IS it legal to bring FL to a hotel ?

[malaysiapig]

Hi bros,

We know that all kind of special service is not allow in the HC, how about bring a FL or HC girl to the hotel for action ?
What happens if the police check the hotel room and found you and yr partner naked in action ?

Please advise.
:rolleyes:

[mj_23]

well, if u know her name as in passport/id, then u can declare she is ur fren.

nothing wrong bonking a fren.

u will get a heat of trouble if u bring an underaged, illegal immigrant to hotel. ;)

[tommy4168]

is it legal to ask such an obvious question ?

[qqueenn]

but mostly ppl are discreet so there isnt any problem right?

[allandse]

Hi bro,

wat happens in the hotel rooms is considered private and between consenting adults. The police would never open up the hotel room or force you to open unless u or ur partner is on the other side of the law one way or another. And you really should be unaware of ur partner's crime. If your partner had done something or is an overstayer in singapore, nothing serious or threatening will happen to you. But there will be the normal hassle of questioning and embarassement of being seen with a FL in a hotel...dont worry...u will not make it to the papers...

[Booker]

Bro... I beg to defer...
Had the opportunity to catch up with a man in blue friend. What I understand is that the mata are also raiding hotels. Especially those hourly rated one, they will separate the guy and gal to question separately. 90% of the time, the guy will admit the gal is FL, so as not to get into trouble themselves.

Perhaps other more senior bros can clarify.... Seems like there is no safe place afterall.


:D

[hang37]

Hi bro,

wat happens in the hotel rooms is considered private and between consenting adults. The police would never open up the hotel room or force you to open unless u or ur partner is on the other side of the law one way or another. And you really should be unaware of ur partner's crime. If your partner had done something or is an overstayer in singapore, nothing serious or threatening will happen to you. But there will be the normal hassle of questioning and embarassement of being seen with a FL in a hotel...dont worry...u will not make it to the papers...

wrong bro.. AV have the right to go and search the room.. they are doing it every now and then... and if you are married and the gal is a PRC or other nationality, they will ask u go back drink kopi and "force" you to admit that you pay for her service. alot married guy caught will juz admit to avoid trouble, as AV will "threaten" to call your wife to ask her to bail you out...

so pls be careful...

army teach us can do anything but dun get caught right...so if kenna caught be prepare lor...

[hang37]

Bro... I beg to defer...
Had the opportunity to catch up with a man in blue friend. What I understand is that the mata are also raiding hotels. Especially those hourly rated one, they will separate the guy and gal to question separately. 90% of the time, the guy will admit the gal is FL, so as not to get into trouble themselves.

Perhaps other more senior bros can clarify.... Seems like there is no safe place afterall.


:D

totally agreed

[Nelly]

well, if u know her name as in passport/id, then u can declare she is ur fren.

nothing wrong bonking a fren.

u will get a heat of trouble if u bring an underaged, illegal immigrant to hotel. ;)

Agree with u.

[siberian]

is that mean we have to check their IC / passport beforre bonking to ensure our own safety???

[Vectra]

If you keep thinking "If, if, if..." it's get harder for things to be done. :cool: Something you gotta take the bold step forward...

[conjurer]

is that mean we have to check their IC / passport beforre bonking to ensure our own safety???

As far as i know, even if you are caught and you claim that she is your friend, knowing their name is not enough. Be prepared for further questioning as in how you get to know her, how long have you known her, where she stay, etc etc...

There is a risk involved if she is a fl and you try to "cover up" for her.

[ciscocalifornia]

I don't get it. Isn't prostitution legal in sigapore? I thhink the answer is yes. Is it John's responsibility to check papers of the girls he calls into his hotel room? I don't think so....

I visit sigapore quite often and mostly use the escort agencies under Delightcity.com - The Source For Reliable Escort Agencies In Singapore (http://www.delightcity.com), I think they'r licensed, but whenever I got girls in my hotel room though them I never bothered to check their license. Now sometime back I came to know about this site and realy understood the difference between FL and licenced. So even if you call an OKT who has advertised himself somewhere in the internet...how on earth, you as John suppose to know if he is legal or illegal if you are just visiting Singapore for few days and you don't know the singapore law that well...I don;t think they should expect tourists to know singapore law. All we know here is bonking = singapore= legal = no hasle.

