfill. that will probably be the beginning of the end.

Frankiestine
29-11-2006, 04:03 PM
nowadays sex with wife is like "ai mai suat"...the most visit pros.....try to pet she find so turn off..try to raba she say feel like kena molested..:mad: so wat she want..just take off pants and fuck away? then she say not romantic...ccb woman make up your fucking mind...:mad:

ilurbu
29-11-2006, 04:28 PM
Bro primalhunter : Please don't feel discouraged. You must be wondering when are you having the next GF feeling session with your wife again? (That would be expectation from you) I was previously living with expections of this, that and then some more for a good 4-5 years. I really hope you will give your missus a birthday to remember. If she says why waste $, then do something that doesn't require money. If I may humbly suggest, even if we are on the low end of the talent gene pool, a decent dinner at a restaurant. I would have a pre-arrangement with the band for the evening to play your song. It should be a song with significance for you and her. The punchline would be YOU singing it; again, this is just a suggestion. The moral of this idea is to renew your vow of love in public, to tell her that she still lights the fire in you and that you just wish her to be happy forever, etc.. Most women would be reduced to teenage girls with public declarations.

I hope your wife falls into the majority psyche of the modern woman.

Throw those negative thoughts about "beginning of the end" out man..

Bro Frankiestine : paiseh ah, I'll be kaypoh and say this. I will experiment with kissing her every morning before work, after work, before sleep with "I love you" (important : looking contented not goofy happy) for a week, without doing ANYTHING ELSE. It won't take long before she asks you what's up. You'll just tell her you're happy and contented that you're together with her, you can always throw in optional extras like : can I help you with housework today? She might be eating out of your hand in less than a month, I hope.

Frankly, I must say I am only beginning to know what my wife wants, not what all women want, after 10 years plus of being together. This is my case-study but I do hope it's useful reference. and bro primalhunter: you're right, I can't let go yet. Forgiving oneself takes a whole lot of strength. I would sooner lose my hand than hurt her.

AAconnection
29-11-2006, 04:55 PM
she loves sex and willingly watch football with you?? there is a heaven after all!!
This is not heaven is better than heaven is l like having sex in football field if the football match is projected on a large wall. Envy sia...

bunny
30-11-2006, 04:49 PM
Dear Tissue,
Thanks for sharing a women's view. Agree with most of what u said.
As for the size ... i think ladies need to have curves.
Hahaha ... I can;t say about the doggie bit cos' only did doggie once and then never had the chance again.
For me it is not the looks but it is the whole experience ... so look sdoes not really matter to me it is whether both have the necessary "chemistry" that makes all the difference.
Hahaha love making happens only on weekends in the morning ... very rare otherwise ... and on "bad luck day ...when the red arrives at the worng time then ... too bad ... for me that is . But I have learnt to accept it.

Hi primalhunter,
May I add my few cents worth? I'm also a lady from XS to XL after 2 kids.
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I had asked a few brothers around here and they have said that guys generally do not mind if their wives became fat..My husband has told me that he still love screwing me even though I'm fat..In fact, he says the feel is better during doggy as there are more meat to play with! :(
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I have HSD but I also reject him sometimes as I am really tired after a hard day's work, reached home entertained the kids blah blah blah...I always doze off on the kids bed after putting the kids to bed..He will normally wake me up and ask me to sleep on our bed..So when he sometimes initiate, I get angry because I feel that he is disturbing my beauty sleep..That's all..
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We aim for sex about twice a week, but most of the time, it will be done only once a week, normally weekends..
Cheers / Tissue

bunny
30-11-2006, 04:51 PM
Deleted due to double posting. Apologies :-)

bunny
30-11-2006, 05:01 PM
Dear Bor Frank ... I had the same problem too last time. But it take me a long while to accept it.
Women they need to be put inthe mood. But not from teh physical sense. Must make love to their mind ... tease them in all ways but the physical way ... just give them a nice warm hug ...but no raba raba etc... it makes them suddenly why he never "attack me" hahaha... Then send a few sms once in a while tellign her u think of her ... and ask her to eat properly lah etc... At home help around the house and be thoughtful. Ocassionally buy things for her etc... to show that u think and care for her ... but all the while avoid the direct physical "attack" ... then on a nice day as you just hold her snuggly and keep her warm ... maybe just aybe she will snuggle up to you and then stroke your arm or give small gentle kisses to yr cheek or face ... then u know it is time to hit the home run ... but still approach slowly and let her tak ethe lead ...