[ciscocalifornia]

Bro... I beg to defer...
Had the opportunity to catch up with a man in blue friend. What I understand is that the mata are also raiding hotels. Especially those hourly rated one, they will separate the guy and gal to question separately. 90% of the time, the guy will admit the gal is FL, so as not to get into trouble themselves.

Perhaps other more senior bros can clarify.... Seems like there is no safe place afterall.


:D

How about the 5 star hotels i.e. Hilton, Hyatt, Marriot etc. Did you guys ever hear something like that happen there too...Jezz, need to be carefull next time around. I know my friends when they are in singapore they get girls to their room from orchard tower all the time, aren;t they considered FL?

[ciscocalifornia]

wrong bro.. AV have the right to go and search the room.. they are doing it every now and then... and if you are married and the gal is a PRC or other nationality, they will ask u go back drink kopi and "force" you to admit that you pay for her service. alot married guy caught will juz admit to avoid trouble, as AV will "threaten" to call your wife to ask her to bail you out...

so pls be careful...

army teach us can do anything but dun get caught right...so if kenna caught be prepare lor...

Dude, this thead just shattered all my fantasy. I was hell bent to get in touch with some folks I found here and arranged for few nice EURO chicks in my hotel room at the Ritz for next week. But I guess I need to be safe uhh....I don't want singapore police to call my wife and ask her to fly down there......I think I will just stick with the escort agencies.

[Free2cheong]

Hi bros,

What happens if the police check the hotel room and found you and yr partner naked in action ?

Please advise.
:rolleyes:

Most likely the police will get a hard-on a join you in action. :rolleyes:

[malaysiapig]

Thanks all bros respone for the yes and no.
So what is the advise for a safe and cheap way to bonk a FL ?
Considering I have divorced and need to release from time to time.
Geylang is bit expensive at this difficulity period.
Is thare any local divorce lady or MILF look for short time affair to recomend ?

thanks

Wish all have a wonderful season holiday

cheer ..... :)

[XX26]

When we admit that she is a FL, we will have less trouble and we do not need to be bail out?

What kind of consequence if we admit that she is a FL?

What is the best to do? to admit or to denied?

Any bro can share?

[sleaguepunter]

Dude, this thead just shattered all my fantasy. I was hell bent to get in touch with some folks I found here and arranged for few nice EURO chicks in my hotel room at the Ritz for next week. But I guess I need to be safe uhh....I don't want singapore police to call my wife and ask her to fly down there......I think I will just stick with the escort agencies.

dude, if u are staying at Ritz, u will be safe. The only ppl will knock onto your room door will have to from the hotel management.

What the TS meant are those hourly charged hotel, ie hotel81 or the fragrance group of hotel.

[EatNDrink]

Bro, u asked stupid qns leh ... if not legal to bring FL to hotel? then bring where? toilet? car park? or home? wow lao ... dont u notice that there are more and more budget hotel in sg, that is what it is for.

[surfcell]

Thanks all bros respone for the yes and no.
So what is the advise for a safe and cheap way to bonk a FL ?
Considering I have divorced and need to release from time to time.
Geylang is bit expensive at this difficulity period.
Is thare any local divorce lady or MILF look for short time affair to recomend ?

thanks

Wish all have a wonderful season holiday

cheer ..... :)

Bro Malaysiapig,

I think the cheapest is to bring the FL to a nearest MSCP and the most economical way to release is PCC if not Desker Road.

Cheers!:)

[dmtpl]

I think the bro's need to becareful if your FL is a druggie.
or ex ofender. Than you will definately kana screen, mabe kana pull in.

Otherwise if Anti Vice acting on complaint maybe you kana question.
Worst if newspaper follow up or have potographer wz them.
In that case.....

Gad Bless You !

[slinger99]

maybe all those a such a worries for u(TS) to bonk a foreigner in e hotels... maybe u can look for locals.... i think tat will reduce or eliminte all worries u had ya.... Cheers

[slider_72]

I think your question has been asked many times in the past and there are probably a number of threads on the same issue.

Lets be clear on this, prostitution is not illegal in Singapore; soliciting in public and living off a woman's immoral earnings are.

If a hooker is on the streets soliciting for business, that is illegal. The act of providing sex for money is not illegal. The pimp arranging the prostitute for you and getting a cut of her earning is committing an offence. Engaging the services of a prostitute is not a criminal offence. My only caution here is that the prostitute must be above 18 years old as it is now an offence to engage the services of a prostitute who is below 18 years of age.

Harbouring an illegal immigrant or over-stayer is an offence. Bringing an over-stayer or illegal immigrant to a hotel is not an offence. It is unlikely that you would be regarded as harbouring an illegal immigrant if she is in your room for only a couple of hours. If you bring the prostitute for an over-nighter, it is also unlikely that you would be regarded as harbouring an illegal immigrant, although there is no clear cut rule on this. Chances are, if she is a prostitute staying over in your room for just one night, you are unlikely to be regarded as "harbouring" that person.

If you are in the room doing the do and happened to end up in the middle of an AV raid, just be calm, provide your NRIC/Passport to the kind officer in blue and explain politely that you engaged the services of the lovely lady to attend to your manly needs. No need to provide a detailed FR to the kind officer in blue, just tell him where you picked up the girl and how much was the agreed price. Be nice, polite and cooperative. Chances are they will be nice and polite to you too if you show your willingness to assist the Home Team.

Your particulars will probably be recorded somewhere as you may be asked to be a witness if any criminal charges are pressed against the girl but hey, that is by far better than spending 48 hours in a police station and explaining your disappearance to your wifey two days later.

[sscelenw4]

if u got caught, just say u r having a ONS with the gal...

is it inllegal to have a ONS?

[sscelenw4]

just say ONS

is it illegal to have ONS?

[TaurusGuy]

Thumbs up to bro slider_72. Very detailed and clear explanations. You must be a lawyer , right ?

[ciscocalifornia]

Check this out friends, a graduate Lawyer offering FL services...uhh. what can be safer than that?? she can teach all the law while in bed with me plus beat the crap out of the cop too:) Dude she is a lawyer!! I would love to call her to my hotel room if any of the friends here give me her contact. Any bro here willing to share contacts of nice girls with me please feel free to PM me....myself an Indian American( need to say that, some girls prefer only chinese, as I read here)

http://www.sammyboyforum.com/welcome-fl-dome-2-free-stds-included/100177-s-60-bonk-newly-arrived-model-sexy-figure-prc-graduated-lawyer-pics.html

[block11]

ahhh.... there is also a sticky related to this: http://www.sammyboyforum.com/welcome-fl-dome-free-stds-included/41631-all-you-need-know-about-offences-relating-prostitution-under-sg-law.html :D

[LifeLife]

Your particulars will probably be recorded somewhere as you may be asked to be a witness if any criminal charges are pressed against the girl but hey, that is by far better than spending 48 hours in a police station and explaining your disappearance to your wifey two days later.

Clear and truthful write out, Thanks bro Silder. Normally 81 are quite safe, believe that the AV also won't any how raid the hotel, somemore, there are some many rooms, hopefully not to be so unlucky, kena check lor:p

[repsolman]

Clear and truthful write out, Thanks bro Silder. Normally 81 are quite safe, believe that the AV also won't any how raid the hotel, somemore, there are some many rooms, hopefully not to be so unlucky, kena check lor:p

A girl I know got caught in 81. If suay, even road block also can get caught - but that's for overstayers etc. :(

[twinseeker]

The law has black & white, but there's also a very big grey area.