Well ... after all that it may not ... ie. no guarantee that u will "score" hahaha ... but I can guarantee that she will begin to appreciate u more ... and u will have less fighting etc... but like another bro who shared about anger mgmt ... Must change our mindset to it. If really cannot tahan and must release then either pay and shoot or PCC self-service ... that is what I resort too lah.

Hope the sharing will be of help.
Cheers

nowadays sex with wife is like "ai mai suat"...the most visit pros.....try to pet she find so turn off..try to raba she say feel like kena molested..:mad: so wat she want..just take off pants and fuck away? then she say not romantic...ccb woman make up your fucking mind...:mad:

bunny
30-11-2006, 05:04 PM
Posting was deleted due to double posting.

ilurbu
02-12-2006, 03:56 AM
:) exactly what Bunny says. Nothing is guaranteed even if all your procedures are "correct" and optimum. After all, if love is there, there is no need for justification. No need to say what is fair or unfair. IF and only IF love is there, it really doesn't matter even if she's happier without you. So long you want her to be happy. *This is love-lorn, young and stupid mode*

Then again, if you wanna be "FAIR" to yourself, you can always have pre-nup's, contracts, etc etc.. then again what meaning would there be other than having a choice of long term sex partner?

hmm... *too much wine tonight*

steamystreamsg
03-12-2006, 08:40 AM
Is it true that most women will loose interest in sex once becoming a mother? At least, that's what I felt.

myst
05-12-2006, 04:56 PM
You are not alone pal. Not to over-generalise, I think that is normally the case given that the environment has changed with the incoming baby.

Now, I have a wife who is not interested in sex and a girl-buddy who refuses sex.

THAT, is frustrating.

Is it true that most women will loose interest in sex once becoming a mother? At least, that's what I felt.

bunny
06-12-2006, 01:47 PM
Is it true that most women will loose interest in sex once becoming a mother? At least, that's what I felt.

I think it is not so much loose interest in sex ... it is probably more things on their mind ...work, kids, home .... kids home yet, homework done ... clothes wash yet ... when to do laundry ...kids outgrow clothes yet? need to go supermarket ... what to buy etc... etc... etc...

Anyway i am a guy ... some guys are great inthat they help ...I see some also go market ...minus wife!!!

Hence since they are preoccupied with so many things ... thinking of sex is farthest from their mind ...

So if u want more sex .... help her out ... talk ... or rather listen more ...apprecaite her feelings thru yr actions (whether reciprocated or not) ... and then maybe just maybe u will get lucky .... HAHAHAHAH

I know I get luckier these days ... but then ther is no guarantee ... but the probability of sexcess ... HEHEHE is higher.

Cheers

whitegals
07-12-2006, 06:55 PM
nowadays sex with wife is like "ai mai suat"...the most visit pros.....try to pet she find so turn off..try to raba she say feel like kena molested.. so wat she want..just take off pants and fuck away? then she say not romantic...ccb woman make up your fucking mind...:mad:

Mabbe she wants to be tied up and made to crawl around.... :D

primalhunter
08-12-2006, 10:21 AM
Hey Bro Bunny,
Really appreciate your recent advise to be more understanding and tolenrent. You sound like a reasonable bloke. Good for you. I m currently trying my best to work things out with the missus. Lots of stress recently. When to see a psychiatrist. Confirm she has depression. She thinks too much about her work even after work hours. Couldn't switch off.

Have been busy doing the extras.... housework, the niceties etc etc like u recommended. Only thing is, i am stressed out too. With work, studies and finance!! The shrink infact told my wife off saying that if she dun learn to cope with stress,"your husband will jump earlier than you!"

That scared her off a bit.... she is also trying to be nice and helpful... i guess any attempt to change things need to be made by both parties. cheers.