Society today is very open minded. Go clubbing/ partying, meet a new found lady friend, go for one night stand. Some people have FB, meet up for quickie to cure the human urge. They can't go round pointing finger at any girl to say she's the prostitute? Conversely, why can't they point the finger to say the man is the gigolo?

Cash found in her handbag or your wallet also not 100% evidence to say you both had transaction. Tourist visit sg have $ to spend, man living here has $ to spend too. Both found to have condoms is not illegal, as both are taking precaution against disease or unplanned pregnancy.

Just because both check-in to cheap quickie hotel (1hr, 2hr, whole night), also not wrong, both consenting adults are settling their human urge. It's a personal & private matter between the 2 persons.

Only possible 2 outcomes when raided:

Easy way out (c/w hidden implications) Deny knowing the girl, acknowledge it's a transaction.
Your particulars taken down & will be called as witness to testify, when authority press charges on the girl.
Acknowledge you know the girl- genuine claim.
Able to provide her personal particulars & provide details accurately
(But if the authorities wanna cause inconvenience & detain is still possible - bona fidé)

[sherrry]

The law has black & white, but there's also a very big grey area...... Only possible 2 outcomes when raided:

Easy way out (c/w hidden implications) Deny knowing the girl, acknowledge it's a transaction.
Your particulars taken down & will be called as witness to testify, when authority press charges on the girl.
Acknowledge you know the girl- genuine claim.
Able to provide her personal particulars & provide details accurately
(But if the authorities wanna cause inconvenience & detain is still possible - bona fidé)
Just to further illustrate on the implications for both outcomes.

Acknowledging it was a transaction:
The girl gets her 1way ticket to the locker. But the man doesn't walk free, he's required to assist & provide testimony in statement so the authorities can compile evidence to press charges. (So, it is possibly for a 48hr coffee buffet session, courtesy of the boys in blue, and repeat coffee sessions when required)

Denying it was a transaction, and both know each other's details:
They can still play punk & they have rights to detain her on grounds of suspicion. They will interrogate & scrutinize every page of passport, demand details for frequency of visits, lodging details, guarantor/sponsor for visit (if any) etc. (It is also possibly for a 48hr coffee buffet, courtesy of the boys in blue, and repeat coffee sessions when required)

It is also opportunity for them to compound and make her release possible only by bail via court ruling. For which, if you are willing shall have to cough the sum out. Until investigations complete, acquitted from charges, you may get your bail$ back.

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QNs to prove beyond reasonable doubt:
If both are decent beings & credible characters......

Why use a hotel in the notorious vice district?
Why not in the privacy of own residence?
Either or both persons in an adulterting affair?
How long has the relationship/affair been ongoing?

etc.

Lots of dirty linen will be aired in court

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They're licensed gangsters, because they're warranted the power, and the power is there at their expense to exercise in good or exploit in bad faith. All of which, they hold no responsibility for any inconvenience, time & costs lost, throughout the entire duration of the legal process from date of arrest till release.

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Civil suit can only take place if mistreatment & abuse was rendered to the victim while in their custody (Abusing officer must/need to be identified). And if without a witness, holds no weight even against feather (unless medically assessable). So, it is recommended to pay the doctor a visit upon release - as proof of any possible physical assault/abuse. As for Verbal assault/abuse, your words against their's.

[twinseeker]

Thanks bro Sherrry for the info.

Basically, 2 consenting adults engaging in private activity within confines of any premise, regardless of residence or hotel room is not a crime.

Use of budget hotels for convenience is not wrong, they are readily available to any walk-in without prior reservations.

To use or not to use personal residence for such engagements is discretional.

Adultering engagement is private & personal between the 2 consenting adults, boys in blue have no right to interfere. Duration of affair is nothing of concern for the boys in blue.

[Frankiestine]

Hi bro,

wat happens in the hotel rooms is considered private and between consenting adults. The police would never open up the hotel room or force you to open unless u or ur partner is on the other side of the law one way or another. And you really should be unaware of ur partner's crime. If your partner had done something or is an overstayer in singapore, nothing serious or threatening will happen to you. But there will be the normal hassle of questioning and embarassement of being seen with a FL in a hotel...dont worry...u will not make it to the papers...

bro i thought some cheonster complained that those dogs raid love hotels too..

[Frankiestine]

. alot married guy caught will juz admit to avoid trouble, as AV will "threaten" to call your wife to ask her to bail you out...

so pls be careful....

this is the part i dun understand....why the need to bail oneself if you are not charged with anything...and furthermore it is up to you to decide who to call not those dogs to tell you who to call..

[Frankiestine]

How about the 5 star hotels i.e. Hilton, Hyatt, Marriot etc. Did you guys ever hear something like that happen there too...Jezz, need to be carefull next time around. I know my friends when they are in singapore they get girls to their room from orchard tower all the time, aren;t they considered FL?

dun worry they won't touch these 5 stars hotels....they cannot afford to offend the guests...

[slider_72]

The law has black & white, but there's also a very big grey area.

Not exactly. Some things are quite clear. For instance, it is not a criminal offence for a man to pay a woman for sexual services rendered (provided she is above 18 years old). Doing it in a transit hotel instead of a legal brothel in Geylang does not make it an offence.

If the man did not commit any criminal offence, and no charges are pressed against the man, there is no need for him to be bailed out from the police station. The police has the power to detain a person for up to 48 hours without charging him if he is suspected of having committed a criminal offence. If the man is just a mere customer, is cooperative with the boys in blue during the raid, there is really no reason why the boys in blue would even want to keep him in the police station for long.

Why go through the hassle of pretending that the girl is your FB or denying that it was a pure commercial transaction?

[suteerak1099]

The law has black & white, but there's also a very big grey area (http://www.sammyboyforum.com/3323551-post32.html).

Not exactly. Some things are quite clear. For instance, it is not a criminal offence for a man to pay a woman for sexual services rendered (provided she is above 18 years old). Doing it in a transit hotel instead of a legal brothel in Geylang does not make it an offence.

If the man did not commit any criminal offence, and no charges are pressed against the man, there is no need for him to be bailed out from the police station. The police has the power to detain a person for up to 48 hours without charging him if he is suspected of having committed a criminal offence. If the man is just a mere customer, is cooperative with the boys in blue during the raid, there is really no reason why the boys in blue would even want to keep him in the police station for long.

Why go through the hassle of pretending that the girl is your FB or denying that it was a pure commercial transaction? bro slider, i think u misunderstood twinseeker. the 1 getting detained is the lady, and he was just giving possible scenarios for the 2 outcomes.

so the question then is whether the woman in engagement is factually somebody the patron knows or picked off the street. if it's a stranger off the street, then the answer is obvious.

while if the lady is a FB (local/foreign), then the dilema sets in - for there'd be traces of communication on the phone leading back to the man.

[Mighty Minds]

No. The law never state cannot bring FL to a hotel.

[tenggiri]

Basically, prostitution is not illegal in Spore so, i think it is not an offence to be found in a room with a FL. Correct me if i am wrong bros, cheers.

[tchinkoo]

Basically, prostitution is not illegal in Spore so, i think it is not an offence to be found in a room with a FL. Correct me if i am wrong bros, cheers.[/QUOTE]

i agree with u

i think it's just that they are not suppose to be working if they are on social visit orstudent pass

so u are the witness if they 1 2 charged her in court

but i hope they will not go to the extend until call ur spouse

cause somtimes it might cause a family to break up

very cruel!!!

[Booker]

I guess like what Bro tchinkoo mentioned, the problem is those that the AV are targeting, are those on social visit pass ladies that work as FL. Which I believe according to the law is illegal.
Thus the raid on hotels to 'weed' out such ladies. Since those FL are not considered to be prostitute. And by engaging in paid sexual transaction, they had breech the law already.



:D

[fee3fow]

Ya agreed with Bro Booker if i remember correctly prostitution is legal in Spore but girls who are on social pass here and offer sex services are not. So you are are caught in the hotel room with a FL on social pass (doesn't matter if she overstay anot) i think you also may have breach the law